nubbins`: what the fuck are you gonna do with a biology degree? become a biologist?

nubbins`: science degrees are the biggest trick of all

nubbins`: NOBODY REALIZES THIS

nubbins`: EVERYTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SCHOOL

nubbins`: and nobody's ready until they've sunk $60k into a degree in german film, or history, or biology

nubbins`: but suggestions are advice, and the funny thing about advice is that nobody wants to hear it until they're ready

nubbins`: i suggest not going to university. at least, not until you know what the fuck you want and have at least a general idea of how to get it

nubbins`: university is just a 4 (or more) year extension on the autopilot that's been running these kids' lives

nubbins`: as compared to spending time figuring out what you want from life

nubbins`: can you think of a bigger waste of money? or TIME?

nubbins`: anyway. walk around any campus and ask some young faces why they're there. see how many say "because my parents expect this of me". see how many are thinking the same but are ashamed to admit it.

nubbins`: can part of the system be "nobody gives a fuck if you have a degree"

nubbins`: ah a hiring system. why has nobody thought of this!

nubbins`: completely avoiding the fact that they're as useless now as a HS diploma was not long ago

nubbins`: this is why a bachelor's degree is the new standard for employability

nubbins`: tens of $? lel. tens of thousands of $

nubbins`: well, that's the problem. kids are throwing tens of $ away, under the impression that it will make a difference in their lives. but unless they have the drive to take what they want and the self-awareness to know what it is, it'll never be anything more than a costly waste of time for them

nubbins`: i know lots of very intelligent university-educated people, but i also know some complete fucking morons with the same credentials

nubbins`: KRS-: i spent 6 years in university. i'm discounting the notion that possession of a degree automatically confers knowledge, wisdom, or experience. :)

nubbins`: spending six years learning that i didn't want to spend the rest of my life working in an office was the best learning experience i got

nubbins`: and it takes a 3 minute job interview to separate those who went through the motions from those who took the opportunity to educate themselves

nubbins`: get a sheet of paper that says "B.Sc. (hons)", and then working a shit retail job until one day they realize (or not) what they should have been doing all along

nubbins`: or the individual classes, the value is being in an environment where you have ready access to the tools you need to educate *yourself*. nobody understands this anymore, and so they just show up and mope through classes and go home, not communicating with people who could offer advice, not seeking out opportunities to gain useful knowledge. just going through the motions and passing tests until the

nubbins`: mircea_popescu: one of the big problems with higher education is that students think "ok, i just attend these classes, get this degree, and i'm employable", which is just not true. getting a university degree, college diploma, whatever, doesn't mean you're employable, doesn't mean you have skills, doesn't mean you know how to do anything besides graduate from a program. the value isn't in the degre

nubbins`: abracadabra: i seriously searched for 30 minutes last night. open the fridge this morning, ketchup sitting alone on the bottom shelf

nubbins`: i've got this condition where it's really difficult for me to find the ketchup in the fridge