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mircea_popescu: and i sold it for two cars and a wife"
mircea_popescu: "and then i detached this stone which had been wedged in the sole of my shoe for who knows how long
jurov`: and from there to else
jurov`: it kinda spilled over from btc to ltc
mircea_popescu: we will have the best couch cushion stories in the history of huimanity
mircea_popescu: i think i had bought 10 k or w/e back in 2011 when it was nothing
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is the #117th country in the world by gdp.
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1210.12101, Best ask: 1212.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.87899, Last trade: 1212.0, 24 hour volume: 34113.01465694, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1212.0, 24 hour vwap: 1059.5428
mircea_popescu: fun fact : bitcoin gdp for 2013 so far is higher than iceland's
deadweasel: fire in the sky! nope, that's just nubbins' beard
nubbins`: it didn't get much longer than that
nubbins`: heh, came across this one again
mircea_popescu: another day, another two-three billion added to bitcoin mkt cap
firstblockchain: understood - thanks for starting point
Diablo-D3: firstblockchain: nope, and I'd advise you to stay away from them
firstblockchain: One quick question for a "frame of reference" as I start looking at the virtual companies here and how they work - are any of them based on real-world / physical product "businesses" people are running?
nubbins`: TBF i shaved the beard and the allergies remain D:
ozbot: THE BEARDS - If Your Dad Doesn't Have a Beard, You've Got Two Mums (Official Film Clip) - YouTube
deadweasel: firstblockchain: excellent. glad to hear it.
firstblockchain: I've already received two links here that will keep my mind busy wrapping around what's going on here
firstblockchain: Hi deadweasel - thanks for the intro and invite
nubbins`: havoc on my allergies tho, all the chaff floating everywhere
nubbins`: and the beans are yellowing
nubbins`: there's this one point where almost all the moisture is drawn out
mircea_popescu: it was lovely to sit and have coffee there yeah
mircea_popescu: the pic is coffee being roasted in the shop downtown san jose
ozbot: Chestii pe care mi le doresc dar nu le voi putea gasi niciodata pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popes
KRS1: must be the latitude
nubbins`: my favourite origin is still ethiopia tho, sorry :)
nubbins`: peaberries make nice coffee, but you generally only see tanzanian peaberry for some odd reason
mircea_popescu: KRS1 i know. i lived there :D
mircea_popescu: but they didn't really thrive for some reason.
mircea_popescu: i recall there were about 3... maybe 4 coffee sellers for btc over the years
nubbins`: i recall having an excellent Sumatran peaberry, one of the best i've tasted
firstblockchain: I put them up for sale for bitcoin to show it could help create a better direct line between source and consumer. I was very happy with the result.
mircea_popescu: if you actually learn from the reactions no. if you keep right on like a webrat then yes.
firstblockchain: Is it a faux-pas if I'm the type of person who doesn't lurk, but just jumps in and tries shit to learn from the results / reactions?
mircea_popescu: yes, the idea is it takes six months to a year of lurking to catch up to speed.
firstblockchain: I can see I'm going to have to dig in a bit and wrap my head around it. I live in Indonesia, and the first thing I thought of when I began exploring BTC was how powerful it would be to connect producers with consumers much more easily, by skipping all the middlemen, paperwork and fees involved in transactions. My main focus was how this works with the coffee industry.
mircea_popescu: they probably don't mention that part, either.
mircea_popescu: the guys at the bitcoin foundation are basically one scammer and some dorks.
firstblockchain: when I (recently) discovered some of the other functions that can be accomplished with the blockchain - my mind was blown - and now I discover folks have already been doing it. You know, the guys at the bitcoin foundation don't mention this place when they give conferences....
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is the deeply hidden nugat of breathtaking complexity wrapped in a lot of superficial buzz.
firstblockchain: thanks for the link
firstblockchain: Raised hell when I posted what I did and a link to my website on Reddit - but got a lot of useful feedback too - like discovering a working version of it here LOL
mircea_popescu: if you're interested in the point in a philosophical sense you may also wish to read http://trilema.com/2012/gpg-contracts/ and the trackbacks etc
mircea_popescu: well nobody knows about anything until they find out
firstblockchain: Reading it now . Thanks - I wish I'd known about this before.
mircea_popescu: no, actually. that's the oldest.
mircea_popescu: that's one of the older examples.
firstblockchain: Deadweasel was kind enough to inform me such concepts have been developed and working by some of the folks here.
mircea_popescu: o hi there.
firstblockchain: I'm the guy who made an ass of himself yesterday by embedding proof of articles of incorporation into the blockchain using Manuel Araoz's proofofexistence - and then claiming I'd incorporate the first "blockchain" company.
mircea_popescu: what in the loving fuck is that.
mircea_popescu: "Once the restrictions enforced upon us have been lifted, our plans will become extremely clear. Please note that any speculation with regards to our involvement is in fact nothing more than pure speculation. People who are invested, are more than aware that we are open, honest and will move the business forward at every given opportunity."
mircea_popescu: that's perhaps the worst piece of corp literature i've ever seen, ftr.
ThickAsThieves: sounds like an okay deal to me i suppose
mircea_popescu: any way i turn it all i can see here is "neobee assumes as little as it can possibly get away with of bf/weex liabuilities in exchange of all assets"
pankkake: twice as many bugs for the price of one
nubbins`: weex: because you want to sign up for two things today, not one
ThickAsThieves: while you need Weex to use BF
mircea_popescu: well i kinda think of both as the same thing.
ThickAsThieves: [10:04] <mircea_popescu> so basically bitfunder is sold for 1 btc ? <<< He makes no mention of Bitfunder actually, title is Weex
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1153.43168, Best ask: 1169.80003, Bid-ask spread: 16.36835, Last trade: 1170.73661, 24 hour volume: 33404.48434916, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1170.6156, 24 hour vwap: 1049.37753
Diablo-D3: TERRORIST TERRORIST
ThickAsThieves: he;s a terrorist
nubbins`: so casascius says it's fincen that caused him to halt orders, hey?
ThickAsThieves: i have yet to see the site
Jere_Jones: Was easyco.in already down or did sending out that neobee update effectively ddos it?
pankkake: This is coming at minimal cost to Neo & Bee (man hours)" if true, I'm not that mad anymore :p
pankkake: it's not like there are even contracts
pankkake: want to do a "an havelock listing will be a scam" too but again, how do I define that…
mircea_popescu: yeah. doing god's own work here, these are q's that should be pondered.
pankkake: well, I'll try to find another creative way to define trusted and scammer :p
mircea_popescu: there's an economic incentive to the forum default trust tree ?
pankkake: I was thinking the economic incentive would always be greater than the bet itself
pankkake: there's not much at stake for that though
mircea_popescu: bets should be something more substantive than "mp will post a threesome on irc"
pankkake: but how do you define scammer and trusted
pankkake: my general idea was that someone "trusted" would become a scammer yet again
pankkake: yes, but he would have probably more to lose by removing that someone
mircea_popescu: but also because even if the person doesn't bet it will still be accused of having bet and ensured his own winning.
mircea_popescu: not only because the person could just bet and ensure his own winning,
mircea_popescu: bets tghat are within one person's arbitrarity are badbets by that fact.
mircea_popescu: what's that to do ?
pankkake: yes… but that aren't things changed lightly
mircea_popescu: theymos can arbitrarily do that, right ?
mircea_popescu: "I feel as if I have been scammed.. Transferred from my BitBook to Just-Dice address they gave him and it's been 20-30 minutes, no BTC's and the address changed now "
mircea_popescu: davout a little recycling of stale shit. great for the environment, ok for the consumer.
ozbot: BitBet - Mt. Gox Fails to List Litecoin
davout: either way this smells like a glorified google authenticator
pankkake: dexX7: probably was registered by many of those domain squatters. I wonder for how much it sold for
dexX7: http://whois.net/whois/bitcoins.com Creation Date: 2000-03-30T13:48:38Z ... that's pretty early?
pankkake: oh and you can't use a regular yubi with them?
davout: pankkake: they flash their YKs so you can't use them anywhere else
davout: i don't really get that, is there any point to it besides marketing?
pankkake: so… more expensive than a yubikey but only works with mtgox
kakobrekla: i got the thing in my email today
davout: oh wait no, the url says 20131120 and the date on the PR says 27 nov lol
davout: (aw shit the PR about their otp card is actually a week old, shame on me)