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mircea_popescu: in 2020 mike_c will be all like "well sonny, i remember back in the old days, mp was there, and i sent this kid a whole bitcent on a lark"
dub: mike_c: might want to also check if snackman is the 1 person that doesnt require confirmations
Duffer1: not like my opinion matters at all in this anyways, i was just curious
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 a 10 page forum thread
dub: mike_c: make sure you pay the fee
Duffer1: i don't believe they would have to lie to keep your money, there must be something i'm missing
mike_c: if you want the 0.0001 btc i promised
mike_c: awwww, sweet, i win. post address and i will send the donation
snackman: Duffer1: they are lying to keep my ONE MILLION cents
turbo_ac100: ThickAsThieves, thanks
turbo_ac100: Namworld, I can't get my S.BBET and S.BBET redeemed. That's still possible right?
ThickAsThieves: yeah they sent money after the answer was known
Duffer1: whats all this drama now?
truffles: i dont think u want him to be more convincing
ThickAsThieves: you suck at convincing people to help you
ThickAsThieves: because he feels his policy helps create the kind of world he wants to live in
snackman: mircea_popescu: then why would 10btc matter to you?
mircea_popescu: snackman im the largest thing in it ya klutz.
snackman: mircea_popescu: you are a scum to the bitcoin economy and community
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves well, i'm doing what i think is right, and in so doing i'm preventing others from having the same sort of problem all the time. <<< fair enough
snackman: mike_c: also, i followed the basic rules: bet on what you think will win
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well, i'm doing what i think is right, and in so doing i'm preventing others from having the same sort of problem all the time.
snackman: mike_c: there was not much time left
mike_c: seriously, if it is such an important amount of money why didn't you do a little research first? doesn't that seem wrong to you at all?
ThickAsThieves: do what you want, i;m just sayin youll likely have this problem continually
mircea_popescu: otherwise the reasonable man can start sending to random addresses.
snackman: truffles: thanks.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves a reasonable man would not send bitcoin on the basis of his assumptions.
ThickAsThieves: a reasonable contract typically wouldnt have snares
truffles: snackman i get what ure saying, id already have refunded u if it were my biz though, gl
snackman: mircea_popescu has forgotten the current btc price, making my loss around 12000 usd, making it more than worth pursing a lawyer. also for the satisfaction of seeing this bastard lose in court
Vexual: a reasonable man reads the contract
ThickAsThieves: a reasonable man would likely assume his bet would either be valid at the time of sending, or refunded at a fee
ThickAsThieves: so you dont think "reasonable man" is a concept to consider?
snackman: Vexual: also only if there are no surprising clauses
dub: though dumb romanians are smarter than dumb americans
snackman: Vexual: yes, if they explicitely ask you to confirm them, which they didnt
mike_c: i always took the priority the opposite, that is - it is discouraging moving coins too much by giving recently spent coins lower priority
snackman: truffles: yet, because the txn was sent before, it only arrived later because nobody confirmed it
Vexual: faqs are accepted to form contract
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the problem with this approach is that 1. it empowers nonsense and 2. it bloats pages.
truffles: so ur situation was outside of terms ?
snackman: mircea_popescu is only not returning them because he assumes that it is unlikely that i will sue him in romania
ThickAsThieves: Hey MP, how bout a compromise, put "Late Bets Will Be Retained" or such on the Send Bitcoins page of bitbet ☟︎
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla well because of the particular design, seems implicit in it.
snackman: truffles: they weren't, they were FAQs, and i never agreed to them, also this particular clause was *surprising*, therefore not applicable for yet another reason
mircea_popescu: it's one of the points i don't quite grasp tbh
mircea_popescu: or at least satoshi thought so for some reason.
mircea_popescu: in principle it's good for the network to keep moving coins around, i suspect.
mircea_popescu: so if you have 1k btc that weren't moved for 3 years, you get about 1mn times the priority of a 1btc that was moved yest.
snackman: truffles: it was placed on the correct bet though
snackman: truffles: because my transaction was not confirmed in time
mircea_popescu: that's the product of a coinbase's volume with its age.
mircea_popescu: the prioritization of txs takes into account the concept of "bitcoin days destroyed"
jamespeerless: what do you mean? why would they be free
mircea_popescu: jamespeerless the reason is that we're oldfags, which means rich, which means with a lot of old coinbases, which means tx are free. or something.
mircea_popescu: snackman it's not a nickname dood. that's my name.
Bunnyh: ok,i thought i am
truffles: why'd he take em snackman?
Bunnyh: is the NO on bitbet charts really gray? seems teal to me
snackman: truffles: he took my btcs
snackman: mircea_popescu: tbh, it's kinda hard to debate an online nickname that has taken 10btc from you and tries to keep it using "arguments"
jamespeerless: does bitbet have a minimum bet? seems like they'd lose money on transaction fees if I don't bet much?
mircea_popescu: where's that mit video
snackman: mircea_popescu: nah, i don't think that
snackman: for everybody, not just the overprivileged party members
mircea_popescu: i think i should be insulted by being related to the hottest chicks on planet earth or something
Duffer1: cancelled due to budget cuts mp :P
ThickAsThieves: make the most loss out of it?
mircea_popescu: don't they teach debate in school anymore ?!
snackman: ThickAsThieves: because i wanted to make the most out of it
dub: fast bux are the best bux derp
snackman: mircea_popescu: so then tell me, why are your genes contaminated by sub-human east european scum parents?
mircea_popescu: i was thinking... this guy's theory is that i simultaneously invented the thing and also don't know what it is ?!
ThickAsThieves: surely he has it tatooed on his penis
snackman: mircea_popescu: you might wanna look up megalomania then
ThickAsThieves: we're all wasting each other precious time, dont give him all the credit
mircea_popescu: you got that a little backwards neh ?
snackman: mircea_popescu: i'm still listening. you are wasting my precious time
mircea_popescu: like thrice rammed.
mircea_popescu: no, like tryrammy.
ThickAsThieves: trirome, pronounced like tyranny
kakobrekla: and the roastions
mircea_popescu: the trirome!
kakobrekla: as all the roads lead to rome, all the questions lead to trilema
snackman: mircea_popescu: i'm listening to what you have to say. that post developed into a bashfest
mircea_popescu: well that's about it.
mircea_popescu: snackman actually, there was a post about that, too. didja read that ?
ThickAsThieves: i was just like wow this dude is very progressive with these gay frames
snackman: well, mircea_popescu, sorry but i can't get it out of my head: *why* do you not want to pay me my 10btc back. please just explain it to me in a calm and rational way
mircea_popescu: so rarely women do anything worth the mention. why rob them of the little they do.
mircea_popescu: no i mean the oglaf GUY. it's a girl.
snackman: is that you in the header picture?
mircea_popescu: snackman http://trilema.com/2013/the-strange-case-of-the-delusionist-and-later-stories/ << check out the cartoon.
ThickAsThieves: now taking bets on how long before snakcmna is banned or run out of here
truffles: didnt see that one coming
mircea_popescu: i'm really jurov, who is ThickAsThieves.
ThickAsThieves: so does btc-e carrying litecoin prevent the Gox effect here?
ThickAsThieves: the dude has colleted less than 10btc
mircea_popescu: so then how does he hold the shares at whatever