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kakobrekla: Total
time logged in: 105 days, 34 minutes.
jurov: and just making
them move
jurov: i just bought year ago at
tenth of current price.. and still holding part of
them
jurov: and i'm
to return him 6.15btc
then
jurov: so
the exchange with random_cat went smoothly, he's due
to return 350.1 ltc before sep 17
kakobrekla: ;;later
tell mircea_popescu bitbet now has qrcodes
jurov: only .1? no problem
then, we can go ahead
random_cat: i can live with
that. if .1 ltc breaks me, i've got bigger fish
to fry
random_cat: oh. it appears
they short
the redeem code
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 1.00978800 BTC
to 2`019`576 shares, 50 satoshi per share
random_cat: as best i can
tell, btc-e charges 0.1 ltc
to you for generating
the redeem code
random_cat: (see if
that causes any manip at btce :)
random_cat: i just generated a new address, but i want
to immediately short on btce anyway
jurov: but i don't know
the fee
random_cat: thx. i don't know how others
think of it, but i usually
think of interest as paid after
jurov: random_cat: if you don't want
to wait, btc-e redeemable code is possible
jurov: hmm, okay,you seem
trusted enough
random_cat: (i.e. you keep
that part of
the collateral)
jurov: okay mmnt, i need
to start litecoind after some
time and sync
random_cat: yes. we can swap
the other direction @ ~ 2200 utc on 16 september 2013
jurov: well, so i'm going
to loan you 350 ltc
jurov: random_cat: i
take it
jurov: about coinjar.. but applies
to everything
random_cat: you're
talking about
tradehill, right, jurov? :D
BigBitz: the lack of information from
that company is shocking.
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 84306785.7838 based on data since last change | 103644358.694 based on data for last
three days
kakobrekla: Duffer1 not so hard for idiots
to have problems
Duffer1: I don't see how he's having so many problems with
this stuff when CampBX is chugging right along
kakobrekla: this preety much puts him in
top 5 idiots of bitcoin
Duffer1: It seems like it hasn't even been a week since
they announced
they'd be using iafcu
ozbot: Tradehill: Suspending
Trading IAFCU funds available for withdrawal
jurov: a poor soul decided
to short and is selling for
this price
jurov: ^
ThickAsThieves, mind you
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 143.75761, Best ask: 144.85992, Bid-ask spread: 1.10231, Last
trade: 144.86995, 24 hour volume: 32003.75783192, 24 hour low: 138.00000, 24 hour high: 148.70000, 24 hour vwap: 143.99789
pankkake: hm,
the bet says
the *US Congress* will authorize it
qqq111: I'm surprised
there isn't a 'US will strike syria by X date' bet
qqq111: i wish. i'd probably have more money
then i do now..
qqq111: looking at it from a PR viewpoint for bitbet, it would probably be best
to nullify... avoid
the inevitable forum shitstorm. (unless
thats what
the owners want ;)
qqq111: that bet should probably be nullified. imo. (though i would lean
toward
the no side)
Anduck: bitfury bet resolution
time
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 127.03, Best ask: 128.90, Bid-ask spread: 1.87000, Last
trade: 127.03, 24 hour volume: 19393.68175885, 24 hour low: 124.65, 24 hour high: 134.95, 24 hour vwap: None
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ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of
the result options is given, returns only
that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns
ticker for
that
three-letter currency code. It is up
to you
to make sure
the code (1 more message)
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 83153841.6921 based on data since last change | 96918516.8521 based on data for last
three days
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 140.44190, Best ask: 140.44192, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last
trade: 140.44192, 24 hour volume: 29621.29593549, 24 hour low: 135.89000, 24 hour high: 148.70000, 24 hour vwap: 143.02056
assbot: Last
trade for DMS.SELLING on BTCTC was at 0.01285 BTC [+]
zoinky: so is
the easiest way
to get a feed
to have a ircbot watching assbot?
pankkake: it doesn't have a web socket, at least not a public one. even
the "realtime"
thing is just a page refreshed every other second
fractal: I hope
they dont decide without a long discussion
fractal: I
think
this is a serious discussion
to have If i were bitbet.... its clear
they shipped on
time and are a great company .... but
the language of
the bet here -- specifically what a 'UNIT' is defined as-- is very important.
saulimus: stop
talking
then, it's clearly going nowhere
Anduck: weve
talked about
this for about 6-7 hours
saulimus: you've been
talking about
this for more
than an hour
tyrion70: cuz if you had
to pay more it would have been a no..
fractal: Anduck:
The bet says performance for a 400Gh UNIT.
tyrion70: they changed
the definition of a unit halfway
the bet..
Anduck: it's not really relevant does
the kit include 10000 chips or 10 chips
to make
the 400gh unit hash
that 400gh.
the requirement in
the bet was
that 400gh unit hashes 400gh at <400W
tyrion70: From my viewpoint
they would not meet performance..
Anduck: which would only make it 8 h-cards.
the customer buys 400gh unit. 400gh unit produces 400gh
tyrion70: well if I ordered
them and I cleared shelves in my rack I'd be very sad if
they were 10
times as large as advertized...
fractal: Anduck:
then
the bet would be a yes. it would over-perform.
Anduck: no,
they would ship 400gh worth of h-cards
Anduck: would
they ship 16 h-cards as promised for 400gh unit?
Anduck: tyrion70:
they could do whatever
they want, add or remove
the hardware.
think about
that what if 1 h-card produced 50 ghash
fractal: For a UNIT
to have performance,
there has
to be a UNIT
that someone can speak of ....
the UNIT is question is " "1 Master board. 16 hashing boards. 1 Raspberry Pi Model B"
tyrion70: well.. if
they bet on Yes
they would fix
that with
this solution.. whilst not improving
the hardware itself..
Anduck: that is what
the bet
talks about, right?
Anduck: bitfurystrikesback defines
their 400gh kit performance
this way:
fractal: a UNIT has
to have performance. and
the definition of
the UNIT is what bfsb.com says -as advertised - "1 Master board. 16 hashing boards. 1 Raspberry Pi Model B"
Anduck: fractal: yeah but
thats not
the performance promise lol
tyrion70: ok but it means
that bitfury can influence
the outcome of
the bet with a
technicality..
Anduck: only
the performance must be met, nothing about hardware itself
fractal: Anduck: yes it does. bfsb.com says
the hardware unit is "as advertised - "1 Master board. 16 hashing boards. 1 Raspberry Pi Model B""
Anduck: it only addresses
the PERFORMANCE of
the unit
Anduck: it doesnt address
the hardware
the unit includes
Anduck: it does define
the unit
to be 400gh unit or 25gh unit
tyrion70: I'd expect a unit
to have a performance..
fractal: Anduck:
thats right.... nobody is disagreeing with
that. We're
talking about
the bet language which defines a UNIT as as advertised - "1 Master board. 16 hashing boards. 1 Raspberry Pi Model B" --
this is 365Gh
tyrion70: the performance of
the machine should stay
the same
tyrion70: isn't
that kind of weird anduck?
fractal: Anduck:
the 400Gh unit doesn't produce 400Gh... it produces 365Gh.....
the extra hardware is shipped
to make up for performance misses..... its VERY GOOD PR and means bitfury is a great company, but it also means not all condiitons of
the bet were met.