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mircea_popescu: then as various ignorant noobs got added that figure they "know shit" and "have businesses" and so on...
mircea_popescu: that eventually is misplaced. it originally was the case, back in 2011.
pankkake: it's the first characters of the fingerprint or something? anyway, it shouldn't be relied on, but sadly it is
thestringpuller: thus as long as the keyserver isn't compromised you can trust the key distribution?
thestringpuller: i would assume that the keyservers WoT uses will eventually encompass the bitcoin community that matters no?
mircea_popescu: the fingerprint is the whole thing.
mircea_popescu: pankkake that's the keyid.
pankkake: beware that the small fingerprint you often see can have collisions
pankkake: well you should only trust the *fingerprint*, no matter how the key is distributed
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller the system i now use works on the assumption either A or B are famous.
thestringpuller: can you really trust keyservers mr. pankkake ?
thestringpuller: what is the best system for public key distribution that enforces validity?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you may have an answer to this.
thestringpuller: my eyes are bleeding reading this thread
pankkake: I know… but I also have TAT in my trust root
pankkake: all that trust. riiiight
pankkake: just being sloppy then abandonning his PTs
thestringpuller: what'd he do again? he did those passthru's but what happened?
pankkake: btw this scammer had a mpex account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144622.0
thestringpuller: pankkake: you can still profit on that action though even if you're a real investor
mircea_popescu: here's an idea : if you dont have a mpex acct youre too poor to be an investor.
pankkake: pump the scam to death, praise shitty action because it profits them, etc
pankkake: but even the so-called investors
pankkake: it's not about issuers. yes, most of them don't care to make their investors whole
mircea_popescu: pottery, stone tablets, gpg signed matter...
mircea_popescu: now that's an interesting way to look at it...
thestringpuller: being able to make history "truthful"
thestringpuller: unfortunately history can be "modified" after the fact, but I think that is GPG contract's greatest assets
thestringpuller: it's how you know what came to be
thestringpuller: @_@ history is the shit
mircea_popescu: it's unfair i tell you!
mircea_popescu: it puts all their shortcomings in such a cruel light.
mircea_popescu: but take nanotube. he doesn't say much, but was here since before me, and he ain't scamming anyone.
thestringpuller: because they want all the money now without providing any value
mircea_popescu: needed some time to create histories.
mircea_popescu: the cave early behaviour partially to blame. also, the first few years everyone was new by the very definition.
thestringpuller: or at least that's what my dead uncle told me
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic you'd think that'd be obvious, you know ?
Apocalyptic: don't expect some random dude opening a bitcointalk post about his service to be legit
mircea_popescu: no good reason to care, tbh, their problem, let them fix it.
mircea_popescu: no way to fix that, really.
mircea_popescu: with freedom comes the horde of people who misunderstand what freedom is all about.
thestringpuller: send money to firstbits 1scamyou
Apocalyptic: well scammers gonna scam, that's what they do, and in bitcoinland there's a ton of them
thestringpuller: even then it doesn't pay
thestringpuller: scamming doesn't pay, unless you're in your death throes
pankkake: just a general feeling that any of these guys would scam if they could
pankkake: but really, fuck all this shit
thestringpuller: Based on this formula, Havelock should be shutting down any day now.
thestringpuller: I think there is a correlation between an exchange's life expectancy and the quality of the "businesses" it IPO's
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu, what the heck foo? Keeping the price from reaching pluto
mircea_popescu: so if i google sweets for my sweet result #2 is the drifters (black ppl), #3 is the searchers (white people)
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 740.0, Best ask: 745.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.00000, Last trade: 745.0, 24 hour volume: 45162.82997989, 24 hour low: 653.0001, 24 hour high: 860.0, 24 hour vwap: 731.95439
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 762.01529, Best ask: 769.99999, Bid-ask spread: 7.98470, Last trade: 760.23281, 24 hour volume: 48633.24355535, 24 hour low: 653.0001, 24 hour high: 860.0, 24 hour vwap: 745.14452
jurov: http://megiontechnologies.com/career.html multicultural team ftw
KRS|gotyawallet: claudioc: anyone wanna donate some coins to me?? i have no way to payoff this 2nd mortgage now... c mon guys u have my money at least let me get 0.1 btc
KRS|gotyawallet: The robot voice in that song makes me imagine a giant doomsday alien robot on armageddon day destroying a city and killing people with laser-ray eyes and explosive charges launching from devices mounted to its hands.
mircea_popescu: exchange #5893490583094 is thus born.
the20year1: what cycle 20 times?
random_cat: i logged into bitfailure and wedontexchange and see the ukto has followed through with the shuffel of assets
ruru: as long as this place isn't panicking, i think we're good.
ruru: it was panic.. Dumped @ low 600s, put a bid @ 600.. then, pulled it for some reason. He wasn't at the right state of mind.
Duffer1: i can empathize with the scammed, but not those on the losing end of speculation
ruru: lost around 57 btc in the process
ruru: let them panick.. my poor buddy sold.. 400+ BTC, got $280k. then.. guess what. Bought back when BTC rebounded. He got fucked bothways by the market
KRS|gotyawallet: thats true forgot all that its been good for a while..good point..
mircea_popescu: already ? it's been the talk of the town ever since we started raping the town
Apocalyptic: hum I actually read this one already
KRS|gotyawallet: some chatter already that btc is all over
mircea_popescu: ruru try log.bitcoin-assets.com
mircea_popescu: <the20year1> Not exactly , our attourney says that it's quite possible for them to be SEC compliant <<< we've gone through this cycle about 20 times already.
Apocalyptic: you think they will seriously consider such an offer ?
the20year1: i know i'd be willing to chip in for that :D
the20year1: I'll message my contact and see if they can get a quote
the20year1: I think that's a fantastic idea duffer
Duffer1: the20year1 if you know someone involved with ciphertrade personally get them to approach lloyd's of london for theft insurance contract
Apocalyptic: yeah, i've read the exact same post
Apocalyptic: fortunately someone here corrected me and linked that post
Apocalyptic: i've been misled too
Duffer1: interesting Apoc, the way the ciphertrade thread reads on litecointalk.org they make it sound like he's in on the ground floor
the20year1: I think 'founders' are more complicated, according to my brother who is involved with the startup in some way
Apocalyptic: sounds pretty clear to me he's not involved in any way, let alone being a "founder" as you say
the20year1: Not exactly , our attourney says that it's quite possible for them to be SEC compliant
Apocalyptic: "the new exchange being developed/run by the Ciphermine team. But we are NOT committed (in the sense of having promised to go there) to it - and, at present, I am not committed to being involved either as part of the operational team for it OR as an investor in it."
Duffer1: they're going to run into sec issues
the20year1: I just hope that they build a framework, or someone does that won't run into SEC issues
Apocalyptic: I bet she likes to advertise it so, for obvious PR reasins
Duffer1: i like that Deprived is on board with that project
mike_c: coinbr is a good place to start
Duffer1: kate's demonstrated trustworthiness, but competence remains to be seen
the20year1: I just really would like to get back on an exchange
the20year1: I'm looking at cipertrade, looks good to me
Duffer1: one with known members of community that have demonstrated trustworthiness over a very long period of time
kakobrekla: closest they got to ssd
ozbot: Will it Blend - Patriot Flash Drive (original full length take) - YouTube
kakobrekla: >For many different reasons, such as for instance described in IV. Disposal. Also because the wear-levelling optimisation most SSDs natively employ makes it nigh-on impossible to actually delete anything you ever put on them. [?]
mircea_popescu: Azelphur i don't keep such tho.
kakobrekla: I type by hand
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: would be interesting to see, probably could get it from user agent statistics if you have them
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone actually types by hand tho.