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BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Bitcoin problems. Knowing if Inputs was actually a hack or an insider
theft (and
there was one insider) will require an eventual spending of
the coins devlared hacked.
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic:
These are
then answers only
time can give us.
pankkake: so he
took
the easy route
trying
to cover his lies about CL
BingoBoingo: A problem I am seeing
though is
that if
TradeFortress was
the primary borrower from Coinlenders and ran both Input.io and Coinlenders under
TradeFortress
that
this might actually should have been a Coinlenders default.
BingoBoingo: Sure. It was also useful for people like Dooglus who had
the sense
to make
TF keep coins on deposit in
the event of an Input.io default.
BingoBoingo: Maybe pankkake? A distinct problem is
that even an actual inputs.io hack can't absolve him of having been CoinLender's operator and primary borrower simultaneously.
pankkake: added "Went from DefaultTrust
to Default" for
the lulz, but it's really useless now
BingoBoingo: My has
TradeFortress's forum
trust fallen "Trust: -363: -7 / +7(7)"
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pankkake: yeah, but I've seen
them
talk about something similar lately
fiat500: pankkake:
this PR was closed
BingoBoingo: fiat500: Probably not by
the "devs"
though
fiat500: pankkake:
this is something
that will hopefully be fixed soon via software
pankkake: and even sometimes
tx propagation is slow
fiat500: i'd love
to see some recent numbers for
those
fiat500: AM's 300MH/s usb miners were
the lulz
pankkake: + seeding
the bootstrap
torrent
pankkake: eheh,
that's what I'm doing (running a node with good connectivity/many connections)
fiat500: i
think
they need a math refresher
BingoBoingo: If people want
to really donate
to "support"
the network
they can run VPS nodes with walletless instances of bitcoind
pankkake: so it's just
to feel good I guess
fiat500: for some its "supporting
the network"
BingoBoingo: fiat500: And
they've been right beat if
they haven't been mining and dumping altcoins
Apocalyptic: that's why i'm sitting out
this mining frenzy
fiat500: feels
to me like just sitting on btc and waiting for competitive mining
to bring
the price up is a better deal
than betting on effervescent hardware
Apocalyptic: he was at
that bitcoin inside conf in Vegas last week
fiat500: i envy
TAT for virtualmine,
that was also genius
pankkake: seems a bit stuck because of ciphermine bonds, but otherwise it escaped unharmed from
the other failures
Apocalyptic: it's doing good, although
they have no exchanges
to
trade
them
fiat500: i remember
the DMS
thing haha
Apocalyptic: did you see dandan claiming some corp is going
to announce 5
TH/s machines soon ?
fiat500: but i felt my anecdote was representative of
the state of affairs, most setups have similar stories
Apocalyptic: i don't see
the Deprived's DMS as a destruction of wealth ,
though it's most creative for sure
fiat500: but wait,
there's more,
the hope is in january
they will be hashing at 28TH/s
Apocalyptic: <fiat500> mining and derivative mining products // I disagree with
the latter
BingoBoingo: ng a 0.025 BTC bounty
to anyone who can find
the link."
BingoBoingo: Duffer1 has claimed
the bounty for finding
the article per: "Sometime late last year, a publication released an article on Bitcoin Barons or Bitcoin movers and shakers
that was linked
to recently and I can't seem
to find
the link anymore. Among
the listed names were Nefario, Diablo-D3, and Caldwell. It came from a fairly major publication. If any of
the aspiring bitpoor are listening on
this channel or reading
the logs, I'm offeri
fiat500: at least before you could resell your GPUs
to gamers
fiat500: we havent even seen
the worst of it yet -
these resources
thrown into single purpose hardware
fiat500: Apocalyptic: i will say
that
this is
the most creative destruction of wealth i've seen
fiat500: if
there weren't
two sides
to
the market we'd either be at zero or
the moon now
fiat500: btc on an upswing -> makes perfect sense
that people will dump
Apocalyptic: fiat500, I don't remember specific names but if you browse a bit on
the forums i'm sure you 'll find some
fiat500: its
too bad
these guys have
to keep proving mp right, wish someone would prove him wrong for once :P
BingoBoingo: I
think a safe rule of
thumb for anything BTC is
that Mining=Scam until delivery.
fiat500: im citing
the silence on
their bitcointalk
thread
fiat500: sort of like when you're sick but don't want
to visit a doctor in case its something
terrible
fiat500: i feel like
the people who
threw money at 100th really just dont want
to know what happened
fiat500: also
the funds were sent
to a picostocks address
fiat500: had
to re-read
that a few
times
fiat500: pankkake: why i said i wouldnt have predicted
this
pankkake: still
they lied multiple
times about 100th and coint
pankkake: did
they pay
the missing dividends? I'm following
that loosely
BingoBoingo: fiat500: I'm pretty sure being insolvent due
to hack essentially makes picostocks
the new cryptostocks
fiat500: the circumstances of
that "hack" are fishy, but
they ate
the loss.. perhaps it is an elaborate ruse
fiat500: wouldnt have predicted
that in july
thats for sure
fiat500: as for havelock, i find it surprising
that pico is likely
to outlast all of
the non-mpex bitstock exchanges
BingoBoingo: Sometime late last year, a publication released an article on Bitcoin Barons or Bitcoin movers and shakers
that was linked
to recently and I can't seem
to find
the link anymore. Among
the listed names were Nefario, Diablo-D3, and Caldwell. It came from a fairly major publication. If any of
the aspiring bitpoor are listening on
this channel or reading
the logs, I'm offering a 0.025 BTC bounty
to anyone who can find
the link.
fiat500: no shortage of
those in
the bitcoin scene
thats for sure
fiat500: anyway, he strikes me as a mafioso more
than anything
pankkake: I
thought he was pretty conservative, indeed
fiat500: (he volunteered
this info and link himself, and was very proud of it
too)
fiat500: google is no help, if anyone has chatlogs from #bitfunder
the link will be in
there
fiat500: not sure what website he ran exactly, but he stopped when
they raided kim dotcom
pankkake: I only found his weird hosting company on archive.org which at one
time was a "buy a hosting business" page
fiat500: he
then moved on
to
the filesharing scene
fiat500: there are videos of
this you can find online
fiat500: mid 90's he built
this 3d strip club/sex simulator
that he
tried
to sell
to strip clubs so
they can expand
their user base
pankkake: interestingly both claim
they don't list scams, in some way
BingoBoingo: I kind of wonder if
the end game for Havelock is closure or more of a disintegration into a cryptostocks like ghetto
BingoBoingo: pankkake: In
that sense
though Labcoin also "recruited" people
pankkake: which is better
than, say, kSLAUTHER only recruiting his family
pankkake: he seems
to have recruited people actually
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Seriously case number 1 for outsourcing communications on bitcointalk is
the potential
to reveal your enterprise is actually just a couple of dudes playing on
the forums for 20+ hours a day.
pankkake: he sent me a nonsensical PM
too
pankkake: seriously I am
the only one WTFing?
iwilcox: What do you contribute
to society, defaced?
ozbot: European watchdog
throws cold water on Bitcoin
mike_c: hehe,
this must be old.
Apocalyptic: i'm sure you are you, how is
that revelant
to why you're not wishing
to work @vupen eludes me