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Namworld: This logic is flawed. Any entity wishing
to comply
to regulations should attempt
to close properly. Which certainly doesn't entail voiding existing contracts and pocketing assets.
That may only hurt your plans.
Namworld: Void? What about
the holdings? You can't pocket
them for yourself.
Maraneth: Does anyone know how
to change passthrough shares into direct shares?
dub: I like how
theymos hasn't mentioned
the hack or recommended changing passwords in any comms
to users
Diablo-D3: its actually on
the damned website
Diablo-D3: can someone
tell me where hes quoting
that from?
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KRS1: and
they're actually quite pleasant and polite. Can't say
the same for
those form Somalia.
nubbins`: i better get some btc ready
to send
nubbins`: oh hey a new personal message from
the bitcointalk.org forums!
nubbins`: ;;later
tell mircea_popescu check your email when you get a chance; further evidence as
to why i leave
the artwork
to others ;(
dub: sad part is if
these fucks could find someone
that speaks english
that shit would probably yield with 80% of
the forum
tards
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kakobrekla: i
think
theres new phishing email going around
Namworld: idk, make a script and scout
the blockchain for said clue
Namworld: Probably most of
the BTC was invested by owners
mircea_popescu: which is generally and universally a very easy claim
to make.
mircea_popescu: except
the scams didn't collect far more,
they claimed
to have collected far more.
Diablo-D3: well, I guess
thats
the end of
the DMC buyback.
Namworld: Would it really be surprising considering
the scam IPOs which collected far more?
Namworld: They have 10000 BTC according
to
their website stats (1 million USD + 2000 BTC)
mircea_popescu: anyone can print any numbers
they want on
their own website.
mircea_popescu: Namworld i can confidently say
their volume is < 100 btc.
dub: do
they have backups?
mod6: dont get zhou
tonged
Namworld: Also pretty much stole
their source code...
Namworld: I'm just
too afraid
to use it knowing
they used Bitcoinica's source code.
Namworld: Well
there's enough liquidity for it
to work for any margin
trader.
Namworld: Volume is a bit bigger
than before. I'd say it's decent.
Namworld: They changed
the interface. It's quite decent now.
Namworld: It's bigger
than icbit.se if I'm not mistaken.
Namworld: Bitfinex volume isn't
that low.
There's like 1 million usd and 2000 BTC loaned out for margin
trading right now.
mircea_popescu: couldn't have been
that many
trades anyone, someone'd have noticed/bitched.
Namworld: Well not
the full day. I guess for like a few hours, not sure.
Namworld: Now he has
to fix
trading fees
that were charged
Namworld: He had
trades working back in order in less
than 10 minutes from being notified.
mircea_popescu: Namworld in
the catatonic state it's in it can last indefinitely. icbit.se is still around
too.
Namworld: And he'll fix
the
thing and refund fees, any mishaps like
this costs him in credibility and
trading volume.
Namworld: Now
to see how long it lasts. I'm curious
Lennix1: well namworld I don't want
to disillusionate you, but it seems
that
the only
thing Ukto is doing, is watching his pile of bitcoins grow and grow
Namworld: Guess
they managed
to outdo
their predecessor.
Namworld: So
the input submiting your
trade as
the user you're buying from... well
then
that can only possibly let you know
that seller's amount of shares and
that's it.
Namworld: Well I guess after a
trade, it redirects you back
to
the asset page and loads info for user which submited
the
trade.
jborkl_: So
the bitbet resolved double yes, other exchanges will shutter by
the end of
the year
Namworld: Thus maybe why it
then returned you and loaded
that party info
Namworld: And apparently made you buy as
that other party you're buying from when inputing a buy order
Namworld: Possibly... but changing page restored your own info.
The front-end only loaded
the other party's info
to you after you executed a
trade.
mircea_popescu: if i could see
the shares of a
third party, could i perhaps withdraw for a 3rd party ?
Namworld: But nothing keeps
the front-end from sending incorrect
trades
that are valid according
to back-end's data
Namworld: Is my understanding of
the system.
Namworld: My guess is
the front end retrieves data from
the back-end
to display on
the page, and send requests
to
the back-end which process it.
The back-ends has lots of checks.
Namworld: When
the back-end never actually processed
Namworld: Actually
the front-end often shows wrong stuff,
trades, etc
mircea_popescu: it seems improbable
there's a frontend/trade engine separation
mircea_popescu: judging by
the fact
that
this frontend knew
the counterparties
to
trades,
Namworld: Ukto puts
too much
time on
the
trading engine side and not enough on
the front end with user inputs.
Lennix1: and
thus bitfunder is great?
Namworld: So far, no issues on
the
trading engine side it seems, ever
dexX7: i
think so, or i probably visited when it showed something romanian.
though i wasn't
that interested at
this point
to dig deeper.
Namworld: I doubt it. It's a frontend bug. He doesn't
test front-end enough I guess. Nothing keeps front-end from sending bad
trades at
the
trading engine.
Lennix1: with
the blatant incompetence of Ukyo/Ukto
there will be no fight. Ukyo/Ukto will kill himself
dexX7: last year, when i didn't know much about bitcoin and browsed btctalk mostly because of "x got hacked" news, i somehow ended up on
trilema (-pr did a good job, i guess) everytime and was wondering "what is
this cryptic language and why is
this guy using a picture of himself as background" ... interesting how everything
turned out a year later.
mircea_popescu: wow... someone actually
thinks
the ceiling gets lifted.
thestringpuller: lol looks like
there will be blood 2 is gonna resolve soon
asa1024: i just keep my mouth shut and watch what other people have
to say
Namworld: Considering I started early 2012, a while after learning about Bitcoin from an article about
the 2011 autumn crash
mircea_popescu: Namworld makes you better
than nefario & burnside so far.
asa1024: i've had fun
the past year
mircea_popescu: i am amused at
the noobs
that still don't grasp why
their average bitcoin lifespan is less
than a year.
☟︎ Namworld: It is. I guess Ukto will have
to refund all
trading fees for
the day. Cause many fees where obviously not necessary.
Namworld: Short: Filling ask makes seller buy from himself and
then shows you seller's stats
Namworld: So...
there's been a bug all day on BitFunder where... when you filled a ask, it made
the seller buy from his own ask, and
then showed you his amount of shares on
the page after
trade executed.
nubbins`: anyway it
turns out
that a convincing RJ connector is actually pretty difficult
to draw
dexX7: everytime i asked in
the past, if you were sacrastic, you denied.. so i assumed you are always
talking serious :p
Lennix1: if you'd drop
that ridicolous fee and modernized your page a bit, you could get
that volume easily
mircea_popescu: anyway, i gotta confess i'm kinda jealous of all
that btctc volume and shit.