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nubbins`: guess they're having problems :p
nubbins`: gribble: MtGox lag is 580874.405675 seconds. During this time, light travels 1164.06580518 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU).
gribble: MtGox lag is 1.011352 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00202673808434 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
nubbins`: will do, pretty hectic these days but i'm sure i can find somewhere to set a board up
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: PM me if you want to start a game.
nubbins`: i've just been printing flat ones on cotton rag so far, but i'm hoping to try printing directly to wood soon
BingoBoingo: Yeah they do. Finding decent glue to hold the pieces is another challenge though.
nubbins`: regulation-size boards are huge. they make for good wall art
nubbins`: i've printed chessboards, too
nubbins`: used to play via SMS with a friend who moved away. two boards + algebraic notation ;)
BingoBoingo: Anyone in this channel play chess at all?
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: How are the ones who sold at 4+ doing though... Sometimes that lack of a proper market helps enrich the tards.
nubbins`: all those guys who bought AM shares at 4+ must be fitting themselves for ropes right now
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I understand. I need to blog moar.
mircea_popescu: im a one chan type of guy.
mircea_popescu: quote of the day
mircea_popescu: ense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”
mircea_popescu: “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their s
nubbins`: has the room filled up with vibrations yet?
BingoBoingo: I'll search the logs, might be a while. Or maybe I'm trippin balls. Probably the latter.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ah, I though you said sometime you had stopped by to visit.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: When's the last time you were on TradeFortress's CoinChat?
mircea_popescu: list of bizarre sex articles on trilema someone may want to translate : http://trilema.com/2011/abuzul-si-fetele/ ; http://trilema.com/2011/moment-de-intimitate-n-baie/ ; http://trilema.com/2011/momentary-ebullution-of-intimacy/
nubbins`: darryl strawberry was on the simpsons once
nubbins`: never had it change color like this before
mircea_popescu: a guy with a name like darryl strawberry should be involved in the child sex trade, not fucking drugs
BingoBoingo: dub: More like baller turned crackhead, turned regular at the local hooters, but still.
nubbins`: hmm, this new purple emulsion we bought has turned brown
dub: sounds like an all american story, baller turned crackhead turned pastor
dub: yeah with all kinds of shit thrown in for extra bang (heroin is popular)
BingoBoingo: dub: Most MDMA isn't pure though. It actually gets less pure when powdered and refered to as "Molly"
dub: pure mdma in the vein is pretty interesting too
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, there have been some in North America too. It is a situation where differing definitions of recovery and diagnoses conflict. I've had a cousin who while in the service got an AIDs shot in an experiment and still has something resembling an immune system though, so...
dub: mdma is considered perfectly safe and quite useful for a number of things
asciilifeform: nobody took the offer because, as i understand, grunts didn't want to burn through their paid leave.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i believe those were the 'limited studies.'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ketamine as well as Molly test rather well for that purpose in limited studies.
mircea_popescu: o wait, they gave it to you
asciilifeform: afaik it (ketamine, not malaria) was being tried as a 'ptsd' cure.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i meant the ketamine
dub: theres a pretty narrow band in whih ketamine is 'fun' a lot of users know this and avoid it
asciilifeform: easy to get. they stuff an arm into a sort of chamber filled with 'anopheles.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can't be that hard to get ?!
asciilifeform: dub: there were also ads for 'agree to be given malaria.' ☟︎
BingoBoingo: SOunds more like testing dub
asciilifeform: most of the 'take a phone #' tabs remained in place. very few takers.
mircea_popescu: how would you pick who to send them to then
asciilifeform: phun phact: one of my old workplaces, a military lab, had ads hanging in the lounges, offering decent $ (around a thousand if i recall) for being given ketamine.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe only make one or two bombs then.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: I just might be able to. I actually think I auth'd with gribble last Wednesday.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they'd probably think it's a bomb.
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: that's a lot of Cardanos ;)
nubbins`: can you gpg sign your whereabouts on the evening of the 16th?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And that is why GPG is great. It forces the removal of "allegedly" or forgery.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No, sometimes they are drunks. Othertimes they are too paranoid to trust their counsel. Any of those three reasons though might have saved the fatso running Gox.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: either that, or they plead not-guilty
nubbins`: hell, if i had a dollar for every time i achieved complete awareness
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wait, that's the explanation of the bizarre written style some people employ filling any discussion of their past with "allegedly" ? they're pill poppers ?
BingoBoingo: Once they take you further than that... You have to start hedging vague memories of a past you with the word allegedly.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: They only make you sleepy until they take your further than sleepy.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is an anesthetic, but more than anything exotic it has a good feel. If I was picking an antihistamine to be addicted to I'd probably go with mirtazapine.
mircea_popescu: dub i could swear they used it as antihistamine here in the 90s
nubbins`: forgot that "sleep" is a euphemism in pet-world
nubbins`: er yeah, that's what i meant
dub: they use it for trauma anesthesia too
nubbins`: they put dogs to sleep with it
mircea_popescu: ketamine ?! isn't that basically an anti allergic thing ?
nubbins`: hell, i'm not having a cigarette this very moment
nubbins`: what's easier than not doing something?
BingoBoingo: I'd have to say if I could choose which of the drugs I've tried to have an addiction to I'd probably want it to be Ketamine. That was fun. Coke was kind of fun, but bleh.
nubbins`: dub, if you're ready to quit, it is
mircea_popescu: some of the girls smoke, for that matter. i sometimes join in over coffee, but i don't recall ever craving it
nubbins`: but i can't lay the blame fully on that
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i did have fairly high stress levels during that period of my life
VanCleef: till the nicotine leaves your system
nubbins`: i just haven't had a cigarette in two years
VanCleef: the only to quit smoking is to be locked away on a island somewhere with a girl where you cant buy smokes and everytime u get a craving get a gobbie instead
mircea_popescu: maybe that's it, i don't stress enough to addict.
mike_c: i.e. your mind still remembers nicotine as a great way to relieve stress
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i have no fucking idea tbh.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe this chemistry versus food thing continues across the Atlantic, and to things not entirely food. Or maybe I don't get enough pussy.
mike_c: after that it's psychological
mike_c: physical addiction ends in.. 3 weeks i think
nubbins`: then why do i still get intense cravings for cigarettes when i see people smoking on tv?
mircea_popescu: this entire tobacco is addictive talk is hogwash. i've been smoking for about twenty years now, at the rate of about one pack a month
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nubbins`: well, it's a much more innocent habit on the surface, too, which makes it seem like less of a problem
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Coke is a relatively easy quit though. Really a take or leave it sort of thing. Tobacco is a bit more insidious though. On top of half your neurons containing nicotinic-cholinergic receptors there are a bunch of mono-amine reductase inhibitors in tobacco which are much less frequently mentioned.
nubbins`: i like things way too much to ever try coke
BingoBoingo: Congrats nubbins` if you mean tobacco. If you were talking powder though that isn't so big of a deal.
nubbins`: my two-year quitting anniversary was last week
nubbins`: well, no, but most people would choose not to snort a line of it, given the choice
mircea_popescu: actually i think you can't even find a "food supplement" that doesn't include it.
mircea_popescu: glucosamine isn't particularly toxic or anything
nubbins`: anything white that won't immediately kill you, really
nubbins`: i've seen people add heaping spoonfuls of powdered glucosamine to bags of coke
BingoBoingo: /me wonders where MrKlye is for this conversation
BingoBoingo: Nicotine is the odd case in which any non-smoking route of administration can generally get more drug to the brain. For cocaine, the opiates and others the case is usually the opposite.
BingoBoingo: Then there's the part where lung tissue tends to atrophy in the presence of cocaine in a way it can't for nicotine since humans generally have a bunch of enzymes ready to break down cholinergics like nicotine, though not so much for cocaine.
mircea_popescu: also from the sudden avalanche of sodium blockers being less well tolerated by the heart