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Apocalyptic: opc0d3, they "prefer" that's it
opc0d3: i run linux on all my servers. but can tell you from experience that big corps prefer MSFT
opc0d3: pankkake: doesn't mean that running a .NET site is stupid or bad idea.
benkay: and what's the fb market cap? and their competence/business acumen?
opc0d3: only idiots would buy windows. That Mircosoft company must be worthless.... let me check
Apocalyptic: do they ? i feel more secure running a linux server honestly
opc0d3: Apocalyptic: yeah, funny that most of the worlds corporate software runs on .NET , i wonder why multi-billion dollar companies use .NET... what idiots@!!
nubbins`: there's an "x" in those extensions!
pankkake: oh a webchat user, the advance sign of retardation
mircea_popescu: opc0d3 you don't have what to think i'm full of shit with.
opc0d3: mircea_popescu: even though i think you're full of shit.... your picture on that horse is hilarious. +1
Apocalyptic: well the fact site is running on ASP makes me chuckle a bit
benkay: a telling response.
opc0d3: MPEX is upset that they've stolen market share so they tried to slander them
benkay: ah well there ya go
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opc0d3: Apocalyptic: its the largest Futures exchange, and they have 0% trading fees right now... its awesome
mircea_popescu: if nothing else, because there's little doubt and even less uncertainity involved.
mircea_popescu: and to clarify, opc0d3 , you don't get to come in after a coupla years and call established fact "fud" and "bs".
Apocalyptic: opc0d3, ICBIT.se ? never heard of that
mircea_popescu: benkay the article quoted, and there's periodic such reports on bitcointalk
benkay: "don't have the dough to pay the winners"
opc0d3: mircea_popescu: it's in your interest to slander you competitors. so, forgive me if I call you on your FUD and BS
mircea_popescu: unregulated markets have various advantages, among which the existence of such idiocy.
mircea_popescu: then they hire some five cent an hour muppets and are again alll sucess and bigger and bigger.
mircea_popescu: then they magically don't have the dough to pay the winners, and go into a cone of darkness for a half year
opc0d3: ICBIT.se is the most legitimate futures exchange right now, and the largest.... so laugh at their success
mircea_popescu: the difference is that mpex uses actual figures, rather than running this thinly veiled scam you do.
nubbins`: pankkake: there's nothing stopping that from being a renamed .jspx ;)
mircea_popescu: i love it when 4 month old muppets imagine their short lifespan compensates for 2year+ history.
opc0d3: mircea_popescu: they have more volume now. you obviously bought futures in a thin market, and it moved against you.
pankkake: > trusting a website with urls in .aspx
mircea_popescu: opc0d3 don't be an idiot. that article is older than your involvement in "finance".
opc0d3: point is, he's trusted
opc0d3: mircea_popescu: sounds like you're just bitter that they had thin volume and someone traded against you
benkay: well then give him all your isk
opc0d3: Tycho is an ADMIN at bitcointalk and very trusted and is one of the owners.
opc0d3: mircea_popescu: so you claim that they sell fake contracts down to force people into margin calls?? doubt it. i've been trading there for 4 months, in the black significantly, (im on this list https://icbit.se/WebTrade/top.aspx ) and have made multiple withdrawls.
asciilifeform: 'barrel doesn't /have/ to be 7.62mm! fiat!'
asciilifeform: what's next? some joker will say that an AK round is 'fiat' currency?
benkay: i would put the a.c. outside for the night if that hit my radar unsolicited.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the entire "bitcoin is fiat" argument fails to comprehend that the only true scarcity is mathematical in nature.
nubbins`: consider the statement suitably modified
mircea_popescu: start there.
benkay: it's not a subcommittee, it only reports to me.
nubbins`: benkay: i'm not the one with an aesthetics subcommittee.
opc0d3: benkay: 170,000 volume on the futures contracts
benkay: nubbins`: art because your lord said so. money by the same.
mike_c: went from 1 btc to 2? congrats!
opc0d3: 4:1 leverage. best way to make money with exchange rate going up
benkay: opc0d3: what's the options volume on icbit?
opc0d3: I doubled my BTC buying futures at ICBIT.se, the greatest and largest futures exchange of all time
opc0d3: MPEX going to zero. how do i short MPEX. +1 ICBIT.se
opc0d3: ICBIT.se 0% fees. mpex is going down the drain. ICBIT.se 2 years of rock solid trusted service. ICBIT.se futures much better then MPEX garbage with 40BTC signup fee
mike_c: it's one of those arguments that when you hear it, your ears start to bleed a little.
benkay: which is moronic given that all currencies are only such by consensus
mike_c: it doesn't mean anything. What they mean when they say it is that it isn't backed by anything of value. you know, like gold.
benkay: i think the implication is that it's a currency by consensus
mircea_popescu: da fuck is "bitcoin is fiat currency" supposed to mean ?
benkay: i find myself trying to convince people of stuff again dammit :(
benkay: i'm still trying to formulate an argument against people who hold that bitcoin is fiat currency
benkay: how does one trust the issuer of such cc to back it fully and not descend into fractional reserve behavior?
benkay: just thinking about the concept shows it riddled with the holes of weak minds
mircea_popescu: mebbe there's more to it ?
benkay: meaning in the absence of a functional commodity-backed cc?
benkay: given that i can take my buttcorns down to ye local banker and turn them into commodities, this is idiocy on idiocy, right?
thestringpuller: gold for BTC, perfect way to launder
benkay: (high quality and, you know, appeals to my taste etc)
benkay: unless they have cogent reasons for to not, obviously.
benkay: nubbins`: when a thing strikes me as being of high quality, i generally submit it to the aesthetics comittee for discussion and then instruct said aesthetes to purchase the thing
nubbins`: honestly, the concept of going shopping for art hadn't occurred to me until now
benkay: on an entirely different topic, i fly to argentina tomorrow. i'd be glad to act as a proxy in buenos aires for, you know, not *anyone*, but people in this channel with btc-related inquiries
benkay: very definitely a delegable task.
benkay: can't be arsed to go shopping though
benkay: i exercise veto all the time, man. neural nets need feedback to work correctly.
benkay: there's some irony in there.
nubbins`: i thought we were all mad here
nubbins`: "man, this benkay guy must employ someone who has really good taste in art"
mircea_popescu: like better masking for the impact of power.
mircea_popescu: burn the heretical unbeliever!
nubbins`: in that context, yes, i suppose you'd only have the opinion of the "powerful" on which to rely
nubbins`: so you pay someone to buy art to put in your home or office or w/e in order to not appear like the sort of person who would be perfectly content inside a grey cube
benkay: and i only deploy capital against aesthetic things when it's going to have some sort of caloric return. eg: "babe, take this small pile of capital and deploy it making this space look nice. that way when clients come by they won't be horrified by my abysmal decoration and might actually be impressed by my aesthetic committee's performance"
benkay: i did find the line about equivalency between aesthetic value and caloric value amusing
mircea_popescu: i been tryin to tell him
benkay: it's like the f=ma of power dynamics
benkay: which is baseline true
benkay: the only opinions as what matter terribly are those as what emanate from the powerful
benkay: ain't nothing to it, really
dub: respect that privacy
Kleeck_: How is your VM getting out to the internet, bitcoin349?
bitcoin349: If the rat is on their computer from when I sent it without hiding my ip then I uninstall it before wiretransfering funds through bitcoin on a virtual machine with different settings and hiding ip on 3 layers would I be traced or would their not be a log in the ISP of the info about the rat.
nubbins`: that's the first thing people see
nubbins`: anyway, it doesn't even really matter what the specifics look like. it's all about layout on the page
nubbins`: not sure, you'd have to ask mp
pankkake: wow pretty good drawing. i think I would have trouble with the teeth
nubbins`: although certainly the first time it's been featured in someone else's blog
nubbins`: unfortunately, not the first
mircea_popescu: as enacted by trilema.