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mircea_popescu: they are threatening criminal contempt. it's their only actual effectual means.
mircea_popescu: after which he won't give the keys because he's concerned the govt might imprison him by using those keys to read his email.s
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: IANAL, but i don't think you can do that in a civil action
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform finally, what i don't understand in this whole thing, is why didn't the guy just take the 5th ?
mircea_popescu: dependso n how you got the key.
Vexual: and its not illegal to unlcok the door if you have the key?
asciilifeform: it reflects the actual policy of the actual rulers. no surprises here.
mircea_popescu: such despicable tactics for srsly.
mircea_popescu: except they're asking for copies to the front door keys, not for the front door t obe unlocked.
mircea_popescu: for instance a warrant for the search of all cars in new york "to see if there's anything fishi going on" is not general as long as there;s a dept of transportation rule against people being assholes on the road.
asciilifeform: well yeah, he used the 'apartment house' analogy
mircea_popescu: according to this nutjob a search is not general if it is objectively general as long as there's some sort of theoretical limitation on the generality.
asciilifeform: I do wonder why anybody bothered with the 'lettre du cachet', the wiki crap was the equivalent of a winamp playlist
mircea_popescu: dude this is certainly a novel argument.
mircea_popescu: if abused Contrrary to law, could constitute a general search."
mircea_popescu: "It cannot be that a search warrant is "general" merely because it gives the government a tool that,
asciilifeform: the idiot wiki-printers still have this crap
mircea_popescu: recreate those articles lol
mircea_popescu: actually here's a great idea to troll wikipedia
asciilifeform: the names/abstracts, that is, nobody save the owners have seen the algos
asciilifeform: funny part is that every 'spam wikipedia' (clone) still has them
mircea_popescu: got really excited about it all at the top cockless geek level.
mircea_popescu: yeah they got a letter of cachet
asciilifeform: and not one (save the ill-fated Skipjack) has ever seen the light of day
asciilifeform: btw I find it interesting that the names, brief histories, and approximate purposes of the 'Suite A' ciphers (nsa proprietary) used to be on wikipedia
mircea_popescu: they probably heard the exact same thing a thousand times so far.
mircea_popescu: which perhaps explains why there is no competence left in there.
mircea_popescu: all the time.
mircea_popescu: and leak all the keys
mircea_popescu: if i were the fuhrer of the nsa i would be putting backdoors in every single code or cypher used by the usg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you're probably right that this is a crackpot hypothesis, it presumes competence where, as far as we know, none is left
asciilifeform: there's more than one way to steer people away from modern crypto
asciilifeform: if you were the fuhrer of NSA, and your minions have not yet found a pill against rsa/etc., what would you do?
mircea_popescu: this is like inquiring who wins out of the roman notion that blowjobs cause cavities.
asciilifeform: the lusers driven off lavabit likely won't be using gpg, they'll be dropping plaintext (or going home and crying.)
mircea_popescu: the way the french were in the 70s.
mircea_popescu: it's a disgrace, they'll get cut out of nato meetings at this rate
mircea_popescu: what i want to know is why the us signals corps is made out of monkeys!
asciilifeform: AFAIK, the only reason i have to consider the 'disinfo' hypothesis is the actual effects of the circus
mircea_popescu: in short, whether the gas station theft was genuine or staged,
mircea_popescu: the story still goes the way describe it.
asciilifeform: easy to set things up so some fool walks off with 'everything he wants'
asciilifeform: he needn't be aware of the fact, either
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: have you considered the 'mr. s. is a disinfo agent' hypothesis?
asciilifeform: point. betcha the Brits finished all the Lagavulin when Mitrokhin split with his treasure chest.
mircea_popescu: in what parallel universe is this going on.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude, srsly. you're a field agent and you "try to" persuade ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, if this had happened in 1973 the russians would have finished all the vodka and died of split sides.
asciilifeform: there is some record that he tried to persuade the journalists to use gpg
asciilifeform: it is possible that he did know. but was forced to deal with people who don't
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is going on over there, those people been turned to monkeys or something ?
mircea_popescu: yet he has enough data to bury another petreus.
mircea_popescu: apparently snowden does not know how to secure communications.
asciilifeform: in the u.s., the way it works is that there's a 'secret' (vs. 'top', etc.) intranet
mircea_popescu: grunts do not get access to petabytes of crap
mircea_popescu: dude, he had the stuff ? he was a big honcho.
mircea_popescu: so bradley manning, a total emo fuckwit, somehow managed to be a big honcho in us signals.
mircea_popescu: i still don't quite grasp this part.
asciilifeform: so we're left with the snowdens and ulbrichts (who become public fools) and the rest (who are invisible.)
asciilifeform: there's also the issue of people who are literate enough to have some idea of what real security is, but not literate enough to practice it.
mircea_popescu: well, other than snowden
mircea_popescu: that's the other thing. what sort of braindamaged retard actually expects ssl to protect his email.
asciilifeform: you know, if the key is genuine (no bits diddled) the inquisitor got much of what he wanted. safe to assume that every packet lavabit shat or ate in its entire life was recorded.
mircea_popescu: the man sent the 4 point 11 pages key.
asciilifeform: I'd like to point out that we do not yet know how the Levison story ends.
mircea_popescu: finally those with neither quality. they end up judges.
mircea_popescu: basically the kids out of law school split in three groups : those who deal well with people, and they end up lawyers. those who have daddy issues, and they become das.
mircea_popescu: Vexual the strange thing is that in civil systems it's precisely the uncooperative lawyers that tend to become judges.
mircea_popescu: i don't know what exactly is modern about him ? the rolls are full since at least the 1300s with the same type.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the happy brigade has uncovered a bunch of negative reviews. seems this hilton guy is really very pro govt ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you remember Roland Freisler? perhaps he was the first truly modern judge.
mircea_popescu: they didn't magically become trotsky.
mircea_popescu: you know what, in russia cca 1930 there were a bunch of fuckwits with round glasses and a tufty chin beard.
asciilifeform: plenty of fellows with the inclinations, sans the gifts.
mircea_popescu: stalin was a man after my own heart. you can not find someone half stalin in the entire us today.
mircea_popescu: listen, you take too much for granted.
asciilifeform: I don't expect to grow old myself, and I'm not even remotely a judge. Dissenting or otherwise.
asciilifeform: I'm rather pessimistic about their prospects in the far future, particularly the younger ones
asciilifeform: I was thinking of the 'good ones', if that wasn't clear
asciilifeform: these fellows will probably end up on some dour memorial plaque somewhere, maybe glued to the wall where the firing squad stood
mircea_popescu: i'd love to see whether the numerous and very self-important "law blogs" get it or not and how long it takes them to.
asciilifeform: Don't get me wrong, I'd love to read the result
mircea_popescu: this is merely a minute attempt to remedy an information imbalance.
mircea_popescu: they have the time and inclination to compile tax harassment programmes for charities for chrissakes.
mircea_popescu: don't for a second imagine the bad boys don't keep that list.
asciilifeform: I'm thinking also about the side-effects. Imagine printing a list of foot-dragging German judges in the '30s.
mircea_popescu: at any rate, as far as i know the average grad student takes a few months to gather 25 btc in living grants/we, and if literate should be able to complete the task in that time.
mircea_popescu: society, at least the livable sort, is built from causes not towards effects.
mircea_popescu: so you have the list.
mircea_popescu: so correspondingly more resources should be directed to fight the former than the later, by a significant margin.
mircea_popescu: i am certainly more interested in judges being raped by the usg than in secretaries being raped by their bosses.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: think of Soviet judges.
mircea_popescu: whereas women that suck cock have a less than twice as better chances to progress.
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure it will come out that the judges that play ball have about an order of magnitude better chances to progress.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aside from historical/nostalgic concerns, what would be the purpose of having the list of judges ?
dub: has the patented intersango 'we'll pay you to return our data' method brought a result
dub: I have no time for drama these days :(
dub: how sails the forum lulzboat?
mircea_popescu: provided of course some retard venue will still exist in the future...
mircea_popescu: just building the crumb of trails for future mpoe-pr bitchslappings.