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ThickAsThieves: i think it's overthinking it, and kako's comprmise might cover it
mircea_popescu: originally i had in the draft for this thing an ability for the bettor to introduce an arbitrary weigh curve, and the site to interpret that functional.
mircea_popescu: as in, the real risk over time will dip under or over
mircea_popescu: bgupta let's be abstract here. the risk over time functional is probably not a polynomial, but something more c omplex, perhaps even discrete. the weight is linear. obviously these won't match
bgupta: I'd say the compromise would be a minimum betting window.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i don't understand that at all.
bgupta: despite the weighting.
bgupta: mircea_popescu: well for example, any bet that resolves end of this year, betting can currently only close on xmas day. (or if the net resolves early.) e.g. XYZ will happen in 2013. If the probability of outcome changes drastically between the start of betting and the closing of betting, those that bet early on the low probility event kinda get screwed by people piling on one it looks more like a sure thing,
kakobrekla: i dont like too much bets stuck in 'closed' limbo , there has to be some limit to it, but i can see raising it
ThickAsThieves: rather than allow more
ThickAsThieves: we just wait for bet to resolve after a certain point
mircea_popescu: you can set end weight to anything you wish, like 95k
kakobrekla: they want larger amount of far between closing time and resolution
ThickAsThieves: the close it gets, the more weighting ruins early betters
mircea_popescu: Vexual ty./
ThickAsThieves: if you wannt bet that BTC/USD will be $500 before June 1 2014,
mircea_popescu: and how do you know what he wants in the first place ?!
mircea_popescu: i dun think i am following this
mircea_popescu: right now you could make a bet that resolves on the 29th
kakobrekla: we didnt think more is needed at the time
ThickAsThieves: well thats what bgupta asked
kakobrekla: what you thought it goes over 11?
mircea_popescu: 2 to 7 iirc.
ThickAsThieves: i asked if interface allows that
ThickAsThieves: bgupta asked about ending bets more than a week before resolution
ThickAsThieves: all teh updatez
mircea_popescu: and lead to the search preset.
mircea_popescu: also the closed/resolved headings are clickable
mircea_popescu: haha. it shall be known as tat.rss-pt
kakobrekla: also tat, your rss is on
mircea_popescu: you just put some btc on a side along with your bet,t hwere's an address there
kakobrekla: NO YES DON'T TAKE A SIDE
ThickAsThieves: but does the interface allow to choose such?
JWU42: so - maybe YABMC finally comes to bitfunder afterall
ozbot: Our Emperor, deliver us. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
jurov: yes i think it does, it can be chosen
bgupta: weighting algo). e.g. - the predicted difficulty level by a certain date bets. BTW - good change in bbet FAQ today.
bgupta: mircea_popescu: Would bbet consider allowing bets to close more than one week before the "resolution date"? I think if that change were made it might draw out more "long shot" bettors early in the process, that just get overwhelmed by late betters when that long-shot becomes more of the high-probability outcome. (My anecdotal observations, see late betters just bet big and screw the early bettors despite th
kakobrekla: its never a bad time to ask
jurov: bad time to ask
kakobrekla: is this a good time to run?
mircea_popescu: o the horror.
jurov: mircea_popescu: sadly the things you wanted to be in bitcoin record were censored, check the log and kick kakobrekla
mircea_popescu: anyway. good that rich people are starting to use the system for what it's actually useful : lolz.
mircea_popescu: i can see the chips hashing pot in the distance!
mircea_popescu: omg bartholomew is in the labcoin lab of coins!
Vexual: that cat knows how to belize
ozbot: John McAfee Shows How to Uninstall McAfee Software in Bizarre NSFW Video
Vexual: mcafee don't ask his lawyers anything, he tells them
Vexual: Eventually, McAfee loses his cool. "You know, something went wrong. Fifteen years ago, I had some beautiful software and they took it over. I don't know what they did," he says in the video. "It was like the time I hired that Bangkok prostitute to do my taxes while he f*cked my accountant. It was terrible. The same f*cking thing is going on now."
mircea_popescu: i didn't know that can happen.
mircea_popescu: o look, tat's not around ?
jurov: these lawyers... ThickAsThieves, is your intent malicious, neutral, benefactory or completely misguided?
jurov: too dense text.. causes timeouts :D
mircea_popescu: of inadvertence, negligence, or mistake.” (Guidant/BSC Reply 5.) As a factual matter, this claim is questionable. It could just as well be said that heavily counseled parties to mega-mergers do not sign merger agreements containing glaringly ambiguous terms that lead to avoidable litigation—but here we are.
mircea_popescu: In support of their argument that the Agreement preserves liability only for malicious breaches, defendants argue that the word “willful” would be unnecessary unless it meant “malicious.” There is no reason to limit liability to breaches that are intentional, they claim, because any breach of this Agreement would be intentional—”[h]eavily counseled parties to mega-mergers do not breach merger agreements out
mircea_popescu: Agreement § 7.02; emphasis added). J&J argues that defendants’ conduct was “wilful.” Whether a factfinder could so find depends on the meaning of that term as it is used in the Agreement. While defendants argue that a breach is only willful if it is committed with malice or in bad faith, plaintiff [J&J] contends that “wilful” merely means “intentional.”
mircea_popescu: The Agreement provides that in the event of termination, no party shall be liable beyond the specific liabilities imposed in the Agreement (i.e., the termination fee), except “that no such termination shall relieve any party … from any liability or damages resulting from the wilful and material breach … by a party of any of its representations, warranties, covenants or agreements set forth in this Agreement.” (
thestringpuller: tu es tres cool :D
pankkake: chouette c'est bien, plus trop à la mode mais ok
thestringpuller: pankkake tu es tres chouette! Je suis desole, je suis boiteux
pankkake: C'est possible = it's possible, it = talking
thestringpuller: est-ce que tu es francais?
pankkake: he took the cake
Rannasha: yeah, it was towtoad/nakowa/celeste/whatever-his-name-is
jborkl: yeah - it was up 6300 and one dude took it down to -5000
jborkl: last time i looked a few days ago they were up 6300btc - now they are down 5000
kakobrekla: prolly not all of them
bitcoin42: thats why all the funds of funds got crushed in the financial crisis
kakobrekla: except here they do it for different reasons or whatever
kakobrekla: out there in the 'real' finance world
kakobrekla: no the last one was a pozni
bitcoin42: investors DESERVE to lose their money
bitcoin42: what? so there were funds of funds where each fund invested in another fund??? what a fucking joke
kakobrekla: and whatever when to eachother went to pirate
jurov: and they invested to each other and to pirate
jurov: so this was only to be expected
jurov: bitcoin42: on glbse there were several such funds
ThickAsThieves: does one exist is the question...
ThickAsThieves: i dont think buying into a fund is bad in and of itself
bitcoin42: 'here, take my money, try to trade with it because i can't do it myself. if you lose my money, oh well!!!'
dexX7: the index was flawed, because he compared apples to oranges
bitcoin42: not sure how people investing in Bitcoin assets are so stupid... someone actaully invested in a fund that trades assets on btctc? unbelieveable.
ThickAsThieves: i think his fee is on divs
ThickAsThieves: not so sure he'll make it to 3)
pankkake: 1) create meaningless financial index 2) create fund that sucks but outperforms that index 3) profit
pankkake: a thing created by smidge
pankkake: but still better than DCX so all is well, right? :)
kakobrekla: also wtf with the dates
pankkake: Midge (1963-1966, 1988- present) This character was Barbie's Best Friend.
ThickAsThieves: or were they just like hey new girl, you get to be the scapegoat!
ThickAsThieves: wait the board vote was for a new president?
pankkake: they don't have anything between their legs
kakobrekla: or do those dolls have kids with names
Scrat: a decisive win for team jesus
kakobrekla: and their kiddo Garr
ThickAsThieves: they can call the exchange The Slaughterhouse 2(.0)
dexX7: i see what you did there.. lol
kakobrekla: barbie too?
ThickAsThieves: i love that surname, except she pronounces it the a way i don't love