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mp_en_viaje: making contradictory statements every other line is not called "answer" ; moreover don't strain yourself, there's unique gossipd nodes awaiting and things.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:40:35 mircea_popescu: all sorta chuck moores, "famous" and apparently ever so good and useful, just WAITING for you to give them a chance to strangle you.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:24:17 mp_en_viaje: i want to make sure i've done all i can so i don't end up in the same circle of hell as he, and the rest of them "engineering" retards, from chuck dicksuck to all the rest.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948712 << there's no chance we're going to the same hell, mp_en_viaje . we're going to different hells, aint room enuff in 1 for both of us.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: maybe, which is why bothering to answer.
mp_en_viaje: seems the model's already breaking down then ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:38:31 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: exactly like the chinese cultural rev. (which shut off like a lamp when mao flicked switch) this one is a 'controlled burn'.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 14:58:32 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936895 << the four foregoing lines are amusing, because 100% of your emissions re comings and goings of great inca are predictable, always downstream on the basis of "great inca is great".
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:38:52 mp_en_viaje: i am saying, qutie plainly, that the man's allegiance is to the inca state, through the intermediate avenue of staqu quo preservation. again, not intentionally, but intention dun enter into any of it.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948747 << apparently mp's allegiance is to the inca state. with ~himself~ in role of the great inca.
asciilifeform: 'overloaded the trains to wear out the rails of our motherland'(tm)(r).
asciilifeform: pretty great 1938 sovok trial going here. ( tho for some reason mp, in role of andrey vyshinsky, forgot to unplug asciilifeform's microphone ? and process the confession ? )
hanbot_abroad: anyway. ima stare sadly into the gloomy hungarian day awhile.
diana_coman: cuntoo is currently the genesis + roadmap really but at any rate, trinque's indeed.
mp_en_viaje: cuntoo iirc was trinque's work ; not so sure how it stands these days, there was some drama that didn't resolve any.
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, i'm actually paying to have the logger fixed, get the ass-sucking dependency he baked in there as an idiot taken out.
hanbot_abroad: and cuntoo? and the logger?
mp_en_viaje: what about trb ?
hanbot_abroad: well...what about trb then, for instance?
mp_en_viaje: what can i tell you.
hanbot_abroad: mp_en_viaje: i would expect interaction with the republic at all and certainly immersion in l1/frequent discussions with you would cause a great deal of reflection on and revision of held beliefs/paradigms, and sure, even frequently, or many times over. it's a shame that there even exists a specific pattern that'd make this rot, rather than revision. but i guess same can be said about any decay process.
mp_en_viaje: one hour board meeting, THIS is how they go.
mp_en_viaje: alrighty then!
mp_en_viaje: anyways ; i suspect now you're adequately impregnated with my wrath, i guess give it a day or two see what the night mind dredges up ?
mp_en_viaje: quite fucking poisoned. look how far they took us!
mp_en_viaje: i don't want to pay the thick end to get the thin end, ever.
mp_en_viaje: yes, it's nice to have the fg ; but not at the cost of being stuck waiting for an isp that elaborately ain't happening. and so following.
mp_en_viaje: i intend to cut as much as possible fo worm off the hook, and i'm rather willing to take zero than any hook.
mp_en_viaje: the objection, in short, is not that the worm's not delicious, but that the worm's just bait.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:38:31 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: exactly like the chinese cultural rev. (which shut off like a lamp when mao flicked switch) this one is a 'controlled burn'.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 14:58:32 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936895 << the four foregoing lines are amusing, because 100% of your emissions re comings and goings of great inca are predictable, always downstream on the basis of "great inca is great".
mp_en_viaje: i am saying, qutie plainly, that the man's allegiance is to the inca state, through the intermediate avenue of staqu quo preservation. again, not intentionally, but intention dun enter into any of it.
mp_en_viaje: i am not for a second saying there's nothing good or useful i nthere.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I suppose there is also the same question applied potentially to the FG and FFA then; but fwiw I digested FFA as well as I could and I still think it is a gem, perhaps a pearl better put: quite the result of successive spinnings/polishings
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i do not know what i want you to do, hence this convo.
mp_en_viaje: so no, there wasn't any line drawn in the sand on the basis of trying to quadrate the circle and throwing tangents at a dangerous idiot.
mp_en_viaje: i don't think it's intentional, in the sense that i don't think alf has the capacity for intentional activity. he's an object, like any chair, or compass, or whatever.
mp_en_viaje: and if you've got the time, and the money, "1-1.5 bitcoin (today, of course ; the fuckface doesn't happen to think he DID NOT say 1-1.5 bitcoin back when he took the quote from) he'll take you for another spin.
mp_en_viaje: except, of course, once he reaches midway. then he starts decelerating ; and he decelerates even faster.
mp_en_viaje: he's now moving towards you, and at an increasingly faster rate
mp_en_viaje: but, see, it's a circle. past the perihelion he's coming back, so it'll ~seem~ like that "woke him up"
mp_en_viaje: at which juncture you might even point the situation out : look, you moron, you are DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED, what the fuck bs you're talking.
mp_en_viaje: then, at some point, his circular motion actually takes him to diametrically opposed pole to the original tangent point
mp_en_viaje: then he starts moving down his circle. and you notice there's a difference ; if you attempt to discuss it, he'll make the cost of measuring the infinitesimal difference (which nevertheless keeps growing, and at an ever faster pace) infinitely large
diana_coman sadly recognizes that line+circle from bitter experience (and not even just asciilifeform ).
mp_en_viaje: at any given point, if ~you~ draw a line, he'll translate over the place, such that your line is a tangent. and you think, naively, "oh, this man's line and my line are clearly, look, colinear"
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, to use the geometric terminology you introduced : alf never in his life walked a line. what he does is, he spins a circle.
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, no. let me explain this clearly :
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: do you want me to look at alternatives there? at the very least to see what/how/any?
hanbot_abroad: it was withstood, consciously, as long as it was, for good reason that remains good reason, no?
hanbot_abroad: i thought what's here is basically a line drawn in the sand, 'will stand no further than this'.
mp_en_viaje: i will do it, too.
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, throwing out the bread works if that's what happened.
hanbot_abroad wonders how anyone would propose to get the salt back out of the bread they've baked.
mp_en_viaje: unless, of course, in the fractally moronic manner in which he's inhabituated us to expect things to "work", there's a barb in there somewhere.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: in hardware terms, the recent tests re deploying server showed at least that we are not married to any specific arch so I'd say that part should not be a problem
mp_en_viaje: alright, so then this is the basis. wut do ?
mp_en_viaje: they're self-evidently all the same "person", if you can call it that. basically, i'm dealing with the same spam script run wild that's ruined western natural sciences.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:40:35 mircea_popescu: all sorta chuck moores, "famous" and apparently ever so good and useful, just WAITING for you to give them a chance to strangle you.
mp_en_viaje: i want to make sure i've done all i can so i don't end up in the same circle of hell as he, and the rest of them "engineering" retards, from chuck dicksuck to all the rest.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: over the past few months I had *loads* of precisely thinking re survival given as the whole client+ graphics+EVERYTHING kept growing as work for me to do rather than ever receding so I can get to developing the actual game on server.
mp_en_viaje: but we absolutely must look at the whole stack, with a clear eye, and clean it of alf idiocy. i don't even care if some useful bits get thrown out in the process so much
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 11:21:04 mp_en_viaje: because he has sexier things to do than what you need ; and, importantly, because this is WHY he wanted to be a "craftsman" in the first place, and why attempted to scam you into buying custom, rather than standard items : so as to fuck you over by doing "sexier things", because in his broken mind the very thing that impels the "craftsman" misbehaviour also looks at your damage as implicit justification -- in that
mp_en_viaje: my first attempt at cutting the gordian knot, on the assumption it's all rot, failed, on the merits.
diana_coman: well, there IS on one hand the FFA gem that has however come after the initial projection that he'll do consulting for smg and so I'll have what to use rather than write eucrypt with the salvaged-mpi (though he salvaged that at least)
mp_en_viaje: s.mg stands currently on a lengthy tree of ideological. "we don't use python", "c this" etcetera.
mp_en_viaje: now, as we stand, he might've infected us with enough stupid to simply die, specifically in the form of such teoria chibritului hardware and software stacks.
mp_en_viaje: but the part where in order to do thing x, you first have to do step 1, and in order to do step 1 you first have to do steps 1.1 and 1.2 ; and in order to do step 1.1 you first have to do steps 1.1.1, 1.1.2 and 1.1.3 staqu-quo protection very much IS.
mp_en_viaje: there's two major points where his idiocy conceivably sabotaged us. of this, the part where we're certainly not getting people in at the rate he sends them out is not of interest to smg.
mp_en_viaje: perfectly liniar he could take forever to not do something
mp_en_viaje: we'll leave the matter of ~why~ "couldn't figure out" for the 3rd discussion, in group ; as we'll leave the assorted bits and ends, how other than whatever the idiot is doing to sabotage himself, with his "circumspect" "conservative" approach every time he should press an advantage, wasting the time so when shit hits the fan, as shit always hits the fan, he can just be sad instead of ciercumspect, and oh, if only the world were
mp_en_viaje: me either ; but that's moot now isn't it -- bv found his way back into the everyday.
diana_coman: at the point with ben_vulpes I admit I couldn't figure out who was really messing up more there, honestly.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-02-05 21:11:14 mircea_popescu: and as an added bonus, you now get to go about looking for lords willing to bring your ideas about republican iron to the table, because i'm not further looking for your input on the topic just as i'm not further looking for your input on eucrypt topic.
mp_en_viaje: then ben_vulpes stepped in, and most of what he heard, for years thence, was "oh, you were so underslept you forgot one bag" ; never "i was such a moron, you had to fly on short notice, i guess ~I~ forgot your bag"
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 02:11 mircea_popescu: and as an added bonus, you now get to go about looking for lords willing to bring your ideas about republican iron to the table, because i'm not further looking for your input on the topic just as i'm not further looking for your input on eucrypt topic.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: this: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781873 ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: yeah, basically he kept dithering in typical fashion, "being conservative" or whatever, being a moron, and the guy simply couldn't get the geat before flight time
diana_coman: the debacle with iron specs? as cited in the time-mgm piece I wrote iirc?
mp_en_viaje: do you recall that time he managed to sabotage phd's attempted pizarro carrier run ?
mp_en_viaje: do you remember that instance i actually forbade your talking to alf ?
mp_en_viaje: i wanna load two events for basis.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: sure, just not fully clear on what there; but I'm all ears
mp_en_viaje: aite, wanna move on to the smg discussion ?
mp_en_viaje: too heavyhanded, man, reads more like a preacher tract. gotta give the characters life of their own, not life of the story.
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/10/30/the-fucking-election-a-halloween-special/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- The Fucking Election - A Halloween Special
mp_en_viaje: damn thing just won't stay on, will it!
mp_en_viaje: odd what the interwebs consumer gets stuck on.
mp_en_viaje: lol the peanut gallery on trilema.
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/10/narodnis-no-no/ << The Whet -- Narodni's No-No
lobbes: now, just need to do the trackbacks piece and then patch it. Looking on track for deadline
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 20:49:54 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: re: mp-wp bot's spitting of the files, do you want some automated cleanup of said directory at every Nth file, or fine to just leave them be? Also, are you fine if they are static php files or is html (with teh embedded php) an absolute must?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-17 04:43:51 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1946013 << php is perfectly fine. there should be a counter somewhere keeping a "max disk size" setting, an inventory of total bytesize, and that deletes oldest-first when the former exceeds the latter.
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: in mp-wp bot updates: I've got the search results piece (with the auto-delete-old-results functionality) complete.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Right, your expression of interest was when the thing went from an idea bouncing around in my headcase to a suspected good idea.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: meanwhile ( per tradition of asciilifeform's homeworld ) here is my resignation. mp_en_viaje can unseal if he wishes, or wait until march or whatever fits his aesthetics.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i expect to sign the final inventory today, after BingoBoingo cuts my seals and inspects the inside of the 'dulap's.
BingoBoingo: It is one of these sort of suspicions http://bingology.net/2019/10/29/preliminary-inventory-of-items-once-hosted-by-pizarro-and-presently-in-my-care/#footnote_0_3068
BingoBoingo: At this point its just the suspicion
mp_en_viaje: i dunno how you'd judge the more thoroughly, but...