840800+ entries in 0.504s
mircea_popescu: it's one of
those rare bits written by a competent
translator, ie, one who has solid familiarity in
two different fields.
nubbins`: and
then i went off on a
tangent
nubbins`: i didn't get more
than a couple paragraphs into
that article
nubbins`: "this string of zeroes isn't 4'33, but
THIS string of zeroes *is*"
nubbins`: and put into
the context of 4'33 in
the article asciilifeform linked
nubbins`: i mean when you
take communion, you are, in
the view of
the church, literally eating
the body of christ
nubbins`: that's some seriously christian-based logic right
there
nubbins`: haha,
the color of bits re: 4'33
mod6: thats
the problem with hardware prng's,
they can always be
tampered with
KRS1-: doesn't
their filtering/diddling cause a delay with
time sensitive synchronization
mod6: when
that day comes, it'll be a great day for personal and ditital liberty.
mircea_popescu: maybe someone brings good quality hardware rngs
to
the masses.
mod6: what was
the one we were
talking about most recently?
the ECC backdoor?
mod6: the nsa
twisting nipples in enc algos and prngs is scary
though.
that stuff gets widespread.
mod6: no reason
to use
the stuff
that comes with backdoors from
these savages.
mod6: im paranoid enough as an american.
they've got everyone on
tap. if i was a forign int service, gov or private citizen, i'd boycott all us software, and rebuild.
mircea_popescu: rivkin's protestations
to
the contrary notwithstanding,
the us has managed
to drive itself into
this narrow ally where practically speaking china is it's closest ally.
mircea_popescu: mod6 mata hari was supposed
to die in her bed, except
they couldn't find it, so
they did
the next best
thing :
mircea_popescu: what's
this, infantry engagement ? spying is about information not killing people
mod6: mara hati was
the last?
mircea_popescu: the yurpeans are romantics,
they've not killed a spy since forever.
mircea_popescu: im
telling you, a lot has changed in
the past ~6 months, and a lot in
tjhe past 6 days.
mircea_popescu: why, even last year
the us could get away with kidnapping
the future president of france.
mircea_popescu: except in
this field
the eu has more money and more human capital.
mircea_popescu: actually
there's some
talk of
the eu making its own sigint and ditching nato
mod6: i wouldn't believe a goddamn word
these guys say,
they've always got
their fingers crossed.
mod6: maybe merkel needs
to fool 'em with some phonograph whitenoise records.
mircea_popescu: and no,
the recent spying scandals have cost
the us in europe more
than what clinton has managed
to build.
ozbot: SEC moves
toward allowing crowdfunding IPOs
kleeck: "Crowdfunding
today is rife with examples of consumers donating money
to entrepreneurs, only for
those people
to
take
the money without ever producing
the product or service
that was pitched."
kleeck: I just read
this gem of an article. Here's a very apt quote.
deadweasel: you believe whatever he
tells you
to believe.
mod6: if you're angla merkel, would you believe obama when he says
that he's not motitoring your phone calls?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 13.32992160 BTC
to 374`436 shares, 3560 satoshi per share
mod6: even if
the divs can be paid
through a broker, i suppose
that whatever float retained by
the owners would need
to be held somewhere, requiring an account.
mod6: you'd have
to discuss listing with mp. and if bitvps was relisted, im pretty sure
that at least
the ceo/cfo would need
to have an acct @ mpex
to pay divs etc.
assbot: Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it
that way?
phungus: and have been profitable
the whole year
phungus: we're even more solid
today
than we were
then
tho
phungus: we only got delisted because rg sold
the corp
to us and didn't
tell anyone which broke
the exchange rules
phungus: a $6500 fee
to join an exchange is a little excessive
though and I'm not sure but
that might be a show-stopper right
there
nubbins`: "I wonder whether one of
the
team should contact one of
the keyservers and request a dump of
their database. "
phungus: MPEX should offer us a sweet deal
to re-list... hint hint
phungus: I
think he's been overwhelmed by life recently
gribble: thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 18 hours, 12 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> vis-a-vis Namworld
the Canadian
mod6: ;;seen #bitcoin-assets
thestringpuller
ozbot: UPDATED SHIPPING NEWS | HashFast
Technologies
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 31.67198172 BTC
to 8`451 shares, 374772 satoshi per share
Apocalyptic: they male smart investments until one day
they don't...
mircea_popescu: i mean...
that in bitcoin crazy lalaland people like
that scam whose name escapes me now
take pride in 80% return rates is onme
thing. but mainstream ? just wow.
pankkake: well, kickstarter shows americans are happy
to lose
their money already :)
deadweasel: hopefully,
they will learn something and
teach
their kids and grandkids how
to not be defrauded. but it's more likely
they get drunk and beat
them instead.
deadweasel: because sweatshop kids wore
them first.
deadweasel: yes, we are wearing china's old
t-shirts.
mircea_popescu: you mean
the borrowed shirts
they currently wear ? or what "their" ?
deadweasel: crowdfunding americans are going
to lose
their shirts.
deadweasel: small
time is easier. many more, harder
to regulate, etc.
deadweasel: "This is not a good day for financially unsophisticated investors who will be
targeted unrelentingly by stock promoters."
ThickAsThieves: it will
turn "salami" scams, where small amounts are defrauded from investors, into
the new normal,"
ozbot: SEC moves
toward allowing crowdfunding IPOs
pankkake: I'm not sure central bank governor is a good
title. sounds like scammer mafia boss
dexX7: "the latter guy is uh, infamous in
the bitcoin world" :D
ozbot: Assessing
The State Of PGP Keys With Phuctor | Mike
the Crypto Goat
mircea_popescu: you mean nobody cares about yet another group of posers ?! but who could have imagiend
this!
benkay: tee hee us bitcoin "foundation" rejected like a
tryhard
benkay: "None of us, none of
the people in
that room want
to just accept
these kinds of conditions written in a
top-down fashion by
the Foundation
that is effectively
today a US foundation."
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