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mircea_popescu: yeah, but suppose it becomes law tomorrow that should your signature be forged, you're responsible as if you had signed.
nubbins`: not necessarily the most eager to embrace technology
nubbins`: well, there are plenty of judges that won't accept emailed documents but will accept faxes
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i wouldn't take the judge job w/o gpg sigs.
deadweasel: yes, wake up, the price is actually $33/btc
mircea_popescu: im curious how long before judges move to gpg sigs
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nubbins`: you just said two opposite things
nubbins`: well, that makes more sense now
mod6: oh thats the date, not the month. got it.
nubbins`: and so i'm left trying to decide just how greedy i am
nubbins`: but if i sit on them with the expectation that the trend continues, i risk losing out on potential gains as well
kakobrekla: its a copla of years chars since its started to chart
nubbins`: anyway, the dilemma is that if i sell this stack of btc now, i could lose out on potential gains if the trend continues to rise ☟︎
mod6: kakobrekla: i can't figure how those numbers are linear though
kakobrekla: horizontal is time
mircea_popescu: it'll be tough
mircea_popescu: on top of everything else however, like tech obsolesncence etc, the independent miners now also have the problem of dealing with people who mine for political rather than economic reasons
mod6: kakobrekla: what does the x axis rep? im cornfused.
mircea_popescu: mod6 which is why the rally.
nubbins`: i'm having trouble deciding how greedy to be
mod6: i've been thinking about this chart lately: http://blockchain.info/charts/miners-operating-profit-margin << even after the rally, look where it is.
b0n1: nubbins`, because i think there is great potential after the opening
nubbins`: ^ that's getting a bit ridiculous
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b0n1: nubbins`, maybe some cool sources to read a bit about that
mircea_popescu: yes yes. if you have a good opportunity they'll provide you goods. learn chinese, go hang out there fgor a year. it's a living.
nubbins`: b0n1: curious to know what you're getting at here
b0n1: or as mircea_popescu said any textile stuff. you could just go to a trading company that ship the stuff always straight to europe
b0n1: coingenuity, what do you think of jade?
mircea_popescu: on the internet every dog is the emperor of china.
mircea_popescu: start by getting the job of chinese foreign trade minister
b0n1: coingenuity, is it difficult to get the export authorization?
coingenuity: yeah, the gov buys a ton
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, china buys 100-150 tons a month. thanks to the jpm&co keeping the price low with their derivative trades,
mircea_popescu: yes, all hail b0n1, the new black gold market czar of china
coingenuity: you can bribe them and get an export authorization, or so i hear
coingenuity: bank of china is the only one allowed
coingenuity: you pay your 'tax' in the form of price-fixes by the government, which is the only authority allowed to sell/buy
coingenuity: b0n1: you can't import gold to china
b0n1: do you have to pay tax on gold in china?
nubbins`: "5-level eq, all tubes, sub-harmonic generator, and here's a usb port"
mircea_popescu: but speaking of gold, anyone saw the 2mn oz paper sale on the 11th ?
pankkake: nubbins`: exactly, and I already have tubes for my amp anyway ;)
mircea_popescu: think of dealing with the mob, it's how china handles its export business.
mircea_popescu: basically you need to sign an agreement that if you steal their money they'll kill you with knives.
b0n1: well but there are certainly high market entry barriers, right? Maybe you need licences that are difficult to get?
mod6: pankkake: seems like india has import controls, something like 15% tax on gold import
nubbins`: chinese t-shirts
mircea_popescu: as well as 90% of all the items you have seen today.
mircea_popescu: also, tshirts, electronic appliances of all kinds, small plastic toys
b0n1: jade? is there actually a market for jade in europe?
b0n1: what is a good chinese commodity for taking out and selling elsewhere more expensive
nubbins`: "yeah, i need some tubes"
nubbins`: pankkake: plus you could be all badass walking into the music store
topace: do the coinabul peeps every lurk on irc these days ?
pankkake: don't you have to smugle it? or it's india
mircea_popescu: go the other way.
pankkake: I like vacuum tubes for the looks basically :p I'd buy that kind of random number generator
b0n1: meaning to ship it out and sell it on for example european market
b0n1: is it profitable trading gold in china?
mircea_popescu: basically you put a diode into backwards mode and count the electrons that make it past the barrier
mircea_popescu: pankkake that's basically avalanche
pankkake: could a vacuum tube be used as an entropy source?
mircea_popescu: "Hey, Reddit, Ycombinator, and Metafilter readers! You know what, I'm proud that this article has become a benchmark, but I've written a lot of others I like too, some of them more recently than 2004. It would sure be nice if my other articles got some love instead of just this one being linked from a discussion every week."
mircea_popescu: get everyone drunk, person with worst score picks up the tab
mircea_popescu: if you make it a webservice this'll be a great group activity at april conference.
asciilifeform: not my idea. attributed to johnny von n, but i was given it by my brother, who plucked it from an ancient soviet textbook.
asciilifeform: you tell it if it was correct
dub: 20 years ago we could modulate an RF signal such that your skull would resonate a recognisable signal you would hear inside your head
mircea_popescu: nubbins` the interraction happens through em not airwaves.
asciilifeform: the way the game works:
asciilifeform: i did at one point, lost the code
nubbins`: contact mics are orders of magnitude more sensitive to touch vibration than air vibration
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you sghould make that a webservice.
dub: you're wrong but keep talking
nubbins`: yeah, what i'm saying is that you'd deafen me before the contact mic would pick up the audio from my stereo
dub: nubbins`: http://lifehacker.com/5852903/silence-noisy-neighbors-by-transmitting-signals-through-their-own-speakers is an example but it might be easier to just introduce a less than random noise floor
asciilifeform: nubbins`: anything attached to a human brain is a terrible source of entropy
nubbins`: they're almost completely insensitive to air vibrations. you'd need to have it in your hand
dub: I'd need to be a bit nearer to you but its doable
dub: is it still going to be random if I control input into the mic? because its trvial to do that remotely
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's horribly biased.
asciilifeform: if you're ok with a glacially-slow entropy source, just expose a DRAM chip to sunlight, with deliberately inadequate refresh cycles, wait for radiation bit-flippage.
nubbins`: just thinking out loud here
mircea_popescu: you're going the wrong way with the amplifiers
nubbins`: any amplifier would introduce its own brand of consistency to the signal, &c &c
nubbins`: yeah, guess that's the catch
asciilifeform: point is, a piece of garbage that may seem 'random' to the naked eye can have all kinds of nice predictable patterns if one knows where to look.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> on the surface it sounds great. rub the contact mic against any surface and get all the entropy you need << o no, not at all. you can't use such low bits.
nubbins`: well. incredibly sensitive to touch, incredibly insensitive to regular sources of sound
nubbins`: these things are incredibly sensitive though
asciilifeform: think of all the periodic audio where you now stand. pc fan. wind. your breath. etc
nubbins`: but i don't think it's quite that straight-forward
nubbins`: on the surface it sounds great. rub the contact mic against any surface and get all the entropy you need
asciilifeform: that's not even counting non-audio signals that the amp picks up (mains hum, for one)
asciilifeform: nubbins`: not that you can't use audio as an entropy seed, but most of it is incredibly periodic
mircea_popescu: for some values of useful. i prefer them to avalanche processes, but they have to be well filtered
nubbins`: hm, i wonder if a contact mic would be useful in the context of RNGs
asciilifeform: for the impatient: it wasn't about crypto per se, but still mandatory.