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benkay: the robots hate me today
mircea_popescu: well 20 years ago it was a lot more amicable a thing
asciilifeform: btw, phun phact: they're under 24/7 armed guard, in any respectable shop.
mircea_popescu: afaik you can't even go into the mouse farms anymore
asciilifeform: (little buggers all catch something at once. esp. if they're immunocompromised for whatever reason.)
asciilifeform: one of the worst occasions is when a mouse farm dies
asciilifeform: when you're in bio business, you have to be prepared that your working capital can literally croak.
mircea_popescu: apparently one of them being a very improbable occurence they lucked out on. once.
mircea_popescu: the whole list of combos they needed
mircea_popescu: and then could never do it again.
mircea_popescu: they figured it's easy to do, and so didn't pay enough attention to the samples
mircea_popescu: anyway, asciilifeform, the saddest story to date is of this corp that MANAGED it. once.
KRS1: i would like pr0ns of that
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, they can't actually sprout shitake.
KRS1: heh thats quite a picture
asciilifeform: we have those already: chinese postdocs. they don't always cut it, though.
mircea_popescu: sort of like a 3d printer + desktop combo, but made out of cunt tissue and capable of pissing apples.
mircea_popescu: in the sense of, this programmable device capable of controlled gmoization.
mircea_popescu: that's probably the product of the future, by the way : the organic computer.
asciilifeform: it's also a game of 'e. coli simply can't be persuaded to piss out X.' or 'croaks trying.'
mircea_popescu: so you get five of the six... and that's all you're going to get.
mircea_popescu: or they could be 1 in 10^65
asciilifeform: very much so. a place i worked went broke partly because we couldn't get a necessary transfection going.
mircea_popescu: except people have found a way to get investors to pay for it
benkay: anyways there's decades of breeding in the pot plants that i find it hard to imagine getting around with gmos
benkay: 'cause that's how one prevents a pot plant from going to seed
benkay: actually now i'm curious what an unpollinated tomato would do
benkay: why would you put those genes in a plant that fruits?
asciilifeform: btw, when will the drug aficionados get around to the fabled 'THC tomato.' that'd be something to write home about.
mircea_popescu: people will make ethanol out of corn or buy it to rot in govt "reserves" before feeding any starving idiots
mircea_popescu: benkay i doubt there's much relation. famine is well resilient to dropping prices of grain
asciilifeform: there's also the more prosaic fact that 99% of gmo work is for: pesticide resistance.
benkay: on the same note, everything that increases agricultural output is a bad thing 'cause it leads rather quickly to more humans
mircea_popescu: quite a gap there
mircea_popescu: i will not trust an industrial process, such as gmo, on the grounds that in centuries of practice it NEVER failed to make the world dangerous for me.
mircea_popescu: benkay i will trust a natural process, such as viral transfer, on the grounds that in millenia of practice it failed to make the world dangerous for me.
dexX7: usually it's more like "we make the tomato resistant vs pesticide x" afaik
mircea_popescu: it means to have undergone this process where random bits of dna were thrown at a large number of cells just like it, in the hopes that something maybe catches.
benkay: especially given what's coming out about the common nature of organic viral-driven lateral gene transfer
benkay: i'm quibbling about what it means for a thing to be a "genetically modified organism"
mircea_popescu: well so then that's the objection. has nothing to do with reproduction, it's just mashing things together
mircea_popescu: benkay do you understand the process behind gmo ?
KRS1: benkay: engineers reprogram for instance the dna of a tomato so they grow really big and feed more people..a really simple example
benkay: f.ex: an organism identified to carry a certain set of genes bred with another organism some breeders would like to see that gene in
benkay: i just want a little more subtlety in the conversation
benkay: dat binary thinking
Kleeck_: GMOs are the devil.
benkay: y'all should see their new tirades about GMOs
mircea_popescu: omfg they have it online. wow.
KRS1: do something about that player im about to
mircea_popescu: strangely enough, it IS the best soap in the us
ozbot: We’re all one pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/were-all-one/ dex there's a pic of the label there.
benkay: point is this human is no tiberiusxiv
benkay: he even got you worked up a few times
mircea_popescu: dub what's the guy's handle ?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck was his original handle
mircea_popescu: i think it's the other guy honestly
mircea_popescu: dexX7's TIL counter is getting tickled today lol
mircea_popescu: 's even got sideways print to fill all available surfaces with rant
nubbins`: i watched a documentary on that soap a while ago
mircea_popescu: it's basically timecube on a fmcg label
mircea_popescu: you should see the labels on those things
dexX7: i have no idea what you are talking about
mircea_popescu: dexX7 you know the all one california crazy soap ?
monkey`: fake name too
mircea_popescu: monkey` i can't tell you cause you'll probably be mean to it.
mircea_popescu: ahaha, wait, the "fuck asics, i'll make a heat oven PMG" ?
mod6: yah, long time no troll
mircea_popescu: what were you originally ? the guy with the cars/living standards/whatnot
mircea_popescu: so i guess this is the that guy, what's his name
mircea_popescu: Jun 22 23:49:41 <ThickAsThieves>[16:47] * bitcoin935 (3246306d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.70.48.109) Quit (Quit: <ThickAsThieves> sometimes i watch "the three stooges" to take notes.)
monkey`: fuck is this new garbage? what happend to his little online RPG
monkey`: that trashbag mircea popescu selling a new pump and dump?
mircea_popescu: i'm just the nsa, that's all.
nubbins`: funny, "ghanada" is exactly what's written on the covers of the zines
mircea_popescu: heck, even pay taxes.
mircea_popescu: i'd totally move to that ghanada.
mircea_popescu: somehow we must get this perfect middle where if you don't understand you ask but if you think you know better you stfu or get caned.
nubbins`: and the canadians were all "o"
nubbins`: then the point was raised that the canadians will also probably end up feeling uncomfortable in ghana because children are caned there
nubbins`: anyway, the issue arose because the ghanaians don't feel comfortable questioning "authority" figures, and the supervisors were explaining that here in canada if you don't understand why you're doing something, you ask, because you're trying to be a part of our culture
nubbins`: yeah. 3 months here, 3 months there
nubbins`: well, that was one of the points that came up
mircea_popescu: kids there don't get beaten enough.
nubbins`: about their responsibilities
nubbins`: the workshop itself was great, everybody loved printing. but then i got stuck in the room for a "discussion" between this youth group and their project supervisors
nubbins`: lel, a thousand times lel
nubbins`: <dexX7> if you take a look at a phonepad and type 324 it will include the chars to form FBI
nubbins`: it's so rare that i see the word "fecund" used in conversation. great word
nubbins`: <mircea_popescu> i can't do that, the neoreactionaries would hate me because i am helping the jewish-african plot to subvert white fecundity.
ThickAsThieves: of course they do design as well
mircea_popescu: it rests atop an artificial island created out of employee icecream tubs.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 the building is made from the caps of pens they use in filing their taxes
ThickAsThieves: the top floor is their design agency
dexX7: the whole complex is used by them or did they just rent a floor?
ThickAsThieves: and then one rretail unit below it
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yeah pictures usually do. i know the first time i went on a set and saw the actual tits i was hmm... didn't think they're actually that big.
ThickAsThieves: they have the whole floor just above the sign
ThickAsThieves: the signage isnt there yet