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BingoBoingo: DogeCOin, SO thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.0
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No, It's a scrypt altcoin, roughly 100 billion coins if I counted the zeros right glancing at it.
mircea_popescu: i thought we were kidding around
mircea_popescu: holy shit, dogecoin is an actual thing ?
mircea_popescu: i don't trust auto-anything.
BingoBoingo: I usually just left click links. I forget that there's 800 different ways to move them from the IRC client to the browser.
mircea_popescu: anyway, you might wish to do your htaccess tolerantly, so http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/12/15/dogecoin-the-impeding-danger-of-old-meme/%20So%20Doge still resolves
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo turns out i had copied ther whole line
pankkake: I wget -r trilema but besides a few old blog headers nothing much interesting
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "Well this is somewhat embarrassing, isn’t it?"
diametric: mircea_popescu: so i take it you've been informed of my digital fabrication abilities?
BingoBoingo: Since I seem to get most of my traffic from addressing n00b traps http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/12/15/dogecoin-the-impeding-danger-of-old-meme/ So Doge
mircea_popescu: apparently google imaging "site:trilema.com tits" and other dirty words yields a bevy of cool stuff.
kakobrekla: "get me some sushi and some raw usagi! And bring a spoon, cant put my eyes out with these sticks even if i wanted"
nubbins`: i think the first thing i sold was a btc logo t-shirt
nubbins`: i had bought about $2000 worth of btc before i realized that it made far more sense to sell goods and services for btc
mircea_popescu: i thought usagi sold his guitar.
kakobrekla: better tortilla than usagi
mircea_popescu: the uppitty tortilla character supposedly got into btc by trading his silver stash
nubbins`: i guess never really occurred to me, as i've only done the opposite
nubbins`: well, the alternative (that he's buying btc with fiat via PMs) makes a lot more sense
nubbins`: that may not be the case
nubbins`: ah, i guess i'm just making the assumption that he initially bought these metals with btc
nubbins`: just kind of odd to see people selling metals for btc these days
nubbins`: not a ton
mircea_popescu: depending how your offline stuff is set up you might not even be able to log in 60 seconds.
nubbins`: cutting my teeth on a related project right now
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i still have plans to make a nice print of it some day
nubbins`: you have any idea how fucking hard it is to auth in 60 seconds? D;
mircea_popescu: fucking historical too, like some guy goiing "o yeah, and then i bought the 3rd share printed in the us"
nubbins`: hey! thanks
mircea_popescu: ;;rate nubbins` 2 One of the first Stock Warrant holders.
pankkake: blame the `
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: speaking of ratings, how about giving me some love one of these days?
nubbins`: "i'm rating this guy -10 because he scammed wrinklemonster"
nubbins`: exopy describes how complicated it is to find the exits
mircea_popescu: you know exopy is much cuter than epoxy. i wonder why they didn't call it exopy.
mircea_popescu: no matter what you do you'll end up with this tradeoff.
mircea_popescu: i don't really see a better way tbh.
nanotube: it was just an expedient method to stop rating spam/shilling in its tracks.
nanotube: all the code is foss. wanna spin up your own bot, nobody's stopping you.
mircea_popescu: i think nano'd be amenable to the arrangement.
mircea_popescu: i suppose a decent solution for this is for an interested 3rd party to make dubble, which looks from dub's perspective
asciilifeform: fixed then. got our tyrant plugged in.
mircea_popescu: since he runs gribble there's some sense to this (as grible could reasonably use his rating to see the world)
mircea_popescu: well it used to be a 0 total, apparently nanotube improved it so it's 0 to him
asciilifeform: except, if we are told correctly, for the 0-cutoff
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: even the puppies? D;
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nobody reallty uses the global totals that's sane
asciilifeform: any user must be viewed through the lens of a selected other.
mircea_popescu: same is true of houses, women, puppies, clouds, wjhat have you
asciilifeform: easy fix for wot (was gonna write this myself before i ever heard of btc) is: no global totals.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` thing about this world is that most of everything in it is less than useless.
nubbins`: thing about the wot is that most of the ratings are less than useless
mircea_popescu: dub the funny thing is, gmaxwell himself is like 3 angry people away from oblivion
dub: stamit is weird and has entitlement issues in that he thinks being a bag of air breathing meat entitles him to some basic rights
asciilifeform: the other way to avoid 'imperium in imperio' in a wot is: a tyrant.
asciilifeform: proof of stake? then who'd need wot. just have people sign 'i like mr. xyz' with an addr. key
mircea_popescu: or is it one of those, "we can't stand censorship that's not directed at the enemy"
dub: 'derp derp derp doing this will make gmaxwell like me'
mircea_popescu: "I haven't traded with this guy, but I've heard from people I trust that he has used legal intimidation to force censorship of people's ratings of him. "
mircea_popescu: the counter to this is that if you don't do this, anyone can end up -infinity by the effect of endless socks
asciilifeform: wait, everyone's rating counts towards this purpose equally?
dub: key is that nanotube has a Trust Cabal effect
mircea_popescu: so the argument that wot is broken says that you can't rate unless you're above 0 and idiots can get you below 0 ?
mircea_popescu: dub is this -otc drama ?
asciilifeform: since this is important, i'll repeat it: you can have a cryptowidget that nukes itself when disassembled, circuits potted in unobtainium, etc. or you can have one whose function you can personally verify. can't have both. 'fried ice.'
truffles: gmaxwell that douche
dub: rules say if your trust web with nanotube is <0 you can't use the system
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is "thelordoftime"
mircea_popescu: i seem to recall stamit being sanwe.
dub: story is this guy has some kind of personality issue where he can
asciilifeform: but then you risk loss on dead battery, airport xray, etc.
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 you could, but think of the effort.
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: you could pre-sign push commands for 1 satoshi a few billion times (or withdraw commands, or whatever)
Vexual: nintendo has that exopy that will cunt up a chip if you try to get it off
asciilifeform: 1) read the (to be published) design docs
asciilifeform: the only definite promise is that the key cannot be exfiltrated silently by the attached pc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so suppose i want to extract the key so i can make a mpex acct and sell it ands then later steal the guy's shit. how do i do it ?
jurov: Vexual: asciilifeform posted a paper exactly about that yest
asciilifeform: so the latter isn't in the mix
asciilifeform: see, there are two contradictory design objectives
jurov: no need to extract the keys, prepared in advance PUSH will do
asciilifeform: resistance to physical attack is not on the menu. (if you want this, encase yours in concrete.)
jurov: hmmmmmmm.... so a bunch of smaller then
pizzaman1337: but then you need to keep that safe too
mircea_popescu: (trivial to code into your pympex or w/e you use, obviously)
pizzaman1337: every time you did anything
mircea_popescu: you'd have to keep it updated.
mircea_popescu: if you know what your shit will be like atg the time of demise.
mircea_popescu: now this is true. course is risky, if your key falls in the fucking pit and dies, you're sol
jurov: pizzaman1337: if you used a cardano for mpex trade, then it would be feasible to sell the acct
kakobrekla: its not suppose to be aesthetically appearling
fiat500: i laughed my ass off at the thought of jurov having to shuttle briefcases of cash for coinbr uses
Vexual: i told them not to open the vial
mircea_popescu: meanwhile : 84 cases of the plague w/ 40% mortality in Madagascar -- it has morphed from the original bubonic plague to pneumonic plague, easily transmissable...
Vexual: the mention of suitcases in this channel will propagate to a web article on bitcoin>bin ladens
pizzaman1337: I'm curious to see what/if any affect X.EUR might have on things outside mpex/b-c
ozbot: MPOE bonds historical data, Dec 2012 - Nov 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: the options tho, people made bank there