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pankkake: "The value of Ven is determined on
the financial markets from a basket of currencies, commodities and carbon futures."
mircea_popescu: was
the herp-business nefario was discussing at his pre-sudden death conference
mircea_popescu: substantial discount if you get your vip seats
this year.
nubbins`: why don't
they just raise it
to infinity
ThickAsThieves: is
this what
the romanian btc conference will be like?
nubbins`: i dont get
this debt ceiling
thing
jborkl: yes,
they said
there were December orders
dexX7: well,
they are new and have no finished product yet
pankkake: yes.
though it isn't everything. and it seems
to be
their *only* way of saying
they're
the best
dexX7: according
to
their resume,
they are
the creme de la creme
dexX7: so
there were dec orders?
BingoBoingo: pankkake: You don't vote on bets, you bet on
them
pankkake: mircea_popescu: I
think
they will, but I'm
to going vote No as an hedge
mircea_popescu: <jborkl>
They say, shipping is December - Remember I am not promoting or pumping anything- just
telling you what I went by and saw
ThickAsThieves: i
thought
the whole point of btc investing was
to profit by mistake?
pankkake: no but see, I wrote
the bet, except
the last part
mircea_popescu: ya next
time don't win on bets you didn't read carefully.
dexX7: then you should have read
the bet more carefully?
mircea_popescu: moar like "red sox will win world series,
this bet resolves as no if world series doesn't exist anymoar"
ThickAsThieves: Red Sox will win world series,
this bet resolves as No if Bitfunder closes
mircea_popescu: i suppose it can be remade
to reference bitfunder isntead
pankkake: I regret promoting a bet I didn't specify fully
then
mircea_popescu: pankkake welcome
to bitbet, a game of unpredictable consequences.
pankkake: still a very bad way
to handle
things
pankkake: now people are going
to be angry at me
pankkake: it was on BitFunder at
the
time, and still is
pankkake: eh…
that certainly wasn't my intent when creating
the bet
ThickAsThieves: "Should btct.co disappear before
that date or should proof emerge of btct.co failure
to pay any liquid and exigible debt
to any investor
this bet resolves as No."
pankkake: there are some fiat exchanges supporting it. but it's just one step anyway, so why would it change
that much?
ThickAsThieves: the only
thing litecoin has left going for it is for a major exchange
to support it
pankkake: the good
thing about
that rising difficulty, is
that now bitcoin = litecoin
nubbins`: "oh,
that's only
three blocks away"
pankkake: what can you do if your ETA is really
two weeks? say 14 days?
dexX7: maybe you should work on a better promotion/presentation. it is indeed a good idea, but "wtf is bitbet, why is
this relevant"
pankkake: the bet is all-or-nothing
though
mircea_popescu: that'd allow
the customers
to buy insurance, at a market-established fair premium
kakobrekla: people
themself allow
this
to happen
to
themself
kakobrekla: preorders allow for
that risk
to be mitigated
pankkake: the manufacturer pays
the insurer, and gets its money back if it ships on
time?
pankkake: what I have in mind is
that
the companies finance
the
thing, but it's a pool;
that way customers can feel safe even if
the companies go bankrupt
ThickAsThieves: the problem being addresses is
that
these companies are putting all risks onto
the customers
pankkake: probably, except not really
tied
to a hardware release
jborkl: isnt
that just mining diff futures?
pankkake: maybe customer protection should be provided by a
third party
pankkake: jborkl: well,
they have preorders, so maybe only for new orders
pankkake: yes, still half screwed is better
than fully screwed?
ThickAsThieves: the point here isnt
to drive
the company into
the ground
jborkl: If
they actually make
this chip, BFL is screwed (like
they were not before?)
pankkake: I'm not sure it would be better for customers -
they would get nothing
jborkl: I was
told
the deal I could get, and I
think I could do a little better even
ThickAsThieves: "I can't wait
to see where share price goes once we list on a new exchange, and as we get closer and closer
to delivery"
pankkake: oh, right, I confused
thirty and
thirteen
jborkl: Chips are supposed
to be from (700 grade a
to 500 grade d) I assigned
the a-d values myself
jborkl: I did not ask
that question
jborkl: The units I saw (final design I
think) has liquid cooling standard - has 2 900 w power supplies and draws at
the wall approx 1300
pankkake: they do, and
their initial plan was
to do only
that