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Anduck: ._.
there's no point in
this since even now you understand you're wrong - you still keep on pushing
that
fractal: Anduck:
the 400Gh unit --as advertised -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for
total of 256 chips" -- failed
to meet hashrate performance
targets.
Anduck: the brackets in
the bet describe what
the "advertised performance" means
Anduck: i don't understand why you all
the
time come up with
that
they had
to add more h-cards for
the unit.. :/
they failed
that but it's got nothing
to do with
the performance of
the unit!
fractal: Anduck: no,
the bet doesn't say
that.
Anduck: there's nothing unclear in
this
Anduck: but it says
that
the people must get
the hashrate
they ordered. and it must eat
the <1 w/GH power. and
that promise is kept.
fractal: Anduck:
thats not what
the bet says.
Anduck: how did
they miss
that
target?
Anduck: but people got
the hashrate
they ordered?
fractal: Anduck: sorry, but
thats not what
the bet says.
fractal: There are 2 performance metrics -- hashrate, and wattage--
to meet performance
the hashrate must be higher
then advertised, and
the wattage must be lower.
The hashrate missed
targets.
Anduck: but
they STILL did NOT fail
the PERFORMANCE
Anduck: and
they failed
that part since
they had
to add more hardware for
the unit
Anduck: yeah
that's where
they describe
the hardware
the unit includes
fractal: -- 400Gh unit -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for
total of 256 chips" -- as advertised --
the hardware did not perform as advertised.
Anduck: how
the fuck it failed on performance if it eats less
than 1 W/GH as promised???
Anduck: and
the bet was about PERFORMANCE
Anduck: they failed
to meet
the LOOK and AMOUNT of hardware but NOT
the PERFORMANCE
Anduck: but
that's what
the bet says?
fractal: bitbet.us has
to go by
the WORDing of
the BET. not by what else 'it could mean'
fractal: and
the only
thing
that matters is what
the bet says
fractal: Thats not what
the bet says
Anduck: not about amount of hardware needed for
the unit. it as about
the _performance_
fractal:
http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/ -- 400Gh unit -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for
total of 256 chips" -- as advertised --
the hardware did not perform as advertised.
The bet clearly states
that
the hardware must perform as advertised. All conditions of
the bet were not met.
Therefore
the bet is a NO.
Anduck: it was about
the W/GH as
the brackets say
Anduck: but if BFL says
they deliver 5gh hashing unit
that eats X amount of watts and delivers same sized unit
that eats X+10 watts,
they haven't met
the advertised performance
Anduck: BFL says
they will deliver a 5gh hashing unit which eats X amount of watts.
they deliver a bigger sized 5gh hashing unit
that eats X amount of watts. customer got
the advertised performance
fractal: they didn't meet hardware specs because
the hardware underperformed -- and
that is what
the bet is about.
Anduck: but
the bet was about
the delivered unit.
think about BFL
Anduck: yeah
they didn't meet hardware specs,
true
fractal: which is what was advertised as a '400Gh' unit, according
to
the website
Anduck: that's not
the full 400 gh unit in
the pic, it's a full m-board with 16 h-cards.
Anduck: just
trying
to push
the bet wording once again so
there's _no_ misunderstanding
fractal: so,
that basically proves
that
the 400GH unit missed specs.
Anduck: but i must again say: he ordered 400gh unit and 25gh unit and got both, both performing as advertised (except he got extra hardware for
that)
mircea_popescu: I'm still
tweaking my units manually. I'd say 380GH from 16 H-boards is possible.
Anduck: and
that in
total draws less
than 400 watts
Anduck: 400gh and 25gh unit
together does
that i
think
mircea_popescu: hey, buttcoin ppl : pls
to include in your next update
ty.
dexX7: didn't know
they provide one
pankkake: because
there's no better way? :)
kakobrekla: why are you doing
the same
thing again when its stupid way
to do it for
the first
time around
seangeng_: i'll see if i can write something
that captures it's output
fractal: ah didnt see
that. ok.
thanks
fractal: sept 1 happens 24
times in different
timezones
mircea_popescu: what;'s
the bet say anyway, by sept 1st ? on sept 1st ?
fractal: ok... and in which
timezone is
the cutoff?
fractal: ok... so if people post
to
the forums who receive orders
tomorrow,
those wouldn't be included in
the bet
timeframe, right?
fractal: punin: "We also found a noticeable voltage drop on
the IOVDD chain when all 16 cards are plugged in (down
to 1V66 from 1V8).
This will get fixed (hopefully) in next revision on M-boards,
that is already in production.
This should help lower
the errors and noise on Bus D." looks like
their 400Gh units are underperforming on hashrate...
fractal: ok
thanks. how long does
the usual process
take?
fractal: is
the resolution exactly 7 hours away?
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kakobrekla: looking for nuts?
theres plenty on
teh forums.
KRS1: thats why a nigga like me always be on my grind, im just a squirrel in
this world
tryin
to get a nut...ya feel me.
mircea_popescu: like, you know,
the low effort high pay ones such as state senator.
mircea_popescu: the same shit is going on in
the states with
the race politics
thing,
there's some incompetent niggers whio would like
to exclude competent black people from jobs
mircea_popescu: to carve
themselves a little
territory
that may be defended on any other grounds but intellectual ability and professional competence
mircea_popescu: and so
they make
this desperate ploy essentially union-like in its nature
mircea_popescu: who KNOW
they dion't belong
there, and KNOW
that actual competent women a) would make
them look bad and b) aren't likely
to bother arguing politics with
them
pankkake: well
the problem is
the people who listen,
they're larger
mircea_popescu: the problem is not batshit insane feminists.
the problem is
there's a group of morons, adria richards being a fine example, sandra sharp being anothjer fine example
pankkake: Now, will
this help women get into
tech? Of course not,
they will feel shunned. I’d like
to have more women
there, but batshit insane feminists will not allow it.
pankkake: The only
thing
to retain from
this article: don’t
talk at a
tech conference if
there is a woman nearby.
mircea_popescu: pankkake well yeah,
the sane criticisms are
the worst from what i see.
pankkake: I wrote
that her actions were actually discouraging women
to get info
the profession
pankkake: mircea_popescu: mostly French forums (one multiple
times). I remember blogs (last one was Adria Richards, even banned me from reading), what.cd
dexX7: well btc-garden has some history in china and was probably only unknown
to us westeners
mircea_popescu: you have
to admit
the "we made it up" is by far
the simpler explanation
ThickAsThieves: odd
that i'm one of
the few people wondering where
the hell
that much coin came from
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mircea_popescu: there should be a meme
thing, "hey yo, we know you're poor so we put some poverty in your poverty so you can be poor while you're poor"
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