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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC
to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: bitesak_ well
to a degree
their market is a commodified or at least commodifiable one, so price competition will be a part.
mircea_popescu: taub a ok. yeah, it's all a quest
to respect your market basically.
taub: then
they can start charging (hopefully modest) rates
taub: they establish
themselves as big players by letting
trading happen for free
taub: oh jackig up, yea but i mean compared
to it being at zero right now
taub: because
they have 0% fees right now
taub: volume wise
they overtook mtgox
taub: once you're relevant you can jack up
the fees becuse people will pay for liquidity
taub: first you have
to become relevant = liquidity
taub: they understand a
thing or
two about marketing
their exchange
taub: look at
those btcn numbers
mircea_popescu: mike_c i guess you were right, whoever got
those options made out ok.
mircea_popescu: jurov
the start-up
times are a legitimate problem
tho, and so was
the fact it
took
two weeks
to sync a year ago.
mircea_popescu: more importantly, if you also put gpg on
the system you can
then go gpg --encrypt --armor -r yourkey and put
the result in an email
to yourself
mircea_popescu: b0n1 : you can have local backups in
the shape of 2 or 6 or w/e drives.
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin price
to rise above 750 USD
taub: especially since i failed
to like
taub: i'm quite unslettled by
this rise
gribble: There are currently 9739.3209 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 3987139.62192 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
jurov: no,
that won't protect from session hijacking or xss(although i hope
there's no xss)
bitesak: despite
the hassle, maybe a 2fa
to login from
the start would still allow for convenience in placing and cancelling
jurov: um,
that's
true. should add 2fa
to orders.
bitesak: more speficially, how
to steal from a protected (as in 2fa bitcoin signature for withdrawals) account
bitesak: and how relevant
the current 2fa system is
jurov: ah, you have in mind how
to *steal* from some other unprotected account?
bitesak: not if
there is
the 2fa enabled requiring signuature
to withdraw coins
ThickAsThieves: [02:20] <Diablo-D3> is friedcat no longer processing direct share
trades or what? <<<< one or
two
times per week
jurov: it can be done with one account altogether,
too
bitesak: jurov: are
there planned updates
to coinbr ? I finally got round
to adding
the 2fa for withdrawal, but it seems
that if I had access
to someone elses coinbr acct I could rather easily/quickly buy some in
the money options, and sell
them at a slight discount
to my main coinbr acct and exercise
them. Is
this correct?
jurov: unencrypted wallets fiasco is bound
to repeat itself
jurov: well, with clowns like luke-jr focus on startup
times instead of something useful for airgapped machines/cold storage
bitesak: right, like inputs.io "Cold storage system protects coins against server compromise" and 4'100 gone
through email reset is as if we were 2 years ago
BingoBoingo: Well, might make sense. Seeing how web wallets are having a rough
time of late.
bitesak: that and maybe a sizeable amount of bitcoins have left
the exchanges in fear of losing access
to
them.
that's what I did a year ago at least
BingoBoingo: bitesak: Indeed.
Too many mother fucking gem chasers.
bitesak: BingoBoingo:
the current order book is rather
thin
to 1'000
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 321.00000, Best ask: 321.39999, Bid-ask spread: 0.39999, Last
trade: 321.00000, 24 hour volume: 62963.98772207, 24 hour low: 255.55000, 24 hour high: 321.00000, 24 hour vwap: 279.54595
bitesak: and
testing
the keys with small amounts is probably a good idea first
bitesak: there is
that site where you can download
the page and run it on an offline computer but I am in no position
to suggest
that is a wise method
b0n1: yeah I am asking for a good source
to exactly
that
jurov: so get
the parallel dotmatrix printer and print
them
b0n1: but i only found sources
that print you
the private key online (wtf?)
b0n1: i
think
the paperwallet is a nice idea
b0n1: BingoBoingo, but its
too dangerous without a backup
that
the drive breaks sometimes
BingoBoingo: b0n1: Get an old computer... Something with an intel 386 or motorola 68030... NEver connect it
to
the internet and force bitcoind
to compile on it...
b0n1: is
there a good source
to read
the necessary steps about doing
that?
b0n1: yeah
thats actually what i had in mind
b0n1: if
the drive breaks its gone...
bitesak: do it a on a computer
that has never been connected
to
the internet
b0n1: meaning
to extract
the private key in a way it cant be stolen directly
b0n1: is
there a good and
trustworthy source of creating a safe cold wallet
BingoBoingo: bitesak: Might be several. mircea_popescu is going
to be pissed if
this shit goes
to 1000 while he's sleeping...
bitesak: seems it going
to be a volatile month_
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 310.00000, Best ask: 310.98740, Bid-ask spread: 0.98740, Last
trade: 311.00000, 24 hour volume: 61529.88981591, 24 hour low: 255.55000, 24 hour high: 311.74361, 24 hour vwap: 278.43237
gribble: There are currently 4253.2816 bitcoins offered at or under 380.0 USD, worth 1416665.99834 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 158.9018 seconds
gribble: There are currently 10854.036 bitcoins offered at or under 9001.0 USD, worth 10405638.0799 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 135.3452 seconds
gribble: There are currently 6648.9972 bitcoins offered at or under 500.0 USD, worth 2446291.50608 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 99.0861 seconds
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 300.90000, Best ask: 306.88000, Bid-ask spread: 5.98000, Last
trade: 306.88000, 24 hour volume: 59913.45566826, 24 hour low: 255.55000, 24 hour high: 310.00000, 24 hour vwap: 277.46977
gribble: MtGox lag is 1.076579 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.00215745226202 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across
the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
BingoBoingo: I guess it also looks like
the Inputs.io coins aren't being dumped right away like
the Pirateat40 ones were.
gribble: There are currently 7533.4558 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 3151930.19296 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 210.0132 seconds
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 303.00000, Best ask: 304.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last
trade: 303.00000, 24 hour volume: 50925.63231333, 24 hour low: 255.55000, 24 hour high: 309.68000, 24 hour vwap: 274.02814
Diablo-D3: is friedcat no longer processing direct share
trades or what?
dub: quite close
to shoegoo
though
mircea_popescu: then again it's about
two degrees of magnitude heavier or some shit
mike_c: wow, mpoe only has
two gaps all year (the outages). other
than
that,
traded every day.
mike_c: yeah, looking at numbers it's not unusual.
there have been a bunch of
times
this year
that bbet went 3 or more days without
trading.
mircea_popescu: mpex investors are
traditionally
the buy and hold sort.
mike_c: 0 volume on s.mg, s.nsa, s.bbet since sunday. bubble scaring investors maybe,
turning
them into hoarders..
mircea_popescu: yeah looks like
the guy had some sort of personal problems or w/e
mike_c: let me spoon feed it
to you :D "John K logged on, replied, and released
the escrow funds
today."
dexX7: ah,
thanks for
the link
dexX7: did johnk come back by
the way?
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.8626 seconds. During
this
time, light
travels 0.00172864074185 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across
the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
chaang-noi: i guess i wont be getting
them coins back after all, with
that interest i was up
to 143,453,835,365 coins owed :(
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 275.00000, Best ask: 277.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last
trade: 274.20000, 24 hour volume: 45884.19332570, 24 hour low: 253.50000, 24 hour high: 277.09850, 24 hour vwap: 265.39350
chaang-noi: the goat is making sure everyone waking up is in
the loop...
BingoBoingo: chaang-noi: Old news, happened hours ago. Barely a memory in bitcoin
time
chaang-noi: for people who dont know,
tradefortress was "hacked" and lost over 4000 coins
BingoBoingo: 3.
Two people from
that night haven't spoken
to
the others in years while
the other
two still drink
together most every weekend.
BingoBoingo: In college late in
the academic year
the roommates and
the self were having a discussion on
the ethics of
torture so we all
took
turns getting waterboarded. Some observations 1. It
terrifies
the most when
the cloth is soaked. 2. It isn't very pleasant
nubbins`: well, it doesn't necessarily need
to be people
mircea_popescu: sure, one day
they
too may be people.
that day hasn't so far come.
mircea_popescu: just making
the point
that in
the same way people might not want
to call idiots "people"/
nubbins`: what do i care what
they're called?
nubbins`: the same implication is
there, but i don't have
to use a miscarriage of a clumsy forced portmanteau
to do it
nubbins`: it's condescending in
the manner of a
teenaged boy who
thinks he's figured everything out
nubbins`: it's a cliched,
trite, dull word
that smacks of unsophistication
nubbins`: no, it makes me feel embarassed for
the person using it
nubbins`: i fucking hate
the word sheeple
mircea_popescu: KRS- yeah. sucks when whatever you
trust betrays
that
trust.
mircea_popescu: quoted mostly for
the "“I’m an educated, very well plugged-in person" girl sez.