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mircea_popescu: mod6 http://trilema.com/2013/so-this-urbit-thing/#comment-95448 << average people have trouble FINDING IT
mod6: the guy says, "urbit will always run on top of unix." but d00d also wants this to surpass *nix at some point...
mod6: its like i wanna go down this rabbit hole and figure this thing out, but I don't think im smart enough or something.
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mod6: this urbit thing is wacky
mircea_popescu: i suspect this is currently the largest productivity sink in it.
mod6: there is another that seems to try to translate scribbles to runes, but I haven't gotten it to work on my vim yet.
mod6: just a vim script for unix so the syntax can be color-highlighted. didn't mean to get yall excited.
mircea_popescu: wait, does this mean a vim implementation ?
mod6: cool, there is a hoon.vim
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.75000, Best ask: 136.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 135.75000, 24 hour volume: 6768.60069259, 24 hour low: 134.10000, 24 hour high: 139.00000, 24 hour vwap: 136.55720
mod6: heheh, well since x86 intel, its not been nearly as widely used. i think that network addresses are all passed in lsb though, and then they added htonl/s ntohl/s for translation, etc.
mircea_popescu: i thought they're unconstitutional anyway
mod6: i haven't used an LSB system since i worked on porting fbsd to sparc64
jurov: decided to do some overdue upgrades instead...got unexpected 50% cpu usage decrease :)
mod6: ahh. im trying to familiarize myself with these 'runes'
jurov: no only read these docs and filed it for later
mod6: i figure, maybe they can help my urbit n00bness until i get my sealegs.
mod6: CY said he didn't want to do an irc channel because urbit can be sort of like IRC in and of itself. but in the mean time he'll set one up until it gets further along.
mod6: haha, nice. i just joined in over there a few mins ago too.
mod6: i wanna say that happened a few times even.
mircea_popescu: because the guy had all the btc in the cloud and lost the instance.
mircea_popescu: or no wait. what was it, that polish exchange that mtgox boight
mircea_popescu: when was the last time, say, a Google app lost your data?
mod6: yeah, thats pretty awesome.
mircea_popescu: This will replace all the Arvo code, including Hoon in Hoon itself, and keep your data intact - even running processes.
mod6: aight, now that i've got this thing back to non-suck mode...
mod6: im gonna quit this shit and go work at walmart selling plants.
mod6: well, either do i. i was just trolled by jurov.
mod6: im not sure what to think about this thing yet.
mod6: i tried to find a solution to this problem on the fuckin google groups thing and there was a thread about it.
mircea_popescu: well i guess i get to use kako's bash for the first time ever.
mod6: im a dumbass for listening to you
mod6: yeah, it seems that this guy Curtis Yarvin kinda goes against the grain with this one. im not a haskell guy or what not, so I'm not real sure what to think just yet.
mircea_popescu: violence is not the loop.
jurov: au! don't tell me you *did* recompile it?
jurov: mod6 yeah trolling... couldn't resist as long-time gentoo user :)
mod6: Perform the optimization of loop unrolling. This is done for all loops and usually makes programs run more slowly. `-funroll-all-loops' implies `-fstrength-reduce' as well as `-frerun-cse-after-loop'.
mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, i recloned the repos and rebuilt. works fine. it's early in the project so, yeah shit happens.
mod6: jurov: you trollin'?
mircea_popescu: but anyway ; satoshi forked btc too. it happens
mircea_popescu: well at least 11k people have watching and thus therefore everyone knows the guy's name and admires his work or how did it go.
mod6: yeah, that was pretty interesting. like the first day I look into it, i have to blow everything away and start over.
mircea_popescu: (TLDR: to keep using Urbit, delete all your pre-10/6 data, git pull the source again, make clean, make, and start over. Your destroyers and tickets will keep working. No, this will not keep happening, though it may happen once or twice again.) << preserved for futurosity.
mircea_popescu: probably some dolphin somewhere upset the flow of chi
mircea_popescu: mod6 well when the whole planet is one computer...
mod6: (was worse before the update it seems to me... but still laaags a bit.)
mod6: I rebuild my sub just a bit ago because of this (http://www.urbit.org/2013/10/06/nicu.html), seems to be a bit more responsive.. but not what i would expect.
mod6: has anyone had trouble with the urbit terminal being like really slow?
mod6: benkay_: Ahh, I've read more now on the urbit. I see what you mean by the 9-times thing as temporary. And after reading Datskovskiy's comments it's interesting that it was put in to begin with.
mircea_popescu: it's a total timescam.
mircea_popescu: it's like... two weeks normal time turn into 18 months of bitbet time.
jurov: bitbet time runs too fast
mircea_popescu: aww no, there WAS.
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mircea_popescu: jurov o hey, there was a bet to that effect too
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gribble: Bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 12 hours, 7 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> So the mechs thing was a hoax or waht?
Diablo-D3: but... Ive been here! the whole time!
Diablo-D3: <friedcat> WHO TOUCH SASHA
VanCleef: and asicminer tanks haha
VanCleef: ITS BACK MP ITS BACK, thank christ
kakobrekla: a i see he is here too, k
kakobrekla: who is Tyrion
blastbob1: yea Tyrion and me
blastbob1: yea, got messy in the racks
kakobrekla: shame you have to have external ugly atx psu
blastbob1: so it killed the fuse on the PSU
blastbob1: had problem with the recommended 850w choice
blastbob1: have 27 in total
kakobrekla: so you ordered like 9 of those ?
nubbins`: are they expected to ROI? i seem to recall figuring at one point that people would need them in-hand in september in order to break even
dexX7_: this is one of the newest clues: (from the frist q&a on aug 8 - still needs confirmation) [11:41:30] * labcoin_dev (~alberto@host173-29-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #labcoin
dexX7_: all that above is speculation though
kakobrekla: though i made that joke a while ago
kakobrekla: i know all about AA and his failures, even spoke to him on skype a year or so ago, total retard
kakobrekla: 2. AA goes to jail
kakobrekla: i hope two things happen here,
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kakobrekla: to the guys
dub: bitscalper, bit day trade, etc
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
jborkl: Ther are two units reported burned from what I can see
jborkl: I think shipped miner, I found it on their forum posted by a regular user
kakobrekla: where is this from jborkl, their lab or shipped miner?
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: i ended up buying the row house with the schizophrenic hooker w/ tourette's next door, so uh, victory nubbins`
nubbins`: no light fixtures, just hooks in the ceiling and ventilation everywhere
nubbins`: yeah, i've seen a few houses with "rooms" in the basement
dub: I put an offer on one where they'd left grow lights behind in the basement
nubbins`: one house had a moat cut into the concrete slab in the basement
nubbins`: man, when i was in the market for a house, i saw some crazy shit
jurov: and horse, too
jurov: http://31.media.tumblr.com/ce83f6c430336d4551704835f4617b6c/tumblr_msg5kgiXox1rrqskho1_500.jpg i like this vampire one
ThickAsThieves: it's not enough to tell every bitcoin thing how it should be working, now they will rate how well it does so
Apocalyptic: <KRS1> thats pretty deep // indeed
kakobrekla: it will if there will be a need for it
kakobrekla: i dont think mm is an issue
mircea_popescu: not large enough yet i don't think, and has other problems