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jurov: seems we have got same
thing with bitcoin
kakobrekla: people constantly send me signed stuff
that i cant verify
jurov: how less
than pgp?
jurov: same
thing verifies on blockchain.info but not in bitcoin-qt
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 133012690.564 based on data since last change | 139651372.699 based on data for last
three days
kakobrekla: thats not what i was
trying
to say, but anyway, lets move on
kakobrekla: good
to know for when ill be on who wants
to be a millionarie
soypirate: Fun fact: FANBOYS, incidentally, is an acronym comprising all coordinating conjunctions in
the English language.
soypirate: whazaaap everyone. I just wanted
to
thank you all for
the many learning experiences I've had here. I lurk
the logs when i can't access an IRC client... but u guys are
the best...
ThickAsThieves: <tyrion70> hey
TAT, finished ur popcorn yet? <<<<
This is bitcoin. Should probably buy stock in Orville Redenbacher by now!
Rulother___: This is a first for Havelock
to have a higher price
than BTCT for labcoin
tyrion70: hey
TAT, finished ur popcorn yet?
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 138.76503, Best ask: 139.49997, Bid-ask spread: 0.73494, Last
trade: 138.76503, 24 hour volume: 8175.41457116, 24 hour low: 137.85000, 24 hour high: 142.23000, 24 hour vwap: 139.77612
pankkake: I have no position in
those stocks
dexX7: hey pankakke, i was wondering: do you offer
the lab bet
to hedge or
to call posers out?
Scrat: next one is going
to be a 40%
kakobrekla: ;;later
tell mircea_popescu 15:44.00 ( Neil ) kakobrekla: ^^^ Plz close
the hash rate bet.
Neil: kakobrekla: ^^^ Plz close
the hash rate bet.
pankkake: it's provably fair
technically
pankkake: it was with
test coins so normal
ThickAsThieves: and
then someone else said
they couldnt withdraw or sumth
ThickAsThieves: the website is rather fancy, but didnt Dooglus say
their shit is provably unfair?
pankkake: well
there is a working website
ThickAsThieves: did
this letsdice
thing
turn out
to be a scam or what?
ThickAsThieves: Early bidding is active on BTCT, and I'm
trying
to sort out same on BitFunder and Havelock
ThickAsThieves: The Pre-IPVO round starts
tomorrow at 5pm UTC,
the IPVO starts on Friday at 5pm UTC (1pm EDT)
ThickAsThieves: no need for
the Bitcoin Foundation
to start voting on client features
ThickAsThieves: i was arguing for
this sort of path with Luke-Jr yesterday
Scrat: ThickAsThieves: I
think of it like
this: more people have
to work on clients full
time,
this isnt a hobby any more
ThickAsThieves: that $600k doesnt come without a price, i can
tell you
that much
dexX7: the armory
thing is a bit odd.. how do
they monetize it?
Rulother___: I was at a get
together when I got an alert I
thought I would never get in a while lol
dexX7: i don't like manipulation at all and
those fudsters are
the worst scum ever, but it's indeed profitable
Rulother___: I sold off @ .0033 and bought back in at .0015 sooo it's not all
too bad for me really.
gesell: i also dont see how whales with $3
to $20m possitions could be dump enough
to not stagger buyin. but maybe i dont understand something
Scrat: ThickAsThieves: like a wife still defending
the abusive husband
gesell: i mean
the stagger of
the buyer
gesell: i guess i dont see how
the rival of
the exchanges would effect
this
ThickAsThieves: the great phenomenon in all
this is
that
the other exchanges still
trail
the gox price
gesell: so lets say
the buyer wants
to buy $10m worth. I still dont see why
they wouldnt stagger over
time
gesell: im just
thinking of reasons for why it might not just be a FIAT exit.
ThickAsThieves: suppose it's
two rival exchanges, and a large buyer
taking a position
gesell: ThickAsThieves: yeah, so we have someone buying millions (in value of $) a pop.
This is a lot of fiat exiting. Also, iit's been happening long enough, for weeks,
that cant imagine someone is doing
this because of risk over
time
ThickAsThieves: thus i buy in chunks, and wait for
the price
to settle
ThickAsThieves: gesell, i know myself
that when buying certain stocks I can attempt
to pace my buying, but when volume is
too low
the waiting becomes a risk
gesell: pankkake: delays and limits. bitstamp limits arent enough
to arbitrage
ThickAsThieves: gesell's argument doesnt necessarily preclude
there being wd issues
gesell: ThickAsThieves: why are
there so many large buys? A buying force wouldn't create
this.
The buyer would still want
to get
the cheapest price, not jack it up as
the current whales seem
to be doing
ThickAsThieves: it's own gox "bank run", whether
through actual necessity or sheer superstition.
ThickAsThieves: gesell, whether it's because of withdrawal issues on Gox or elswhere, my working
theory is still
that
there seems
to be a paced buying force. Just as, when volume was higher,
there were paced selling forces. I'm guessing
this drawn-out rally will not be able
to avoid moving
the price as much as
they'd like
though, particularly considering
that
the market is looking for a cue
to manifest
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.88478800 BTC
to 1`769`576 shares, 50 satoshi per share
gesell: dexX7: what i monitored and showed in
the post was $3m in BTC and FIAT compbined. (some in FIAT
to place buys, some in BTC
to place phantom ask walls). But
this has been going on now for a few weeks so $20m is just a rough guess
dexX7: sorry, got
to go afk for a few mins
gesell: also,
take into account pretty stringent limits on other exchanges... if you had $20m in FIAT on gox im not sure
there is another place
to
take it
to get it out, if you wanted. so... again, not movements because of withdrawal issues
gesell: so yes
they follow but very slowly
gesell: dexX7:
the other exchanges only now met
the initial shock price from a few weeks back
gesell: dexX7: at first i
thought
the phatom wall could be so
that you push
the asks beneith
that, in effect setting an upper bound forcing a lot of asks
to go lower
than maybe
they would have normally.
this would benefit you as an investor because you'd get coin for cheaper when you buy. Still.... if
the play is because you want cheaper coin, or because you want
to have a shock ralley... it's not because of withdrawal
dexX7: but gox still acts as market leader, so if you do want
to cash out, i don't see how a ralley could hurt, because other exchanges follow usually
gesell: dexX7: yeah my
thought was if your purpose is
to get FIAT out of gox you would want
to avoid a ralley, especially one
that might create issue with you removing your FIAT via another exchange
dexX7: or it is because you might
think: if you want
to solely cash out, you don't want
to induce any market reaction,
thus no "i
try
to
trigger a ralley" moves?
dexX7: investments or
to convert your gox fiat holdings. where is
teh differece? :)
dexX7: cool, but i don't get it. if you place (manipulative) ask walls, you want
the plankton
to out-ask (xD) you
to eat all
their cheaper coins. when you release
the wall + send a larger market order,
that's fine, also, because you might
think
this could
trigger an smallish ralley -- i don't see a conflict here? he wants cheaper coins (if
that all is correct), either way
to manipulate bitcoin
Neil: kakobrekla / mircea_popescu: You can close
the bet
ozbot: Most Secure Bitcoin Wallet Armory Raises $600k Led by
Trace Mayer - MarketWatch
Neil: It seems
to lag other sources.
mircea_popescu: .6 is not even a round lol. i don't even know anyone who'd sign for less
than about 5mn by now.
Duffer1: from vc perspective
though..
Duffer1: ah i suppose you're right. i'm not used
to
thinking of .6mil as a small amount
mircea_popescu: they're hoping
they maybe come up with something. at least it's a known brand
that's known for actually doing something.
Duffer1: i love armory but i don't see how an investor would get any return off
that..
ozbot: Most Secure Bitcoin Wallet Armory Raises $600k Led by
Trace Mayer - MarketWatch
mod6: damn,
thats fucked up
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dub: now
that is
trolling
assbot: Last
trade for LABCOIN on BTCTC was at 0.002631 BTC [-]
Duffer1: and miss
the most entertaining
ticker in
this chan lol no way