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Luke-Jr: fractal: I encourged wizkid057
to reinstate namecoin merged mining when a new development
team stepped forward and
took it forward with Namecoin-Qt
fractal: Luke-Jr:
they are 100% not physically connected. seperate units.
fractal: Luke-Jr: it came out of your mouth 2 months ago. you woudn't merge-,mine namecoin because it had illegal data in
the blockchain --- i want
to know when you changed your mind and became corrupted by money
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: correct, although I don't know if
they're physically connected
Duffer1: not everyone received
that
though Nubbs, it's weird, just ignore it hehe
fractal: nubbins`:
they're not
taped
together...
they're completely seperate devieces.... completely seperate units, because a single unit does not do 400Gh
Luke-Jr: fractal: if you have an actual argument why namecoin is illegal or immoral, please feel free
to email me with it or bring it up in #eligius - but after
the last day or so, you seem entirely un-credible in your claims
nubbins`: Luke-Jr: so
they essentially attached 2 boards
together, but it's still 400GH/s+ and <= 400W? And everyone who ordered one of
these "400 gigahash mining units" is receiving one of
these 2-boards-taped-together devices?
Kleeck__: Oh. We're debating
this AGAIN.
This is week
three, no?
fractal: nubbins`: notice how Luke-Jr says 'both' boards... when
the bet states it must be contained in a single UNIT
Luke-Jr: nubbins`:
the actual watts used by both boards combined is like 270 W
Luke-Jr: nubbins`:
the specs are linked from
the OP
there
nubbins`: Luke-Jr: link
to specs? 400GH/s+ at <= 400W?
fractal: compensation for missing performance
targets
fractal: Luke-Jr:
they were seperate units
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: which operate well within
the advertised performance
fractal: Luke-Jr:
thinks
that 2 Units == 1 Unit
Luke-Jr: nubbins`:
they delivered 400 Gh/s units
that comprised of multiple boards
nubbins`: "Devices must meet advertised performance" is pretty cut and dry,
too. We all know what "MUST" means.
fractal: nubbins`: exactly....
thank god you can understand logic. Luke-Jr can't
Luke-Jr: fractal: you spoke as if you were integrity42 and made no attempt
to even implicitly deny it until now
nubbins`: for
that matter, if
the unit only hashes at 365GH/s,
then
the "400 gigahash mining units" haven't even been delivered
fractal: with zero evidence
to back it up
fractal: nubbins`:
thanks. you and most others are logical.
fractal: Luke-Jr: its clear
that money and wealth has corrupted you......
nubbins`: well, after a cursory, glance, it would seem
that
the outcome of
that bet is an obvious no. 365 < 400.
fractal: Luke-Jr: personally i
think its disgusting
that you are knowingly merge mining a chain with illegal content on it....
fractal: Luke-Jr: by
the way, why did eligius start merge-mining Namecoin??? i
thought you found
that chain morally wrong
to promote?
fractal: the only reason someone would disagree is if
they were paid a bribe...
fractal: theres no possible way
that anyone could say
that a unit was anything other
then what fits on 1M-board.... its advertised right on
their website
fractal: Luke-Jr: i have no doubt Anduck likely paid you off
to shilll for him....
fractal: also, I'll be monitoring
the bitfury
thread and waiting for punin
to make more comments about what a 'unit' is.... I will post all of
these so
that people can see
that your attempt
to define a unit as something other
then 1M-board makes you look like a complete fool
fractal: Luke-Jr: punin himself acknowleged
that a 400Gh unit does not do 365Gh
fractal: Luke-Jr: everyone who can do math on
the forum post disagrees with you
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: fractal claims you're a scammer; while I don't argue about
that, I
think you made
the right call here
fractal: mp: basically Luke-Jr
tried
to accuse me of
theft and stealing coins, based on some post from a christian church website on betting, because he
thinkgs i knew
the outcome before i made
the bet, and didn't
tell anyone about it in
time for
them
to retract
their bet
fractal: Luke-Jr: and by
the way, bets on bitbet aren't bets.
they are a contract, based on clauses in
the FAQ, which read "Bets will not be cancelled because it became impossible for one side
to win" ...
this is against your morals post, which means everyone who bets on bitbet is not a moral better. which means
they aren't betting,
they're engaging in a contract
fractal: i checked
to make sure
the rules
fractal: since i
told all in
the comments
that
the bet was a NO
fractal: even after i used your own post
to disprove your argument
fractal: you accussed me of
theft based on your 'morals'
fractal: Luke-Jr: promote a set of morals
that are false all you like, won't make it
true
Luke-Jr: fractal: slander all you like, won't make it
true
fractal: Luke-Jr:
the same church
that burned books, raped and killed millions? no
thank you.
Luke-Jr: fractal:
they aren't mine, and anyone who disagrees with
the Church on morals is simply wrong
pankkake: in 10 years he will be on
the streets ranting about bitbet
pankkake: he reminds me of
the crazy homeless guys who
talk
to
themselves
Luke-Jr: "everybody" making up
their own is merely delusional
fractal: Luke-Jr: yeah, you instead accuse others of
trying
to 'steal' coins from people. incredibly rude and unprofessional
fractal: Luke-Jr: you
try
to preach arbitrary ones
Duffer1: i don't see how it's a scam if divs provide more income
than your buy in
fractal: right. which means you have
to sell shares
to idiots
to make money, which is morally wrong
ThickAsThieves: all companies are a scam, cuz like 99% of
them go out of business someday
Duffer1: cheers man, i'm reading
the prospectus now
ThickAsThieves: I did suggest some
tweaks, who knows if
they'll listen :)
ThickAsThieves: <Duffer1>
ThickAsThieves looks hot man, i like it a lot (except
the yellow color of nEo, bitcoin orange might be cool) <<< I like
the yellow, but ultimately
that's all decided by
the marketing
team
fractal: soooooooooo stupid idiots all over
the forums falling for
this
fractal: they send me USD. i immeditaely convert it
to BTC....
then i pay
them out 50% of
that over
the lifetime of
the virtual miner, and keep
the other 50% as profit
fractal: but
the idiot buyers are happy because 'when
the exchange rate goes up,
they'll ROI in USD!'
fractal: so now i'm selling virtual hashing units for USD
that will never ROI in BTC
terms.... i'm paying out 100% PPS, and pocketing
the BTC differential as profit
fractal: btw, i gave up on
trying
to convince idiots
that buying mining equipment in USD
that doesn't ROI in BTC
terms is a bad idea....
mircea_popescu: it
takes more
to make a block
than all
the math done in
the entire history of humanity up until 1900 or so.
fractal: advice we can all
take, i'm sure.
fractal: now i'm actually using reverse reverse psychology so
that you don't register it
fractal: why not? im
trying
to use reverse psychology so
that you have
to spend $4
Duffer1: ThickAsThieves looks hot man, i like it a lot (except
the yellow color of nEo, bitcoin orange might be cool)
fractal: just dont
take bad bets. if
the bet can't be broken down into logical symbols, dont
take it
mircea_popescu: well no, as a fiction it wouldn't. once it's live i'm curious how
that works.
fractal: fuckbitbet.com wouldn't
take bad bets
though in
the first place, so it woudln't run into
these problems
mircea_popescu: i'd bet
there a lot, seeing how i probably have a lot more shitslinging capacity
than you can dream of.
fractal: rather
then having
these forum posts continue on indefinitely
mircea_popescu: well if
that's what you
think i really can't wait for your competitor.
fractal: mp: i
think betbet should return
the NO bets
their money, and
then gain from
the positive PR
they'd receive
mircea_popescu: this is
true now and it'll stay
true as best as i can determine until we move on
to writing c++ instead of english
fractal: people bet based on
the logical flow of
the language in
the bet
mircea_popescu: ideally your position is substantially supported. if it's
technically suported you're at risk.
fractal: a nominalist view is
the only way
to decide it.
mircea_popescu: but you'll have
to understand
that bitbet is used by many people for many purposes and
technical arguments may or may not carry.
mircea_popescu: i get
that in a strong nominalist view you want
this as a no,
fractal: mp: if bitfury sehipped more hardware,
they changed
the spec, and
the bet was a yes..... you've contradicted yourself.
mircea_popescu: fractal
they advertised
two
types, overshot performance on one, undershot on
the other and made up for
the difference sending more gear.
fractal: mp:
the bitfury bet, as
timestamped, showed
the 400Gh unit as being hardware on 1M-board.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather have vague short
text everyone can be expected
to read
than long
text everyone can be expected not
to read.
fractal: mp: so
then why was
the bitfury bet a yes when
the hardware UNIT as advertised didn't do 400Gh? but only 365Gh????????????
mircea_popescu: and yes it's not hard
to link
to a pastebin but it's hard
to have it read.
fractal: mp: not hard
to link
to a pastebin
fractal: heres another bullshit sentence -- "credibly show
their sample ASIC chip working
to specification" what is
the specification? what is
the
timestamp of
the spec? what if Labcoin changes spec during
the bet?