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benkay: mircea_popescu: i'm trying to suck as much fiat into btc with overpriced us programmery hours as i can
the20year: My county has enough food during the spring/summer/fall to be well more than self sufficient
mircea_popescu: the20year fun fact : other than berlin, the most rapes per german cunt happened in the countryside.
benkay: mircea_popescu: i strongly suspect i won't have time to get out of the country.
BingoBoingo: benkay: Buy as landfill as it is being capped if you must stay in the US. Keep the fencing and signage though.
mircea_popescu: benkay go to rhodesia.
benkay: man i'm trying to make shit-hitting-the-fan hedges but i think that even small towns that are nominally self-sufficient in this country are so tightly coupled to the rest of the country that they'll devolve into chaos too
ThickAsThieves: and he wants to know MY logic
ThickAsThieves: This guy understands there's a fee to move shares to Havelock, but not to move shares out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3936404#msg3936404
mircea_popescu: yeah but at least in the company of 1800s brownstone you can pretend all that grub is just going to go away
benkay: wait how does that work you have to experience so much modern man in those urban areas
Bugpowder: but why live in those shitholes?
Bugpowder: I'm sure new york is a mess too
mircea_popescu: there are houses in this town that are 500+ years old and still inhabited.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder admittedly much easier to do in california and for new developments.
pigeons: well think of the children
mircea_popescu: except of course if prosecuted by the all-corrupt usg.
mircea_popescu: as in, any case over a 80yo alleged "theft" is thrown out of court just like that
the20year: that issue million dollar policies on title clouds?
the20year: And the title companies?
mircea_popescu: the20year most realtors pretend this is the case, sure.
ThickAsThieves: ha i was just gonna quote that part
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you probably need an actual lawyer to tell you what a joke that is.
the20year: most realestate in the US has proper deed records
asciilifeform: afaik they do this routinely with ww2-plunder art, etc
Bugpowder: "What's more, this absence of a paper trail speaks to criminal intent. If whoever took or exchanged the coins thought he was doing no wrong, we would expect to see some sort of documentation reflecting the transaction, especially considering how carefully and methodically the Mint accounted for the '33 Double Eagles."
mircea_popescu: if i were to confiscate all property with broken title that's 80+ eyars old, i would be able to pay for the us deficit maybe even 3-4 years
pigeons: if you fear this is an internet rumor go to the physical archives of a library
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except this was 80+ yeaers old.
pigeons: anyway you were allowed to keep gold jewelery and special collector coins, of which currently circulating gold coins were not
asciilifeform: re: eagle coins: if i'm found with 'toyota' and no titles, receipts, etc. and a dealership whined about being short of exactly one such...
Bugpowder: Your hedge fund client is using a retail checking account. Rather than use a business bank account, Madoff’s hedge fund put billions of dollars from thousands of investors into a retail account, and didn’t bother to segregate it with sub-accounts. His accounts “exhibited, on their face, a ‘glaring absence of securities activity.’”
asciilifeform: at least they're honest.
benkay: can't be having those precious metals floating around
pigeons: there was a good espidoe of boondocks the grandpa told the judge, "didnt obama legalize weed?"
mircea_popescu: usg confiscated them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as in, the judge read pediwikia to them during sentencing?
mircea_popescu: that'll certainly be reddit-news, once you publish the SHOCKING results.
mircea_popescu: find out the % of people whose residence is based on a wikipedia page.
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: My understanding of the law is based on the wikipedia page, which specifically says safety deposit boxes were not searched and seized. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102
asciilifeform: wait till they catch someone burning goodies on CD-R and re-shrinkwrapping the sausage.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` ideally they don't do anything to the roms.
mircea_popescu: 500 fellows that went to desoldering school.
asciilifeform: 'hiring! one fellow willing to desolder 500 roms from Sybolics Lisp Machine.'
mircea_popescu: even more jobs are needed to iterate the alternatives. great news.
pigeons: but eeproms from the 80s will have bitrotted a bit
mircea_popescu: they like that, because they can apply for more salaries.
asciilifeform: are they gonna search the hundreds of 1980s EEPROMs in my junk boxes when i hang?
asciilifeform: data storage is interesting from the 'what'll the polize do' standpoint ☟︎
jcpham: i missed that
pigeons: or talk to someone old
asciilifeform: order the coin/fake bolt/etc. and your address is on The List (TM)
pigeons: i thought he was trolling
mircea_popescu: that one went all the way to http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/240/
nubbins`: almost bought a 25 when they were selling for ~26-27 earlier this year
Bugpowder: Got the 2013 brass
Bugpowder: basically used to keep me from trading them.
asciilifeform: it's very easy - wanna open a bank safe box? there'll be a polizei watching, removing anything shiny and yellow, 'at fair market price.'
nubbins`: who said they had a roll of cas coins?
jcpham: in true goat style
pigeons: they didnt have to confiscate lots of it cause people brought it in but executive order said they had to
Bugpowder: nubbins`: See example : Goat posting his lambo to 4chan
jcpham: check the radiopacity
nubbins`: ^ maybe the most lucid display of sarcasm i've seen in weeks
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder methinks you got the history muddied up on that one.
Bugpowder: plenty of gold in that box too
nubbins`: <benkay> a real millionaire would spend it all exhibiting the wealth, right?
Bugpowder: happened to one person in the course of a criminal investigation.
Bugpowder: hehehe… only with probable cause. The gold confiscation in the 30s is just an internet myth.
mircea_popescu: not shoving things up there would be even gentler.
jcpham: i have one of those spycoins
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're missing the point
nubbins`: is there any actual record of someone purchasing freshly-minted coins from a pool?
asciilifeform: sd card (or rolled up printout) would be gentler on the rectum, i imagine, than a coin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anal insertion is the only thing that comes to mind.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: No because I would be that guy who made a typo. Casascius is more competent than I in that regard
asciilifeform: forging a hologram isn't exactly building a thermonuke
Bugpowder: you need the key and my ID yo.
mircea_popescu: the20year if he really wants to do it, south africa is probably a better place.
asciilifeform: what's the appeal of the cas. coin?
the20year: now he needs to move to Canada to do it
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder give us the depost box address too and it's all good eh.
Bugpowder: Oh well. It's better to know news before others, generally.
mircea_popescu: <Bugpowder> nobody paid attention when I posted it to reddit on the 28th. People needed a wired article to make it news. << ridiculous, isn't it.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: wouldn't it be more logical to trust one you've filled personally?
thestringpuller: but cascius coins are the only "paper wallet" i really trust
thestringpuller: i knew he went to whole sale
Bugpowder: nobody paid attention when I posted it to reddit on the 28th. People needed a wired article to make it news.
deadweasel: they pulled the rug out. he's in the US.
thestringpuller: what happened to casascius coins?
Bugpowder: yes they have been gone since Nov 27th
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benkay: a real millionaire would spend it all exhibiting the wealth, right?
Bugpowder: except for the car.
Bugpowder: His garage does not look like the garage of a millionaire
Bugpowder: its a lot easier to sell $80M worth of BTC than 80M worth of pizza from your house.
nubbins`: well in that case he probably kept every satoshi, less minting costs
Bugpowder: But he was still making about 10% BTC profit on his sales up till he shut down.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` the guy was a millionaire before btc.
mircea_popescu: 8k simply reflects the fact that for most of the coin's life, the metal was worth more than the key.