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nubbins`: "Using
this you can ... sing your key. Although it is
too logic
to mention. For
this you need your passphrase." -GPG mini how-to
KRS1: PeerCover allows anyone
to form his or her insurance group or join an existing group
to insure anything from a Bitcoin wallet
to Ripple debt. Draft your own
terms you approve and sign. Evaluate and vote on new members. Vote on new claims. - See more at:
https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/85#sthash.JNat22IH.dpuf mircea_popescu: alternatively, you can just make x independent keys, of which 1 is for
the corp, and
the others for directors, and perhaps sign a director certificate with
thecorp key
nubbins`: "here, remember
this 90+ character password"
nubbins`: ah,
that would be less
than useful
mircea_popescu: not be able
to give diff directors diff keys << passphrases i mean, not keys.
mircea_popescu: people will need updated pubkeys including
the whole list if
they're
to reply
to
the new keys
mircea_popescu: well,
the problems are : depending on implementation you might not be able
to give diff directors diff keys, so you depend on
their probity signing properly ;
nubbins`: and
this will not be a nightmare for
those who have already added
the original key, yes?
BingoBoingo: skinnkavaj: Does pumping LTC in hostile venues have you down? Does your audience seem listless?
Try brewing some
tea with potatoe leafs.
skinnkavaj: Does someone you know have: severe memory loss, large bags of useless crypto-currency, delusions about moons, rockets or mtgox-midas-ltc?
Then
they maybe be suffering from Litecoin Investor Syndrome and you should call 911 immediately, every second matters!
nubbins`: okay,
tell me if
this makes sense: i have a business and a pgp key associated
therewith.
the email address of
the uid is
that of
the business. what i want
to do is add
three additional uids for
the
three directors of
the business, and
then have a subkey generated for each director as well.
deadweasel: trust me, i just got off
the phone with my ex.
deadweasel: but
that's because
they don't KNOW
they can stop
dub: seems like a
tough sell, americans don't
tend
to like
to stop
talking
ozbot: Discretion is
the ability
to know when
to speak and when not
to speak. : ZenHabits
deadweasel: hmmmm..... I
think
this cult will go far in
the states...
they will eat it up and send him all
their money.
nubbins`: hmm, so a uid is associated always with
the master key, correct?
mircea_popescu: if i gotta bring
the romanian rapper chick exampl;e again...
mircea_popescu: dub but
the argument was it's practically different not fundamentally different
dub: not arguing
that,
the arguemnt was, its not fundamentally different
to gribbles wot
mircea_popescu: well, it's a metic, properly speaking. being a metric one could build
trust on it.
dub: same as 'key M has
traded with pirateat40 and imsaguy'
dub: asciilifeform: how about you sight my govt ID, my employer ID and witness me make a (verfiable) change
to some internet route via a hardware 2fa secured platform
dub: Lacking or showing a lack of due concern; casual: spoke with blithe ignorance of
the
true situation
dub: of course its not universally done like
this but neither is gribble wot
dub: again,
there is often a long
term relationship
the ID is just another layer
dub: is
the person I am
trusting likely
to assign
trust blithely
dub: sure
there are instances where its broken but you apply
the same process as
teh gribble wot
BingoBoingo: dub: References necessarily implies
tits...
dub: in
the community I referenced its generally people who have interacted at a professional level over
time,
they require registration before attending so you know who you are goign
tobe signing for and can stipulate what references
they need
to bring
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, I
thought
the carnal part was implied...
dub: well
thats not always
the case
nubbins`: i really need
to read more about all of
this
mircea_popescu: o but it is, dub.
that's what measures
the value of
the engineer :
the burned voltmeters.
dub: one group are more or less accustomed
to being fucked over isnt valid
mircea_popescu: exactly
the way
the
timisoara rapper girl is differen from "a singer"
dexX7: what's
the idea behind "signing a key from another user"? like "mp confirms
that dub is indeed dub"?
dub: how is
this different
to keservers
mircea_popescu: you go ask
those you
trust from
that list as
to
the what and decide as
to
trust.
mircea_popescu: the wot doesn't describe if a person is
trustworthy,
that's your job.
the wot doesn't describe what a person is doing.
the wot strictly describes whom a person's been doing shit with.
mircea_popescu: you couldn't have missed
the point where
the girl explained why
this is fallacious.
dub: mircea_popescu: so
the lesson is, check who has countersigned? kinda like, check
the wot user hasnt been shill rated
mircea_popescu: got
the propellerheads all aggitated, because
they're
too retarded
to understand in practice
the first
thing about a wot, because
their 30 year old wot never worked.
nubbins`: i'm not sure i understand
this, he's just some guy who goes around signing people's keys?
BingoBoingo: Tits work. For
the gloryhole you have
to go
to
the garage door
though.
jborkl: Just don't look into
the gloryhole
mircea_popescu: it's always good
to demand
tits be held up
to peeprhole
dub: a bunch of propeller heads who have been communicating and meeting up in person since
the dawn of
the
tubes, vs a goup of mostly people
trying
to scam money out of each other
nubbins`: maybe i should demand a qr code be held up
to
the peephole
mircea_popescu: well
they are basically
the same
thing in
the sense
the romanian
talent earlier and a singer are basically
the same
thing
dub: right, and
true, but
they are basically
the same
ting
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: so you miss out on all
those sweet opportunities
to buy stolen jewelry or give some guy a glass of water because he's SO
THIRSTY
mircea_popescu: dub i agree indeed you might like such surety, i still believe you'd rather check with gribble
than with
the pgp wot
dub: the keysigning party is where whats on
the keserver gets validated
nubbins`: i always answer
the door; depending on who it is and
the
time of day, i may or may not carry a hammer in my other hand
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Maybe you want a WOT
to decide who
to answer
the door for if someone knocks?
mircea_popescu: dub if you obtain
this surety from sks.keyservers you're k-pop god.
nubbins`: i'm sure
there are plenty of uses for WoTs outside of btc-space, but i can't
think of any
that would apply
to me
dub: well
there is a secondary economic'ish incentive, if netop at europa net signs a message
to me asking me
to null korea due
to an outbreak of k-pop I might like some surety its him and not
the NSA
BingoBoingo: OpenPGP may be what
the spec is called now, but GPG seems
to be
the only implementation
that matters.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Should people really still be using PGP as an acronym. I figure it is better
to bury it with GPG references.
mircea_popescu: things with no economic incentives included suck by
that very fact.
BingoBoingo: dub: A problem with keysigning parties is
that life doesn't happen at your convenience. Out side of
the nerdier regions
they are a rare bird
to spot.
dub: other
than economic incentive
to game it
dub: its kinda
teh idea behind public key repositories neh?
nubbins`: aw shucks, does
this mean you'll come
to my party?
nubbins`: people who you would never have
to
trust
jborkl: Keysigning parties, who shows up
to
that party
dub: not in
the notary service sense, but in keysigning parties
jborkl: Just a example kako. I of course don't
trust anyone you give a good wot
dub: BingoBoingo: you realise
this exists already
mircea_popescu: (those situations where
trust is built on key actions, not on person actions0
mircea_popescu: it many application
the physical identity = key equality is not particularly important
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo would it make a substantial difference
to you should you discover "i" am really a 24 year old busty blonde woman ?
BingoBoingo: I'm
thinking not quite
that far yet. I'm
thinking a place
to start is people with notary services offering
to endorse key is person. After
that introduction of key is person
trust can be built.
kakobrekla: is supposed
to have "tight binding between contacts management and PGP key ring"
mircea_popescu: someone with a good courtwot could be
trusted upon
to recomend pscych experts. if he also has a good psychwot.
mircea_popescu: so
this'd be a dude with good wot exposure in musicwot and plumberwot