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punkman: passing the bad doesn't make it disappear
mircea_popescu: but people generally don't want to believe asshole "single points of failure", because decentralized wisdom tells them "it works just fine"
mircea_popescu: isn't this the "uk busineswoman" of great repute that i "viciously attacked" for "no good reason" last year ?
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> kolinko no. the system can break itself, too. it doesn't need a mustachioed antropomorphised enemy. /// glad to see you say so, it's a point often missed in many circumstances. for example, some want to paint USG as a hyper conspiracy and assume all its evil/scammy actions are fully intentional. More likely, it just evolved to be a broken shit in all corners of its
mod6: lol. can't finish until you start :)
mircea_popescu: can't even speal.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well don't drunk rate eh.
mircea_popescu: meh. guy's just jotting down random thoughts. they are pretty broken, but can't judge one on that. anyway.
mod6: t-t-t-today Junior!
mircea_popescu: well gavin doesn't enjoy much of a reputation for a thinker around here, but let's see.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones let me guess, the situation is that calls you don't really know how to price and so don't really want to sell and puts you can price perfectly well and nobody can afford ?
kolinko: you wouldn't really need to trust them to handle funds, just for them to be unable to conspire with eachother
mats_cd03: i can't tell if you're trolling anymore
mircea_popescu: after all, he recently wrote a mega-piece of us trollery didn't he.
mats_cd03: and don't fucking say its because there are 15 of them.
mircea_popescu: code in such a way you won't be ashamed to show what you've written to your kids or the woman that may potentially carry them.
jurov: kolinko again..these 15 say "the price at time T is P becuase.. some bullshit"
kolinko: mats_cd03 didn't know about that. any link to the story? (or I can google)
mats_cd03: what is with you and this magic 15 number. i don't get it
mircea_popescu: kolinko no. the system can break itself, too. it doesn't need a mustachioed antropomorphised enemy.
kolinko: it's still more secure than trusting a single party to provide the price, isn't it?
los_pantalones: doesn't matter where you source it
The20YearIRCloud: kol - it wouldn't be hard as long as you had a option to withdraw the USD
mircea_popescu: but really, there doesn't seem to be that much demand for options once the darkpool and bitbet respectively take the slack.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves but see, if you delete the program, you can't say you've broken the code.
kolinko: you're nitpicking. what I meant is that it doesn't matter who created the list and how. what matters is whether the list really contains gpg keys of the people, and whether the people on the list want to participate
kolinko: in other words - you don't trust the list of 15 people because the list of 14 people said that you should trust it. you trust the list because you can see who's on it, and they look trustworthy.
kolinko: you can create the list of 15 all at once. people wouldn't trust the list because they saw it being created. they trust the list, because they can review it one by one, and see that all the individuals are indeed trustworthy
mircea_popescu: anyway, sybil attacks are specifically not a problem in anon systems. if you go for a romp in a gay cinema, to be fucked by a random man, it makes no difference to you who fucks you, so you can't be sybil'd by definition.
mircea_popescu: so they won't be arsed.
mircea_popescu: these aren't simple problems, and they're unsimple for fundamental reasons, it's not a matter of implementation.
kolinko: the idea for the distributed contract was that if I want to build a business that relies on options, such a business shouldn't rely on a single individual/company
mircea_popescu: the contract ain';t the problem there.
fluffypony: in the 0.03 seconds it takes the peer to verify the block you won't even have completed the handshake to send another block
mircea_popescu: t know yet if the block is any good ?
mircea_popescu: this isn't what i meant earlier.
mircea_popescu: you can't ? (i dunno, i'm asking)
fluffypony: you can't reconnect as a new IP fast enough
mircea_popescu: i can't see you :D
fluffypony: well that's what I'm saying - the block flooding DoS doesn't work
mircea_popescu: dos is dos, as long as you can't use a service because of a 3rd party it's a denial of service.
fluffypony: the block flooding DoS attack doesn't work with Monero, at least not that we've been able to simulate
mircea_popescu: i mean don't get me wrong, active experimental research in "o yeah, those asics are that cool ?" is quite valuable and a good use of one's time.
punkman: aren't there plenty off-the-shelf hardware AES implementations?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: ASIC will likely outperform a GPU, but I'm guessing it will be in the ~5x better range, not huge. << if this is per watt, wouldn't it be quite huge ?
mircea_popescu: dub: where these perchance, other primitave cultures faced with certain defeat in the face of a technilogically advanced imperial invasion << quite. just like the forum retards, the general response of the primitive mind to "o boy, this guy's so much better than you, better learn how to suck cock" is "lalala i can't hear anything"
xmj: friend of mine's got a spare, doesn't know what to do with it
fluffypony: xmj: it won't at all, it's a different PoW
assbot: I would very much enjoy reading Mircea Popescu's reply to the letter in this post: http://t.co/MndDYtNb9w < you can imagine the SPANK!
punkman: right, aren't the CPUs better in that regard?
KODE_YETI: and RagnarDanneskjol can't in2 dat variety
dub: what do we do sahib? idk boss pray shiney sky rocks don't kil us
BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: I dunno that you aren't trustworthy, I apparently was lead though (prolly by bad actors) to believe though that you are much older than you are.
BingoBoingo: No, You don't sell things. You sell people.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> maori will help you negotiate with the british << Didn't you hear??? Moiety Starved. Scottish is NOT profitab le..
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (or drunken impostor. don't lose keys, people will wonder.) << This
asciilifeform: (or drunken impostor. don't lose keys, people will wonder.)
decimation: well, I don't deny that resolution is important too
mircea_popescu: you don't understand asciilifeform. europe sits on a lake of wine the size of michigan
asciilifeform: don't be so quick to say 'never.' i went recently to a junk peddler, he has a sealed in box 'vic-20.'
mircea_popescu: how the fuck are you going to find virginal trinitrons, haven't been made for two decades
asciilifeform can't find a usable crt for $maxint
asciilifeform: (somewhere in china, ntsc/pal picture tubes are still made. you don't want these.)
asciilifeform: homo chumpiens isn't meant to keep his iPnohe for longer than a year, or the like.
mircea_popescu: prolly with some more rare earths nobody ever heard of and thatdon't really exist
BingoBoingo: Knot_Yeti: Well of course you can't in Vanilla city
Knot_Yeti: i certainly wouldn't know
Knot_Yeti: <KRS-1> Anyone care to share your thoughts on this article? I know many of you aren't America, but perhaps you can relate afterall. http://boldanddetermined.com/2011/11/10/the-continued-pussification-of-the-american-male/ << holy KRS-1
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Half the year I can make them feel lazy. Unfortunatley for me the half they aren't looking
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: don't misunderstand the original gripe. the bell is annoying precisely because it rings - rarely.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "isn't it great?"
BingoBoingo: No, those aren't black, those are Abbo
asciilifeform: if it speaks asynchronous serial (and what doesn't)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: more or less. don't plug the ethernet in.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Isn't Irix basically crotchless panties?
BingoBoingo: AIX isn't real though
BingoBoingo: chalbersma: I know you linked an atom server architecture earlier, but x86 can't be your fave... can it?
upme_boolcrap: this isn't all bad for her
decimation: keys aren't safe on the ocean floor: http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nukevault/ebb305/
chalbersma: I noticed someone said they didn't like bitvps but they have VPS for $20/mo that may do the trick. I assume other vps providers have similar pricing. 2 cores 2G 20GB 2TB transfer.
X-Rob: decimation: I feel that I'm always at the bottom edge of the market of rig hire. I don't want to appear to rip people off
BingoBoingo: %t
decimation: linux actually has something called 'perf' that does this - sorta - but the problem is that it doesn't do a full backtrace
chalbersma: Plus the usg couldn't get any worse if it was toking up. :)
decimation: I was thinking to myself this evening: what if Washington DC were washed into the sea tomorrow? usg's contingency plans would probably be to move the government west, in the middle of the kulaks they have been harassing for decades. I don't think that 'contingency usg' would survive as an entity that we would recognize.
chalbersma: @Bingo would consider it in the future. Not looking into starting a hosting gig full time at this point. I haven't worked with Solaris but at my last job I did setup an internal FreeBSD webserver for them and I've been keeping up with FBSD for a while (esp. that ZFS goodness).
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if receiving don't even need all that much.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can't hide an antenna. this is the definition of antennae.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you can't build a bunker in secret from aerially-observing enemy, it isn't a real bunker.
mircea_popescu: "Gentlemen, being a man is great. You get to use your muscles to pick up heavy things, you get to use your dick to fuck things, and you get to use your brain to think and create things. It’s no wonder feminist’s hate men – they desperately want what we have but they can never have it. But how the heck have they convinced MEN that being a man is bad or evil?" << ah come on, women can't lift things ? wtf.
KRS-1: I don't publish anything.
KRS-1: Anyone care to share your thoughts on this article? I know many of you aren't America, but perhaps you can relate afterall. http://boldanddetermined.com/2011/11/10/the-continued-pussification-of-the-american-male/
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It totally involves blood, but yes it isn't secret... Totally public
mircea_popescu: chalbersma well no, but we aren't friends is all :)
chalbersma: :) Ya I didn't name the company.
X-Rob: I couldn't resist
X-Rob: No it wasn't.
mircea_popescu: X-Rob speaking of ppl can't math : "Basically, by specifying the price to such a huge place, it gives an advantage because it takes a smaller price change to win."
X-Rob: Ah. That's a different question. BEcause people can't math.