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mike_c: those threads mess up my chi, but they are like a train wreck. I can't not read them.
deadweasel: dammit pankkake , I thought I would get some work done today. damn you for following gold thread!
kakobrekla: funny thing is, the bet was open for hours after the price condition was satisfied
dexX7: what's that? thread number 3?
Guest67219: lordy, there is a continuation nao: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=341470.0
pankkake: gold thread getting golder: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg3709382#msg3709382
nubbins`: well, ya know. gotta pay for the "free" healthcare somehow.
nubbins`: oh right, those aren't allowed down there
mike_c: lots of good things up north, but low taxes aren't one of them :)
nubbins`: ah yes, and that
nubbins`: they come here for the weed and syrup
mike_c: ^ true dat
mike_c: " you know, Americans do not come to Canada for the low taxes," says Wrobel.
mike_c: oh that one.
nubbins`: anyway, this seems like a direct violation of the charter
nubbins`: puerto rico can't even vote, you think they're gonna let canadians do it?
mike_c: you would think the rest of the world would get to vote in US elections in that case.
mike_c: nice how we can make laws for the world.
mike_c: The law forces all banks and other financial institutions outside the U.S. to search for customers who have certain "indicia."
nubbins`: if only there was some sort of way to store monetary value without having to use a bank
ozbot: Canadian banks to be compelled to share clients' info with U.S. - Politics - CBC News
thestringpuller: well that's the thing I meant to send you yesterday
thestringpuller: ;;later tell jurov http://pastie.org/pastes/8507471/text
thestringpuller: ;;later tell jurov` http://pastie.org/pastes/8507471/text
ystarnaud: too bad thats not the US lol
thestringpuller: oh god now I'm deep into trilema again
nubbins`: but he acts in pretty much the exact same manner as one
nubbins`: i'm pretty sure he's not a troll
thestringpuller: "Luke-jr is not part of the Bitcoin devteam. He.s a loud and mostly useless contributor, such as pretty much everyone with a github + my cat."
thestringpuller: to the public everyone thinks "oh luke-jr is a core developer! what a great guy"
thestringpuller: oh that luke-jr
nubbins`: <Luke-Jr> quickcoin: before the Church, people were just superstitious idiots
thestringpuller: In other news, I think pizza for coins is ripping off tips: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rezqc/is_pizzaforcoins_ripping_off_drivers_tips/
nubbins`: why the fuck would anyone want shitty generic x when fabulous new x' is available?
nubbins`: add some useless feature to drug x, market it as x', the new generation!
nubbins`: yeah, but there are ways around that
thestringpuller: the whole "generic thing"
nubbins`: or the ones with diseases for which there is not yet any treatment
nubbins`: so would all the people dependent on complex medications
thestringpuller: kleeck: I use science in the sense of, "a calculus used for discovery", or "something discovered using the scientific method".
nubbins`: of course, this fails in practice
kleeck: nubbins`, I think that's a thought worth exploring.
nubbins`: art/creative things can
nubbins`: anything for the betterment of mankind can't be patented
nubbins`: stallman had lucid thoughts on this
thestringpuller: you shouldn't be able to own science no?
thestringpuller: but you shouldn't be able to own something someone else can easily discover
kleeck: It's ok to own a thing you create.
kleeck: I do like openSource though.
kleeck: I don't believe that's the answer.
kleeck: Patent Trolls buy patents and then claim they have the rights to things that they often don't.
thestringpuller: how does that work?
kleeck: You can patent things internationally.
kleeck: "You embarrass me," said Diffie. "But yes, I think it's fair."
kleeck: "Is it fair to say that the jury is looking at a little bit of history, in terms of cryptography?" asked Albright.
kleeck: In 1976, he published "New Directions in Cryptography" with Martin Hellman. The paper's cover sheet was displayed on the screen in court.
thestringpuller: if someone patents something in america, just like move to china no?
thestringpuller: won't patent trolling become obsolete soon?
kleeck: and I love seeing patent trolls get trounced.
thestringpuller: too early for me to remember mah history
kleeck: He worked WITH Hellman though
nubbins`: i think you might have your names mixed up
thestringpuller: created the diffie-hellman key exchange
thestringpuller: pascal257: you have inside information on the ukyo loan?
kleeck: "And how is it that you're familiar with public key encryption?"
kleeck: "Yes, I am," said Diffie, in what surely qualified as the biggest understatement of the trial.
kleeck: "We've heard a good bit in this courtroom about public key encryption," said Albright. "Are you familiar with that?
ozbot: Newegg trial: Crypto legend takes the stand, goes for knockout patent punch | Ars Technica
kleeck: Haha. This Newegg lawsuite is awesome.
pascal257: so ukto will announce that he defaulted?
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nubbins`: ok, back to bed. try again in a few hours
kleeck: Today is going to be stressful enough without a hangover.
thestringpuller: the only channel that actually makes sure the bitcoin world is running correctly
thestringpuller: i'm glad bitcoin-assets is on top of everything
thestringpuller: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1311.0243v2.pdf - anyone read this yet?
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Bugpowder: I have .23 BTC on the Broncos
Bugpowder: fuck tha pats
Bugpowder: just hit the wire
Bugpowder: due to the NYT article
thestringpuller: what's the action Bugpowder ?
benkay: jurov what is this http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE
benkay: what kind of hashing scenario would target fpga's well?
thestringpuller: Your pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses your understanding.
BingoBoingo: Shannon security is an awfully elusive thing in reality.
BingoBoingo: Well, that has always been an obstacle to secure implementation of OTP schemes in practice.
asciilifeform: the essential, non-negotiable property of an rng suitable for crypto is that its output must not be readily available to the enemy. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: For most purposes I imagine RAND's One million numbers with 100,000 normal deviates would probably be preferable to most current computer RNGs, though the RAND book would be horrible for creating a one time pad.
asciilifeform: in academia, even the RAND Corp. 'One Million Random Numbers' book would usually suffice.
BingoBoingo: I imagine the cardono's RNG board might find a market in academia where decent random numbers are needed for certain types of statistical work
asciilifeform: an rng integrated on chip is suitable for a game machine and little else. and even this given the condition that the game is never to be played on wager.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, also I imagine an RNG is a pieces of hardware where shrinking the node size is detrimental. Probing things best measured in nanometers seems like an expensive proposition.
Bugpowder: ;;gribble tslb
asciilifeform: on the contrary, the usual practice is to pot the damn thing in epoxy, or worse
asciilifeform: all the available commercial offerings (afaik) fail this standard.