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Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: yeah, I think inflation works better
mircea_popescu: dexX7 people say many things. meanwhile, 16gb boards aren't too expensive
dexX7: mircea_popescu: i just wanted to exploit this rare situation of "lecturing you" :) scrypt is designed in a way that the bottleneck is rather the amount of fast accessible memory than computational speed and people say "litecoin is fpga/asic resistant" for that reason
mircea_popescu: while it's a good idea to try it so it's trioed, im convinced demurage is a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: is that the demurage thing ?
Luke-Jr: they seem to be clueful
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: if you want to argue that, use freicoin as an example :p
nubbins`: i thought btc was a prototype for mastercoin
mircea_popescu: the idea is it may be made to work if need be.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr depends how hardcore do yo uwant to get. one could say bitcoin isn't really a bitcoin either, just a dumb prototype.
pankkake: mircea_popescu: yes, while I used to think that, litecoin isn't a different implementation
Luke-Jr: if SHA256d breaks, it does too since it uses it for everything but the POW
MTBmanTT: ah, I just figured it was there to make GPUs feel useful again, to in turn exchange for btc..... but that sounds more reasonable
mircea_popescu: obviously idiots flock there just like they flock to btc. ltc has the disadvantage that it gets all the idiots that got broken uin btc, too
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: there's no reserve implementation in litecoin, it's just a dumb clone
mircea_popescu: MTBmanTT basically it makes sense on some level to have a reserve implementation.
MTBmanTT: I just dont understand the "push" with ltc- being a n00b to this world, ive never heard of it until the BTC forums.
mircea_popescu: well i guess more research is needed here. i can't readily point to proof.
pankkake: well, some people just like to watch the world burn
Luke-Jr: pankkake: the hope with that one instance was that it'd deter the scammers
Luke-Jr: pankkake: waste of my time
pankkake: but if you create a pool to destroy altcoins I'd mine on it… if I actually had anything capable of :)
pankkake: Luke-Jr: well the rumor is there!
mircea_popescu: by the same rationale, a good pricing for the radeons would be 50 cents a piece.
Luke-Jr: pankkake: mircea_popescu is a troll; my pool was not involved
nubbins`: what, you mean there isn't an insatiable demand for used gfx cards that have been melting themselves mining btc for the past few years?
mircea_popescu: now i understand whty all the noob fury for pushing ltc : it allows them to live the illusion that their worthless gear is to be counted at 450 a board.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the notion that 1k diff is worth 10mn in gear is ludicrous.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 i've not been paying much attention to ltc since prolly 2012
pankkake: and thus you need half of that to attack it
pankkake: so that should be an investment of 17 155 800 USD is behind the network ($450 per card for counting the other components)
mircea_popescu: what, nobody cared to make fpgas yet ?!
pankkake: I tried to guess the cost, estimated litecoin's power to 38124 Radeon 7970
mircea_popescu: so it'd cost me what, 0.1 btc/hour to maintain a 51% attack on ltc indefinitely ?
pankkake: but I wouldn't do that
mircea_popescu: pankkake Luke-Jr became famous through doing the same thing coupla years ago. or trying... i don't recall if he succeeded.
mircea_popescu: is there any hax in here to see ltc diff ?
pankkake: my reservations are mostly technical
mircea_popescu: eh forget it. ltc is not to blame that it attracts idiots.
pankkake: "silver to gold"
pankkake: I'd like to start a 51% attack pool. the only goal is to destroy
mircea_popescu: lol @best marketing phrase. what is it, litecoin makes your tits float ?
ozbot: i'd like to buy some Hashing power hashing for FTC
mircea_popescu: <pigeons> its not the first scrypt coin with no premine, that was fairbrix, and coblee started litecoin cause fairbrix got 51%ed too many times << few know this
pankkake: I do follow some altcoin development - even donated to some ;)
pankkake: it would have to be something truly unfixable in Bitcoin
skinnkavaj: pankkake: Do you believe any altcoin is going to succeed?
pankkake: still, there are reasons for these metals to be sold because of their industrial use; while digital tokens are digital tokens
nubbins`: asciilifeform: its also the national drink of peru
skinnkavaj: Yeah I bet silver lost in USD value in the long run
asciilifeform: nubbins`: incacola is a cheapo soda sold in the u.s.
pankkake: coming back to silver and gold: both were used as monetary backing, but silver lost that privilege; silver lost a lot of value
pankkake: but it isn't, both are digital tokens
skinnkavaj: Think of BTC like Coca Cola and think of LTC like Pepsi
pankkake: well, be *very* careful with that silver to gold. when silver got demonetized, it lost a lot of its value
pigeons: litecoin is the new black
skinnkavaj: pankkake: No its based on that it has the most acceptance and the best marketing phrase of all.
pigeons: second biggest hashcash network on the internet
pankkake: "If there is any altcoin that is going to succeed, it is LTC" this is endlessly repeated with no basis at all
pigeons: just tryin to keep it real
pigeons: add an adjective to second bigges ___ network on the internet
skinnkavaj: If there is any altcoin that is going to succeed, it is LTC
skinnkavaj: pigeons: Yes and it survived and is the second biggest network on the internet
pigeons: its not the first scrypt coin with no premine, that was fairbrix, and coblee started litecoin cause fairbrix got 51%ed too many times
pankkake: I hope for you it's the latter
skinnkavaj: ozbot: Lol. Look at all altcoins, litecoin is the number 1 in acceptance overall. Piratebay and Wikileaks use it. Founder of it works in Coinbase. Mtgox is around the corner. It's the first scrypt coin with no premine (NVC). It has the marketing effect "Silver to Gold".
skinnkavaj: Making fun of himself in a Litecoin is dead thread
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 184.50082, Best ask: 184.73998, Bid-ask spread: 0.23916, Last trade: 184.74000, 24 hour volume: 11282.63857969, 24 hour low: 177.25000, 24 hour high: 186.12000, 24 hour vwap: 182.83954
Diablo-D3: then they all pulled their panties out of their twats
Diablo-D3: dexX7: yeah, until people realized Im still trading those out
dexX7: wasn't there already drama about keeping the am shares?
Diablo-D3: dexX7: I mean, Im shutting DMC down because the SEC has finally outlawed bitcoin companies
dexX7: report you at the bitcoin police?
Diablo-D3: even though Ive repeatedly explained to him that yochdog has not paid out anything nor has anyone purchased the btcmc debt from me
Diablo-D3: hes threatening to "report me"
dexX7: or let's say never heard anything bad about him besides trolling
dexX7: i don't think so?
mircea_popescu: yeah that one.
dexX7: the one with the ship and lack of real knowledge was awesome
mircea_popescu: sometimes i do but not this time
mircea_popescu: i didn't do that lol.
ozbot: Furthering the S.DICE / AM comparison
mircea_popescu: because all of the people who said ripple rocks on a forum
dexX7: digging out the old am comparison.. shame on you
mircea_popescu: dude im just totally bummed out that bitcoin lost
dexX7: what is this? necro hour?
pankkake: I guess litecoin is the new "cheap shares"
nubbins`: honestly not sure what would possess one to buy at $180+
skinnkavaj: nubbins`: That comes when price goes down
nubbins`: odd lack of "hold, spartans!!!" memes on /r/bitcoin this time around
blastbob: btc has much more to go
dexX7: to hedge or are you calling btc's top already?
skinnkavaj: dexX7: Thats my i am buying as many LTC as I can right now
dexX7: skinnkavaj: you should realize that litecoin goes down, when bitcoin goes up and vice versa. stop shilling in other channels.
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 183.00003, Best ask: 183.98992, Bid-ask spread: 0.98989, Last trade: 183.99995, 24 hour volume: 11528.30232733, 24 hour low: 175.10000, 24 hour high: 185.94300, 24 hour vwap: 181.72110
jurov: ;;later tell bitesak "if i'm not around pls email to support at coinbr"
KRS1: haha have we come to thaty
KRS1: prob just teh weekend maybe
KRS1: with this steady avg market price could we be due for a correction
pankkake: yeah, she doesn't risk having lint with that outfit