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mircea_popescu: separate issues. on one hand java, on the other tor.
Kleeck_: But for real. You can have some goddamn secure OS run TOR and e-mail the shit out of some Govs.
optimator: or what the weak link is....
optimator: Kleeck_: everything is as strong as it's weakest link - not everyone realizes that
Kleeck_: The issue wasn't TOR, it was Java.
mircea_popescu: Kleeck_ you must have missed the memo on that.
optimator: off the back - then :)
Kleeck_: Linux + TORMAIL = FREEEEEEEDOM!
Kleeck_: Why is he NOT on TOR?
optimator: "I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States."
Kleeck_: Gah. That guy is a lousy sock puppet! (<3 TAT)
mircea_popescu: he's on the board and running some investor polling questions thing
mircea_popescu: Kleeck_ the best you can come to that i guess would be people like ThickAsThieves
mircea_popescu: why ty.
Hollywood: no, really I do think so. You have a way with words, it is a talent
Kleeck_: I just want to talk about this price dip with some jabrones.
Hollywood: mircea is by far the best writer I have ever read.
mircea_popescu: not as remarkable if you think i've been at it for years.
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mircea_popescu: ;;google bitcoin drama timeline
mircea_popescu: dexX7 you should sometime read through the scamlist.
kakobrekla: dunno, i see italy in the documents
mircea_popescu: wait, the alberto dude is involved ?!
kakobrekla: maybe labcoin is a way for alberto to pay up for BDT
ozbot: Greek Villagers Chase Tax Collectors Out Of Town | Zero Hedge
kakobrekla: "this guy knows how to make pdfs, for sure he is capable of making asic"
mircea_popescu: people need to learn to use open and accessible formats not fucking pds and google docs.
mircea_popescu: some guy was here dropping that link. i never read it.
dexX7: so far my "research" showed that almost everything is made up
dexX7: dvdr created this doc earlier this day
dexX7: sam noi is one of the labcoin guys
mircea_popescu: uh. who are either of those ?
dexX7: is there any reason to believe that samuel noi is user delaria of bitcointalk?
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thestringpuller: ;;google get up there you big metal bird
VanCleef_: heh now you awoke the beast
optimator: i think @assbot is it - good luck with him - he's been a bitch
mircea_popescu: usually people who get called out for lieing tend to take a little time off.
optimator: fuck i'm gonna bet that it's good news
optimator: ok i'll google that
optimator: crazy... scammers and the elite recognize the change that is forced upon the world, everyone else suffers in ostrich silence.
mircea_popescu: it's pretty good documentation of what a totalitarian regime looks like early on.
mircea_popescu: anyway, read up on the magnificent hedges vs obama case,
mircea_popescu: a, don't get me wrong, i don't really want them to anything in particular. not really my business.
optimator: but people change in december. you & i would have liked them to change in april... but it takes until december
mircea_popescu: basically the current administration is no different from trendon shavers
gribble: userioao was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 12 hours, 45 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <userioao> Can anyone recommend a side to buy prepaid virtual CC via bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: optimator problem is by the time they see it the culprits will have long left the room.
optimator: eventually they see what we see today
optimator: sure - the price of progress - time. The sheer size of the populace trumps the technocrats ideology
mircea_popescu: i think the populace first spends a decade or two without power or groceries.
optimator: "hardly alive" - but it does embolden the populace. And the populace will be the ones who challenge the status quo... after they've seen the lions in the arena waiting to eat them
mircea_popescu: as it was already the case once or twice last year, once before that and a couple of times this year already.
mircea_popescu: should the supreme court affirm... they just ignore it.
mircea_popescu: hardly alive. the us government is by now out of control, entirely. if a district judge orders something they just appeal it. if the appelate court concurs they appeal again.
optimator: mircea_popescu: "if i had a penny for every district judge" - I love that part. I love that some judges just thumb their noses at the federal government. States rights seem to be alive...
optimator: if only we knew who the pass throughs were
optimator: Hollywood: yeah. was that the delta number? 135K of transactions to pass throughs they can't figure out?
mircea_popescu: dexX7 if i had a penny for every district judge that ruled obamacare unconstitutional...
Hollywood: the most interesting pary was 1. they have 135,000 lost and cant find cloud 2. pirate like rub and tugs
mircea_popescu: optimator wouldn't have been the first time.
optimator: hummm.. interesting thought - I certainly wouldn't discount it
mircea_popescu: or ta's to teachers.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 magistrate judges stand to district judges roughly in the relationship paralegals stand to lawyers.
mircea_popescu: the sec working with some random malfeasant to establish imaginary authorities over stuff
mircea_popescu: optimator i half suspect the whole thing is a staged operation.
optimator: i think I would have asked for a ruling... unless I'd blown all my btc on day spas...
dexX7: but is this new? i assumed that the fincen guidelines already implied something similar
dexX7: so this might be used as reference for upcoming cases, but a magistrate judge's word doesn't have the same weight (obviously) as a surpreme court ruling
mircea_popescu: anyway, the matter was fundamentally arbitration, handled by a magistrate judge by apparent consent of the parties.
optimator: dexX7: in TX, yes for that federal district. But, we must either a) wait for other districts to rule the same; or b) wait for SCOTUS to rule the same
mircea_popescu: dexX7 it will certainly be presented as such by teh us government.
dexX7: does the fact that the judge used "btc = money" in the pirateat40 case this statement applicable in general/law?
mircea_popescu: ate civil cases in the same manner as a district judge, including presiding over jury or non-jury trials."
mircea_popescu: "In civil proceedings, magistrate judges typically manage discovery and other pretrial matters. They are authorized to issue orders in pretrial matters as long as the order is not dispositive of the case as a whole (such as an order granting summary judgment). They may also be assigned to write reports and recommendations to the district judge as to dispositive matters. With the consent of the parties, they may adjudic
VanCleef_: heh, guess dont have to take this news too seriously?
mircea_popescu: VanCleef_ oppinions of random magistrate judge in texas' poorest district be about as relevant as pirates'
VanCleef_: so we have to obey
VanCleef_: but american gov sets the rules for bitcoin these days
afrotec: fuck the gov
optimator: that is, people weren't calculating when the diff change happened, iirc also
optimator: i think where the diff change occurred tripped that bet up
optimator: mircea_popescu: well that's a 12% increase over the next 3 diff changes to make that bet true
ozbot: BitBet - BTC network difficulty tops 52 million by end of August
mircea_popescu: lmao look at that curve.
optimator: but, the market depth just depresses me
optimator: hard not to make a big asicminer bet - pins & needles
mircea_popescu: too lazy to afk mine
mircea_popescu: well seeing how the market and skilling work on their own i'd say i play about 24/7
mircea_popescu: So, you want to start an IPO. Unfortunately, you've had problems/are having problems/are worried about having problems with trust & getting funding. Sound like you? Then this post should help.
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | None based on data since last change | 51505423.6791 based on data for last three days
arij: did they release there new boards yet?
weex: the dividends are pretty good still though
weex: i think people are just not paying attention to mining stocks
mircea_popescu: most people want to buy medical insurance after they're wel lsick.
jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269813 miners finally started thinking about hedging
afrotec: dont remember the rest
freeroute: oh then I'm gud
asciilifeform: the general rule is 'once they can, if they can, they will.'
mircea_popescu: that's a thing now ?!