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mircea_popescu: anyway, you're too new to know, but the way glbse croaked was like this : theymos announced a private sale of his glbse stock (+ some aussie scammer's)
mircea_popescu: a ok. many of these recur.
ozbot: theymos comments on Founder reflects on the closure of Bitcoin stock exchange GLBSE
dexX7: yeah, "this time" is about pirate again
mircea_popescu: at some point they were incensed about his reading pms on the forum, earlier about his poor manageemnt of forum donations,
mircea_popescu: well, better question would be "why this time" i think
dexX7: next question: people on reddit say theymos is a scammer, why?
mircea_popescu: (also, fb IS a motherfucking scam. not at all in the same sense, of course)
mircea_popescu: o, people love to challenge me. because i'm such a snotty asshole see ?
Kleeck_: Then when you say, "That's bullshit." They say, "No it isn't... Look at this!"
Kleeck_: It help to have a circle of intelligent people that you respect.
mircea_popescu: in fact, i did *the exact same thing* about bitcoin, it took commebnters on my blog ~3 months to get me to look again
mircea_popescu: Kleeck_ i do that all the motherfucking time. i am fortunate to have people who love/hate me enough to insist on the topic.
Kleeck_: Sometimes I don't read book because the cover looks like shit.
mircea_popescu: i guess judging by the site is a superficial approach to life.
mircea_popescu: well what can i tell you. yes silbert is well known, no we've not talked, yes that fund looks dubious to me.
pankkake: companies who have no intention to make their investors richer would be a more explicit label ;)
zoinky: scams rule the world
Kleeck_: YES! The "scam" label has reached an all time low.
pankkake: zoinky> secondmarket did privates stock for groupon, facebook and twitter <= so, scams
Kleeck_: Yeah. It's not for your everyday Joe. That's what the Winklevii are trying.
mircea_popescu: seems to me it's some random item on their platform anyone could have created, much like the other "open platforms" of the sort
zoinky: before they went public
zoinky: secondmarket did privates stock for groupon, facebook and twitter
Kleeck_: I read an article about it a month or two ago
Kleeck_: Because it's limited to accredited investors only.
Kleeck_: Similar to the winklevi, but without the need for SEC approval.
mircea_popescu: dude i gotta relook at this site now.
mircea_popescu: it's their etf ?
dexX7: i can't trust what i read, so i can't trust mp obviously :p
VanCleef: i only trust mp
mircea_popescu: lol that only works if you trust me.
mircea_popescu: well that's where it gets complicated. give an actual example.
dexX7: fine, but how do i verify something then?
mircea_popescu: no, see, this is the problem. you don;'t start by believing what you read is true,
dexX7: i'm just saying what i read and i have no reason to believe that it's not true
mircea_popescu: and as far as to the "were traded there" : i can put up a website tomorrow which claims to be trading your mom. this does not imply anything about the actual lady's probity.
mircea_popescu: so yeah. now you know kinda how the mental process goes.
mircea_popescu: and what are all those llcs being held by incs i never heard about.
mircea_popescu: and where's the finra etc regs.
mircea_popescu: but instead find a sales pitch intended for people with a financial iq corresponding to about the age of 15 ?
mircea_popescu: no, i have specific things in mind. for instance, how come i can't find a name ion the about us page,
dexX7: hm i don't know what it is exactly, but it's a plattform for accredited investors. afaik some big companies like twitter were "traded" there
mircea_popescu: how do you know this ?
mircea_popescu: also it looks scammy as all fuck, what the hell is that ?
dexX7: i heard they are looking for people with many coins
mircea_popescu: i don't recall on the spot. what would this be about ?
[\]: It has the same equivalent.
[\]: put it down the garbage disposal.
mircea_popescu: but i got all this spare food
[\]: mircea_popescu: don't feed the trolls.
mircea_popescu: VanCleef you know, for a site that nobody uses i'm always surprised to see public channels notice any hickup a minute before or a minute after the tech people whose job it is.
mircea_popescu: jurov mod6 any of you want to try now ?
mike_c: k, thanks for update
mircea_popescu: can anybody do anything on mpex yet? i see trades on assbot, but nobody here seems to be able to talk to it (including me)? << atm proxies are dumping most of the input because they can't agree its valid
mike_c: hard to tell ;)
kakobrekla: not sure if srs or trolling
mike_c: btcjam is way easier than mpex. i can sign in with my facebook account.
kakobrekla: i thought btcjam already had problems
mike_c: bitcoincharts api is down too
mike_c: they might do it too :)
gribble: A market order to sell 174000 bitcoins right now would net 14444712.8737 USD and would take the last price down to 10.2000 USD, resulting in an average price of 83.0156 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0072 seconds
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 191.03000, Best ask: 192.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.97000, Last trade: 192.00000, 24 hour volume: 20318.37757498, 24 hour low: 177.21000, 24 hour high: 198.89000, 24 hour vwap: 189.57829
gribble: A market order to sell 144000 bitcoins right now would net 14029024.4938 USD and would take the last price down to 23.3800 USD, resulting in an average price of 97.4238 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 81.6503 seconds
mike_c: er, not that its response is invalidly signed. it doesn't recognize me. (Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first.) which seems to be same as you guys were seeing 4 hours ago
kakobrekla: Failing last since 2011, twice?
mike_c: everything i get back from it seems to be invalidly signed
mike_c: can anybody do anything on mpex yet? i see trades on assbot, but nobody here seems to be able to talk to it (including me)?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
kakobrekla: me too
mod6: jurov and I were having the same issues.
mod6: are you having no trouble executing orders or commands?
kakobrekla: fake trade vol!
kakobrekla: yet theres some trading going on
lurker: isn't mpex the fastest and fuck you bitch? must be the internet then!
VanCleef: how is mpex suppose to lag when nobdy uses it?
kakobrekla: ;;later tell mircea_popescu done
mod6: not me either... was about to test via dpaste.
jurov: anyone successfully placed a command to mpex in past 3 hours?
mpexbot: jurov: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
KRS1: he'll probably get it too
dexX7: A man claims to have found an injured, young rabbit under a porch one day, and then nursed it back to health. He then named the rabbit Toby. This individual swears that he will have Toby butchered and served for dinner on June 30, 2005, unless he is able to raise $50,000 in donations or merchandise sales.
bloctoc: go daddy down probably related to savetoby.com http://www.bobparsons.me/archive_article.php?entry_id=38
mircea_popescu: anyway, im sure the twitter in question is being run by some teen having fun, otherwise unrelated to anything
ozbot: GoDaddy Outage Takes Down Millions Of Sites, Anonymous Member Claims Responsibility | TechCrunch
dexX7: from that point on he claimed he was behind "everything" on the nets, but of course he wasn't
dexX7: this was the time this guy popped up, claiming it was him, web news picked it up
dexX7: hmhm.. i'm not sure what exactly the issue was, but do you remember when almost all godaddy related/hosted websites went black a year ago or so?
mircea_popescu: why ? nobody really goes after the jokers.
dexX7: it's a wonder that he is still on the nets
dexX7: @AnonymousOwn3r << this guy is a joke
mircea_popescu: meanwhile back at the ranch, "Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website"
ozbot: MPOE, October 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
benkay: the only upside to that gig was watching the shop operators grow more and more uncomfortable around me and my robots during my tenure
asciilifeform: it beats xyz arms hooked up to winblows boxes.
benkay: mega personal happiness penalties from programming in proprietary ladder logic though
asciilifeform: there's an undeniable sportsmanship appeal to programming a computer that might kill you, however.
benkay: far more fun to play with than the industrial type
benkay: but only after shunting lots of electrons and making lots of api calls and getting the odd human involved
asciilifeform: i still can't bring myself to call a widget that pushes only electrons a robot.