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phf: asciilifeform: i have this in my erc http://paste.lisp.org/display/324144 erc-lurker-state is internal hash that erc maintains on its own of people who have talked in the last 24h by default, people not in that list are considered lurkers. you can use erc-lurker-hide-list to hide certain messages from lurkers in my case JOIN/PART/QUIT, the extra erc-display-message advice is to send those message to server buffer instead of totally
asciilifeform: trinque: more importantly, a precise description of why 'i stored x, y, z, and binary is now B ~BECAUSE~...' would be book-length.
phf: as my unix teacher used to say "i had this idea, i read it in ..."
phf: i had some mild success with a script around gpg where on each run it would create a db in tmp/, import all keys from ~/wot ~/systemkeys ~/randomkeys etc., then run the op against that tmp db, and finally remove the db
shinohai: I came mircea_popescu !
asciilifeform: incidentally i dun recall gpg2 having own keyring format.
phf: which actually makes no sense, since gnupg 1.4 is designed explecitly for use in the kind of situations debian is using it. i.e. low level infrastructural verification
mircea_popescu: (ie, "should i get out of here, i'll monk a few people myself!")
mircea_popescu: but i'll give you a sole example :
asciilifeform: historically i have a reasonably detailed picture.
mircea_popescu: it's altogether not clear, for a very basic instance, that "voluntary" is contemplated to mean anything other than "i didn't give my permission for this".
mircea_popescu: but if i start walking around the beatitudes a l'abbe de notre dame de courants d'air, i'll let you know.
asciilifeform: i will have to introduce an americanism,
asciilifeform: not going from the declared 'i am'-s, but from the record of soulless life.
mircea_popescu: "this is a nail" "this is what i deem a nail"
asciilifeform: it is, (and i think the correct engl. criminalistic term) 'a domestic'.
diana_coman: what I mean is that they will inevitably take on something that is bound to end quite badly for themselves first of all
diana_coman: as I said: "could have been done" has nothing to do with putting away the pistol/guns and all to do with finding the right place for the guy, be that 10m in the ground, "jar" or whatever else
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: I must admit. Your Twitter polls actually make a person think before answering...
asciilifeform: when he understands (and , no - i did not have a debugger attached to his head, can only infer from the manifesto, that he ~understood~) that 'it is time'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, i suspect that is necessary stage in english evolution towards chinese.
diana_coman: I was only briefly in Boston some ..hmmm, 6-7 years ago
asciilifeform: for all i know, the dead were all expert acrobats.
diana_coman: I would however put forward the fact that a 2 year old is perfectly capable of shooting someone with a pistol
diana_coman: I suspect that is what asciilifeform prefers to consider
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I meant it as broken human, not broken american
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i disagree that rodger is a notably broken example of an american.
diana_coman: the only difference that I see and I was putting on the shoulders of culture is that at that time this kind of broken was acknowledged for what it was and used accordingly
mircea_popescu: i suppose the "problem" at the time was ~nobody was taking russians, soviets or stalin seriously.
asciilifeform: partizan comes out of the forest. says to farmer, 'we need flour and milk.' farmer: 'germany gave me my land. go off to the forest before i pump you full of buckshot.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well yes, because you're politically engaged. i'm sure the nazi "victims" of special forward batallion inspired a lot more revulsion in liberated population than the perpetrators.
asciilifeform: i said 'ought to have gone to the trench.'
asciilifeform: but note, i did not say he ought to have been in the trench 'to turn into a Real Man'
mircea_popescu: is what i meant.
asciilifeform: half of europe remembers it, i suspect, to this day.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i don't buy nero-the-historical-character either ; but my point is that the description of him from ancient sources hostile is mendacious in a certain way, which certain way supports my view in that it makes it plain the ancients were aware of the type.
diana_coman: dunno if I really buy Nero being the same kind of broken; might need to brush up on it in this light at least out of curiosity
mircea_popescu: i also seem to recall a dude that burned some building in athens.
mircea_popescu: i seem to recall a dude who set rome on fire.
diana_coman: the way I read asciilifeform's point of bringing culture in was that it's culture responsible for the outcome of there being a broken kid; not for the fact he was broken, not for the fact he existed in the first place; simply and strictly for he's specific end
mircea_popescu: i'm not even asking for the mother.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i wish to meet the father that actually does this. ☟︎
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I did NOT say to teach him anything; precisely my point: nothing to do to make him something else than he was (or rather: wasn't); what I meant by plenty to do starts with NOT pretending he is a fine child like all the rest, let's get him to college, give him a car etc
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I'm not sure I got that
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, that may be, although I suspect it's not true per se: sure, nothing could have been done to make him something else than he was; plenty could have been done to allow him to die happy for instance instead of giving him that responsibility too; moreover there was plenty to be done to help everyone else basically; what asciilifeform says
asciilifeform: (i personally could have greatly benefited from trench warfare! in the everettian sense.)
mircea_popescu: though in fairness i must say, nothing anyone did or didn't do could have helped this kid. he is the definitionally patibulaire
diana_coman: asciilifeform, but keeping them alive is one thing, at the end of the day I can keep whatever I want alive in a jar on my windowsill
PeterL: I thought somebody here suggested "The White Guard" by Mikhail Bulgakov, but I can't find it in logs now. Anyway, I recently finished it, was pretty good book.
diana_coman: but myeah, I guess that article makes sense
diana_coman: the last part I suspect is just that they don't meaningfully talk or actually interact with anybody simply
diana_coman: something like that; I find it more damning though that apparently nobody around him either noticed anything of the kind or otherwise take any meaningful action on it
diana_coman: for some reason the whole thing did trigger one old memory of a classmate in the 4th grade who shouted through tears: WHY do they all go to congratulate you for winning instead of consoling me for losing; having also observed quite a lot of small children recently, I would be inclined to think this guy was just stuck somewhere around a *very* little age and that is that
asciilifeform: '“I don’t think I would have made it without any support,” she said, fighting through the tears.'
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i'm about 32/108 done, fancy that.
diana_coman: I suppose I don't have the same amount of patience with spiders; and certainly no qualms killing them if they don't get out of the way; I read about half the first part and then really skipped through it and still felt that I lost too much of my time on it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect it's very convenient muppet. has entirely nothing to do with anything of political interest, or for that matter this world.
t2yax: i got openal32.dll eror
t2yax: when i look at bat file
t2yax: i got
t2yax: now i have Yeni Metin Belgesi.txt.out
t2yax: i did it
t2yax: i will save that as text file
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 11:37 Framedragger: (i was originally planning to do some analysis myself sooner than later, but ended up enjoying summer too much)
t2yax: so what should i do ?
t2yax: and also i wanna change my irc password
thestringpuller: shinohai: eventually when you can use eulora to purchase soma, the cypherpunk n00bs will flow in SnowCrash style. Or I guess Ready Player One?!?
shinohai: I'm pretty impressed someone made it this far, so far my replies have required lots of crayons.
shinohai: I had to instruct him on how to submit key to public keyserver
asciilifeform: ;;later tell Framedragger the banners really oughta have been in the userstrings. but if you dig'em up, i will retro-add them.
thestringpuller: not that I mind, but hey the big blockers told me i can synch easy on current tech!!!!1111
thestringpuller: i didn't think i needed a "production" set up to run a bitcoin node
thestringpuller: guess I'm synching on my colo-box >:(
Framedragger: (i was originally planning to do some analysis myself sooner than later, but ended up enjoying summer too much) ☟︎
Framedragger: asciilifeform: btw i have all the version banners (for all the hosts in the ssh keyset) stored, probably a good idea to make that available i guess?
trinque: http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-one/#selection-239.0-239.174 << god what a riot; I'm dying
mod6: One of these times, I've got to circle back around and re-read the older ones. So many gems.
mod6: i really enjoy the trips-down-trilema-lane with links like this: http://trilema.com/2012/the-imbecilitarians/ , stuff that I haven't probably read in ~4 years.
mircea_popescu: nfi who the fuck even buys that sort of thing ; half the names i never heard of befoar.
trinque: I'm curious what drug that might've been
asciilifeform: i saw ~0 in chicago, but admittedly i was not searching for'em
trinque: and a smattering of american fast food. I was surprised how much.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 02:43 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> nearest, i think, would be BingoBoingo . << But apparently you have odd impressions of middle west. Love Chicago, the worst Middle West has to offer and refuse to give rest of it the time of day.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-24#1528272 << i like 1890s buildings. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i can hardly wait for the hanno boeck post.
asciilifeform: ... debian? ( though if i had to guess, i'd guess these were nailed by something else )
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> nearest, i think, would be BingoBoingo . << But apparently you have odd impressions of middle west. Love Chicago, the worst Middle West has to offer and refuse to give rest of it the time of day. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phuctor is as it is so that i could do this, since day1
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuXxIrarHEc << did i link this before ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 01:43 mircea_popescu: so anyone recall the spot in the logs many years ago where i explained to iirc trinque that the great sex mutation was most likely driven by the introduction of speech ?
mircea_popescu: i meant "female logic" in the sense of "how does she magically wiff out the loser".
mircea_popescu: the only magic trick in all this is, how is speaker viewing self. if speaker has already decided is not exceptional ; then argument "shorty was exceptional - i'm not" can be brought ; but obviously the heuristic indicates the problem's somewhere else ; if however speaker hasn't made such decision, then the argument can't be logically brought. and we know whether speaker has or hasn't made such a decision by whether he brings
mircea_popescu: i won't consider short chicks ; at least in theory (though say chet was a shorty).
mircea_popescu: i do not.
asciilifeform: what means 'best caporegime i ever had'
mircea_popescu: cuz like this : what's incidence of dude being under 5 feet ? then how come like the best caporegime i ever had was like 4 9 ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: now i gotta ask, how ??
mircea_popescu: btw, it's entirely self-justificatory nonsense. i have personally verified short stature does not per se negatively impact the shorty's prospects.
phf: what i don't understand is where all the "cool kids" are during summer break? why not go play with them then so you don't have to catch up every time?
mircea_popescu: i guess it'll be a forever lost arcana reference.