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asciilifeform: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.8.4/../../../../lib64/libpthread.a: error adding symbols: Bad value
asciilifeform: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.8.4/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.8.4/../../../../lib64/libpthread.a(pthread_cond_wait.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `__gcc_personality_v0' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
trinque: nubbins`: what does export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$OURLIBS/lib under the rest of the exports do for you?
nubbins`: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150401/asciilifeform-kills-integer-retardation_8685d541f20bcfe8d8cc9fefba663dd861f7b237.patch
nubbins`: typedef paste u_paste32_t;
trinque: in my /usr/include I see for example this "nettle" thing doing typedef u_int32_t uint32_t;
trinque: holy shit no one knows why there's both a u_int32_t and a uint32_t
jurov: http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Name-Service-Switch.html#Name-Service-Switch
asciilifeform: there's u_int32_t defined in sys/types.h but not uint32_t << ahahahahaha.
trinque: comment above: /* But these were defined by ISO C without the first `_'. */
trinque: asciilifeform: so there's u_int32_t defined in sys/types.h but not uint32_t; I would be interested to see what sys/types.h holds for the other folks
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: don't expect them to walk in voluntarily
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i cannot fathom why it was made this way, other than for the usual reasons.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in so far as i can tell, the problem in question is entirely shot in the head by my dns removal patch.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently he set the record
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu even wrote an essay on the subject.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually it is the dirty secret behind 40 yrs of unix
asciilifeform: i invoke mircea_popescu's maxim that 'if there is anything good in it, it will have to be reinvented naively'
trinque: asciilifeform: current release busts for me on uint32_t as well
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i didn't say 'authorships' but -patents- as we know'em.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: except that usg owns the patents (war trophies!)
nubbins`: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/27365/27365-h/27365-h.htm#Page_59
mats: http://www.ics.uci.edu/~perl/ndss15_opaque_cfi.pdf
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu said that pets can be trained to do anything - make them do this.
hanbot: mircea_popescu hello sir! no cuy at all i tell you!
asciilifeform: do any of you lot have an x86 or x86_64 bitcoind built -with debug symbols still- in ?
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> i dunno anyone offering either of these o.O << my butcher sells llamaburgers
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> today translating bitcoin to everyone. << the book. it must be printed!
mircea_popescu: http://www.demotivation.us/media/demotivators/demotivation.us__ENVY-It-Wears-a-Coat-and-Hides-in-Hallways-1.jpg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it could be packaged in a large suitcase, containing a reel of hose.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you not getting enough fluid ? :D << I survived log catch up time
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didn't you predict that someone would manufacture automatic impregnatrons ? i distinctly recall an essay concerning such
trinque: mircea_popescu: what do you think about the deeds being added to the wiki?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://thesemenette.com/home.html
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i'd say that man drinks the 190 proof
bitstein: mircea_popescu: http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/ redirects to http://deedbot.org/ for me. It's that specific deed link that is redirecting to unregistry.com
bitstein: mircea_popescu, mod6: The deed link at the bottom of http://thebitcoin.foundation/declaration.txt redirects to a weird domain registration site.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu> but i never put any serious effort into electrical engineering! << said the chap with his own bitcoind running on soviet trinary comp
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's only because you're a young fox.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=1181853joe_sacco_buffoons_tale.png << l33t w4r3z scan. this comic was probably not intentionally about the collapse of fiat world, but is a good parable for it regardless.
asciilifeform: if using gxemul, i was speaking specifically of http://gxemul.sourceforge.net/gxemul-stable/doc/machines/machine_testmips.html
asciilifeform: including i386 and x86_64
mod6: x86_64
asciilifeform: mod6: say i publish a recipe for constructing said image (runs on, e.g., qemu-system-mipsel). and then you do it, and we learn that your disk image differs from mine which differs from nubbins` which differs from mircea_popescu's etc
asciilifeform: nor should nubbins`, or ben_vulpes, or the rest.
asciilifeform: <ben_vulpes> what's the One True Build Target for La Serenissima? << why asking -me-, l0l
mod6: here's the build log: http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-x86_32-bitcoind-static.txt
mats: funkenstein_: read the extract
assbot: Logged on 01-04-2015 22:18:14; ascii_field: nubbins`: but even something like living in a dwelling without the company of strangers is a titanically expensive luxury in most of the world
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: does that remind you of arguments in favour of any modern cryptosystem? how about ecdsa, aha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... dude what the fuck is so very convenient about all the rotor bs i dunno << short keys
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> in that "proof of idempotence" has generally been orders of magnitude more successful at proving the proving party has no idea what proving means << didn't say it would be easy. or that the existing 'state of the art' is any kind of guide.
asciilifeform: http://awards.acm.org/award_winners/boneh_4125431.cfm ^ from mats's link
nubbins`: after renaming all int32_t to boost::int32_t: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=A2M3kkZL
nubbins`: after renaming all uint32_t to boost::uint32_t: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=D7XGyGna
funkenstein_: power rangers added more int types later like arith_uint256
nubbins`: if i manually move the headers over, back to uint32_t errors: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=taiiWaYc
nubbins`: asciilifeform mod6 ben_vulpes and others: on a side note, auto.sh doesn't put the openssl headers in /ourlibs/
funkenstein_: mike_c, thank you
mike_c: funkenstein_: blockchain sync progress on a SSD vs. 5400 rpm platters.
funkenstein_: !up diana_coman
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i guess we're technically two-and-a-half-dogland: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/labradoodle-marketing-fetches-2-500-puppy-price-1.3018419
nubbins`: obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au1AN_MC6Rg
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 03:34:34; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu:fork the chain or maintain the historical copy. << third option: make new apparatus, prove idempotence.
decimation: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/System_3_punch_card.jpg
decimation: heh even the russian version is a slightly more advanced 'enigma' machine http://www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/fialka/m125_3/index.htm
decimation: apparently there was a 'russian-only' version of the machine: http://www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/fialka/m125_3/rus.htm
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2015 06:16:02; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: before i fall asleep, i remembered to tell, that there actually were 'integrated circuits' in ussr that were built in the way you suggest
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu must have been thinking of this machine the other day.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu:fork the chain or maintain the historical copy. << third option: make new apparatus, prove idempotence.
decimation: mircea_popescu: perhaps, but to fully realize it usg would have to publicly destroy the dollar bezzle
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has it
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 02:24:41; asciilifeform: this is 'the hole through which the night walks in', to borrow a mircea_popescuism
asciilifeform: nubbins`: but applying the portatronic patch turns my uint32_t error into an int64_t error << apply the -other- patch. the one from 2hrs ago.
nubbins`: asciilifeform haven't peeked at your latest mail yet, but applying the portatronic patch turns my uint32_t error into an int64_t error
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I know openbsd has a plan for governance post-Theo. The exact plans are opaque to me. It would be abberant for Beck to naturally outlive Theo, but... known unknown
decimation: mircea_popescu: note that china knows how this game works; is taking 'possession' of the south china sea
asciilifeform: <ben_vulpes> salesforce either << usg is not the post office. usg is precisely the folks who perpetrate things such as 'salesforce.'
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Perhaps re-read http://cryptome.org/2015/03/snowden-cia-fraud.htm though beast has a dissciative mental disorder and this brave soul reporting suffers isolation the thread doesn't tear
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: take jupiter.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> maybe not where you live. << You may know there where, but not the how to look
asciilifeform: say ben_vulpes sells aluminum siding. by the gigatonne.
asciilifeform: this is 'the hole through which the night walks in', to borrow a mircea_popescuism ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 21:33:29; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform stuck with math proven equivalence.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: but recall the thread where mircea_popescu demanded mathematical proof.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu check it out ^
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150128/asciilifeform-porta-tronic_67d6162e1cc78b3a6aca584e2123e59fdee189f6.patch
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: but you are running ahead of the class even here.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aha
gribble: Ravenscar profile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravenscar_profile>; Guide for the use of the Ada Ravenscar Profile in high ... - SIGAda: <http://www.sigada.org/ada_letters/jun2004/ravenscar_article.pdf>; The SPARK Ravenscar Profile - AdaCore: <http://docs.adacore.com/sparkdocs-docs/Examiner_Ravenscar.htm>
decimation: ben_vulpes: what linux/unix are you most familiar with?
decimation: ben_vulpes: I use rhel because I know it
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: without a full deturding of a stack there likely can not be a single one blessed OS
BingoBoingo: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/01/how_to_spaff_240_million_by_going_organic/
mircea_popescu: "/home/stas/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/ourlibs/include/boost/asio/detail/impl/socket_ops.ipp:2900: warning: Using 'getaddrinfo' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking" ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is no escape from this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ultimately we audit the bins
asciilifeform: make: *** [install_docs] Error 1
asciilifeform: Makefile:640: recipe for target 'install_docs' failed
mod6: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.8.3/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lcrypto