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ozbot: $100 for $100 Fine Silver Coin - The Grizzly (2014)
Diablo-D3: yeah, hes talking about ones that have $5 of metal in them for $20
pigeons: oh your talking about some special ones, sorry
pigeons: no its the opposite nubbins`
Diablo-D3: oz of precious metal IS the face value, its a unit of currency
nubbins`: they're worth more as face value than bullion
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: this is what Im saying
nubbins`: but with these 20 for 20 / 100 for 100 coins
nubbins`: usually with bullion coins, nobody gives a fuck about the face value because it's more valuable as bullion
Diablo-D3: you know how much the US mint makes?
Diablo-D3: Namworld: thats insane
nubbins`: anyway, the point i was making is
Diablo-D3: because I'd totally show up with a ton
pigeons: they used to would make you a $1 coin
Diablo-D3: and asked them to make me a $100 coin
nubbins`: they sell silver maple leafs for $95, where you can buy them from any coin shop for $25
Diablo-D3: if I went to the mint
Namworld: Beside, they're heavily marked up.
nubbins`: see, the mint itself sells coins at HUGE markups
truffles: id go tell Princess Diana dont get the car
Diablo-D3: Namworld: thats insane
Namworld: This one has almost the same face value as silver content...
nubbins`: pigeons: they'd sell it as metal
Namworld: or this 25 CAD for 1 oz silver coin: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/100-for-100-fine-silver-coin-the-grizzly-2014-prod1730001#.Ukb0wz8phsI
nubbins`: pigeons: yes, but nobody would do that
truffles: time machine i wouldnt chose that ..
pigeons: ok so deposit your $30 of silver in the bank and you get $5
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: I become one of the richest men alive
Namworld: Or this 100 CAD coin with about 1 oz of silver in it: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/100-for-100-fine-silver-coin-the-grizzly-2014-prod1730001#.Ukb0wz8phsI
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: if I build a time machine, shovel a million dollars into it, go back in time to the day the Fed was opened
Namworld: Like this, 500 CAD coin with 5 oz of gold in it: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/5-oz-pure-gold-coin-an-aboriginal-story-mintage-100-2013-prod1700007#.Ukb0dD8phsI
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: well, this is what fiat currency does to you, it makes you think what I said was odd
pigeons: what is the face value of a silver maple leaf?
nubbins`: Diablo-D3: fair enough, although that's an odd way to say it
Diablo-D3: pre-Fed USD is worth far more than USD now.
Diablo-D3: inflation depletes the purchasing power of currency
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: a unit of currency is supposed to be a stable representation of purchasing power
pigeons: yeah canada's commemorative coins are marked many times below their silver content value, so this guy is just mistaken
Diablo-D3: since the opening of the fed, we're at like, what, $1 USD = 3 cents?
truffles: is that why you want to end paper currency?
Diablo-D3: Im totally use to coins that are worth far more than their face value
Diablo-D3: Namworld: the second part makes much more sense
pankkake: so this coin is interesting only for a canadian anyway
nubbins`: pankkake: but it's legal tender. they can't refuse it
nubbins`: pankkake: they might have to call a manager over
Diablo-D3: $100 of silver is destroyed, well, its going to cost money to fix
pankkake: ok maybe the bank
pankkake: nubbins`: well, I doubt they would accept it
nubbins`: or walk into a bank and deposit it to your account
Diablo-D3: Namworld: if a $100 gets ripped up, its easy to replace with a brand new bill
nubbins`: walk into a store and hand it to the cashier
pigeons: no the $20 worth of silver ones are marked $1. seriously
Diablo-D3: Namworld: well, to be fair, I _prefer_ the physical currency being worthless
pankkake: who gives you the $20 if you want them, the mint?
nubbins`: THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SO AWESOME
Diablo-D3: WHAT THE FUCK
Namworld: It's legal tender. It's like those worthless paper bills
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: they put $20 on $6 of silver?!
nubbins`: the mint makes them
nubbins`: it's legal tender
nubbins`: and that's why i find these coins so interesting
Diablo-D3: now, if it was a SILVER quarter, yes, it'd be nonsensical to write 25 cents on it
nubbins`: nonsensical for it to say 25 cents?
Diablo-D3: for anything but oz to be inscribed on a coin or bar is nonsensical
Diablo-D3: they are all the same thing
Diablo-D3: Namworld: no, oz IS the face value
Namworld: The face value is always completly unrelated to metal contents
truffles: would be nice to lug around silver coins everywhere too
Diablo-D3: yes, and if it was steel, 1 oz of steel would be the denomination
nubbins`: well, see, that's what's funny about these 20 for 20/100 for 100 coins
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: face values are lol to me
nubbins`: i guess i'm mildly confused about the lol
nubbins`: find me a coin with a face value equal to its silver content
nubbins`: Namworld: they make SO MANY coins. Didja see all the superman ones?
nubbins`: and the $20 for $20 silver coins are, i think, 1/4oz
nubbins`: pankkake: yep, it's an oddity in that regard
Diablo-D3: they're only worth the metal
Diablo-D3: Namworld: yeah and the hilarious part is
pankkake: oh, so there's a face value that is actually higher than the silver value?
Namworld: The canadian mints makes WAY too many coins.
nubbins`: but they're sold at face value, so there's no risk of losing money on the deal
nubbins`: it's a poor price for the amount of silver
nubbins`: i have a few of these too: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/20-for-20-fine-silver-coin-iceberg-and-whale-2013-prod1690016?o_action=crossSell
pankkake: no, the command is latter tell
gribble: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
pankkake: ;;later tell
nubbins`: not to split hairs, but "later" obv is a valid command
nubbins`: ;;later tell chaang-noi http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/100-for-100-fine-silver-coin-the-grizzly-2014-prod1730001#.UkbtxmQiFKs
Graet: ;;later tell nubbins` more info needed
FabianB_: pigeons: i guess same url, tomorrow noon gmt
pigeons: is there a new url for mpex or still coming soon?
Diablo-D3: Namworld: yeah, theres only 4028 left
Diablo-D3: Namworld: you own 14% of DMC, I wonder who the other 86% is
Namworld: "[07:07] <Namworld> ok well I found what to liquidate.
ozbot: $100 for $100 Fine Silver Coin - The Grizzly (2014)
Apocalyptic: nope that's the link i was looking for, thanks !
Namworld: or you mean the google spreadsheet tools thread?
Apocalyptic: Namworld, do you have the link to your google spreadsheet ?
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Namworld: ok well I found what to liquidate.