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jurov: MP says
that about anything
that smells funny
kleeck: shockingly,
topace DOES know more about his own legal situation
than mircea_popescu!
nubbins`: Duffer1:
that's what i assumed
Duffer1: MP are you saying you believe
the 'private investors' of cfig are really just CFIG
themselves?
mircea_popescu: you may be paying someone whatever, but lawyers
they are not.
topace: so yes, i'll stop replying
to
the public, and refer all questions
to
the lawyers frmo
this point forward
nubbins`: i feel like i'm missing a small but crucial piece of
this conversation
topace: that we pay a good chunk of $$$$$
to
topace: cuz i can do
that if you want
topace: mircea_popescu: would you feel better if my reply was "let me let me lawyer get back
to you?"
mircea_popescu: because
they still haven't introduced
this defense by "i
thought it was obscure youir honor, honest i did"
ThickAsThieves: yes, my lawyer is
telling me i need
to stop answering questions about my securities in public
too
mircea_popescu: kleeck it was clear
the first
tiem around for people with a clue in
the matters discussed.
kleeck: Yay!
Third
time around and mircea_popescu is able
to clearly articulate his inquiry. lol.
mircea_popescu: you will see a judgement for
the WHOLE sum slapped on your ass.
mircea_popescu: should
the jury decide your'e as much as 0.1% liable for
the damages on
the grounds of for instance having made statemets as
to investors
that don't exist
topace: what does 50 million provably
trading hands have
to do ?
mircea_popescu: looky here : if
this cfig scam ever sees
the light of day in a courthouse of some jurisdiction where every other party involved is immune but you are not,
mircea_popescu: maky, since i'm not getting an answer on
the first one, let's see a follow-up question.
nubbins`: you
technically can't count zero
things, either
kleeck: Not only will
the smalls not sell for a loss, but we were JUST
told
that
the pricate bigs are locked until
the official launch...
topace: and yes,
the remaining shares from
tranche1 move
to
the open market at noon
tomrorow
topace: doubt people will sell less
than
they just bought at
nubbins`: i mean, i don't
think
the whales who bought
the 150k ipo shares are going
to sell
nubbins`: i kinda doubt it, at
this point
Duffer1: basically cfig shares half off
tomorrow? :P
nubbins`: we're pleased
to announce
that our ipo didn't sell out
nubbins`: have showed
their support for our venture.
nubbins`: CRYPTO FINANCIAL (CFIG) is pleased
to announce
that our public offering of our Virtual Shares will close on Friday August 23rd, 2013 AT 12:00 P.M EST. Live
trading of our shares will commence immediately once
the IPO has closed. Any remaining shares will be placed for sale in
the open market at
the original IPO price. We appreciate
the countless people and organizations
that have reached out
to us
nubbins`: hm. i
trashed
the email
that mentioned
the start
time
tomorrow
kleeck: I
think
they have another super buy on deck. I'm guessing
that
there won't be many, if any, shares on
the open market by 12p
tomorrow.
ThickAsThieves: gonna need a less-than-private bitcoin-denominated investor
to move
that one
nubbins`: but
there's less
than 50k left now, after
those couple of huge buys
nubbins`: i
think
the original plan was 200k shares, in four
tranches of 50k
Duffer1: i.. why would
they do
that?.. wtf
nubbins`: somebody bought 100k shares
today,
too
nubbins`: they announced earlier
today
that
they're gonna cut
the IPO short and start selling shares on
the market
tomorrow
nubbins`: CFIG's ipo is getting more curious by
the day
nubbins`: hm. well, YOU
told
them,
they just didn't listen
nubbins`: but nobody
told
that
to
the people buying at 1.14
mircea_popescu: topace if i pay you a visit and show you how i give
this guy you've never met fifty million dollars in fresh bills would you be in a much better position
to see how private investorsa have paid fiat for whatever putative business
than you are in
this case, on account of at least actually having seen money change hands ?
topace: sure, but at some point,
there needs
to be some
trust :p
topace: kakobrekla: no, i've locked
their accounts
too :p
topace: also, CFIG has confirmed
that
the private investors will NOT sell _any_ of
their shares on havelock, until CFIG is officially in operation (aka, its verifyable
that people have opened accounts with
them and deposited/withdrawn fiat)
kleeck: topace, much appreciated.
Thank you.
topace: kleeck: no,
the private investors are not limited
kleeck: Topace, are
they being limited
to 20,000 shares a piece?
topace: i can confirm
that
the private investors for CFIG did pay with USD directly
to Crypto Financial, and crypto pushed shares on havelock into
their havelock accounts.
Doctor_Andonuts: Maybe beecause it is still a
true IPO and not open for
trading
Duffer1: why aren't
the cfig
trades showing a - or +?
ozbot: BTC-TC: BTC
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mircea_popescu: but look at
the graph and it'll be pretty clear btc was made in
that runup
there, which was starting what, 1-2 weeks ago
jurov: my futures are reasonably liquid.. just
that certain person gobbles
them all
mircea_popescu: how many people need
to hedge exposures over hundreds of btc ?
matuszed: If
there were maker
taker I would quote all day
matuszed: If
the futures were liquid I would quote on em
ozbot: BitBet -
There will be blood
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves in principle
there's not much keeping you from making any bets you want,
two weeks, a week, w/e.
jurov: and more people willing
to put
their skin in
mjr_1: looks like gox is not
the only exchange
to fuck up
Duffer1: they would need aMUCH better engine
than what
they've got now
mjr_1: more liquid
than nasdaq right now
pankkake: but you have nothing
to bet against
matuszed: Its got
to be meaningful for a
true mining operation
matuszed: there needs
to be a market maker
ThickAsThieves: the biggest
thing
that stops me from bitbetting is small amounts of btc for large amounts of
time
matuszed: theyre
the ones who should be
trading
those
ozbot: BitBet - BTC network hashrate will exceed 1,000
TH/s before December 14th 2013
ozbot: BitBet - BTC network difficulty
to
top 69 million by end of September