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mircea_popescu: and also the abundance of time it generously provides.
mircea_popescu: easy to stack games, especially when you have the excuse of material scarcity the prison offers
asciilifeform: (one common meaning outside the prison)
asciilifeform: he things 'nothing'
asciilifeform: new prisoner is asked to gamble, he asks what the stakes will be, told: ☟︎
mircea_popescu: he has a point in that i suspect it's perhaps the easiest way to explain to the layman in laymen terms what exactly is the difference separating "me" or "us" from "them". teh fuffle readily makes sense or not at all.
asciilifeform: mr. o neglects to mention another well-known meaning of фуфло - 'arsehole', specifically in the prison-buggery sense of the word.
mircea_popescu: yeah, this article should be linked more often.
mircea_popescu: (Perhaps this psychological mechanism accounts for the fact the Anglo-Saxon tribe still has the vestigial word but no longer remembers its meaning.)
mircea_popescu: i mean, 1k tons, 1bn grams
mircea_popescu: russia does not hold 1bn tons
asciilifeform: possibly mongolia (or some other entirely un-drilled place) is the real champ.
mircea_popescu: isarescu squirreled away ~127 tons of the stuff, and that's >6 grams per capita.
mircea_popescu: "It seems that the Russians are better-equipped to survive financial collapse than just about anyone else. They have formidable reserves of gold and foreign currency to soften the downward slide. " << actually, the romanians have more.
mircea_popescu: yeah, i think i read this before
asciilifeform: he was the fellow who introduced me to 'bezzle'
mircea_popescu: it's not the language tho. it's the minds. language is but a cloth.
mircea_popescu: then i follow your link, and what do i see ? "In the unfolding global financial collapse, it is not just our accounts and balance sheets that come up short, but our language as well."
mircea_popescu: lmao! re your club orlov : i was persuaded to add a disclaimer to my article, which reads "but before you run to the interpretative races be advised that the “money” sybol is used correctly in its proper sense, rather than in what mistaken cvasi-definition you might have intuited for yourself, and this use colors the meaning of “time” too."
mircea_popescu: you mean the girl on the porn set ?
asciilifeform: also reminds me of orlov's essay on 'fufflers' and their symbiotic relation with the 'victims'
ozbot: The stuple. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuple/ << the treatment.
asciilifeform: $1B, in every major city, and no advertising; no one thinks of it, or hears of it on tv, unless it burns down
asciilifeform: flashiness has very little to do with actual use
asciilifeform: 'my candle burns at both ends, it will not last the night; but ah my foes, and oh my friends, it gives a lovely light!'
mircea_popescu: hence why it took a \while for fuelbombs
asciilifeform: but the everyday person wouldn't suspect it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the scammers who 'appear big' are reminiscent of the well-known factoid of dynamite being considerably less energetic, per gram, than gasoline
Duffer1: how to remove yourself from the equation..
mircea_popescu: way to turn "more" into definitely less, as it were.
mircea_popescu: but then i'm the guy worth a billion dollars, and if you add their loot all together, you don't get a billion.
mircea_popescu: the irony here being that if you take the list of 100+ scammers they - each and every one of them - were at some point "bigger than me", in a particular "media's eye" view of the table.
mircea_popescu: well equally so for S, he's also doomed being part of that nonsense.
Duffer1: because s doesn't have time (or taken time to learn), he's doomed to be the s in the s + S = failure tuple
mircea_popescu: there we go, i'm happy with this model. it's a tuple.
mircea_popescu: the union becomes pernicious in that s's capital could be useful irrespective of him, but S's mental issues lock s out.
mircea_popescu: and that's what the scammer can't, fundamentally, have.
mircea_popescu: capital can be good. minutious attention to irrelevant detail can also be good. both need a lot of central thinking to actualise their potential utility,
mircea_popescu: the sad part of this otherwise heroic arrangement is, however, that it STILL doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: s naturally tries to use his relative advantage to defeat a problem, S equally so. together, they make a team. the alleged "theft" is nothing of the kind, teams reallocate resources all the time on common convention, which is hwat's happening here too.
mircea_popescu: he is then stuck, but also unable to admit this to himself.
mircea_popescu: for whatever reason, such as having a bad attitude to authority coupled with a duplicitous nature, he has managed to both escape re-education and avoid actually putting his mind to useful purpose.
mircea_popescu: the scammer, let him be known as S, has been doing nothing but contemplating, the minutious detail that is otherwise irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: so basically the sucker's life is this escalating avalanche of unpaid time debts which he keeps extending and extending for more and more ridiculous interest.
mircea_popescu: and as a result learning fa for him is "learn all calculus from fractions onward", which is easily months of HIS time (it'd be a lot less time for someone a lot more literate, because of the way economies of scale work in matters of the mind. however, this is not him)
mircea_popescu: which he mostly didn't have the time t odo because in junior high he didn't have the time to properly consider fractions,
mircea_popescu: the sucker, let him be known as s, is in a rush. he has not the time to completely consider things, and this is built on a lengthy historical tradition of the same : he also "did not have the time" to properly consider functional analysis in highschool,
mircea_popescu: but let me expound on the capital/time stupud tuple.
Duffer1: i hang out in here to learn
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the farmer is lamenting that the deer lays dead, no more.
mircea_popescu: in the end scammer and scamee make a tuple.
mircea_popescu: they're time-stupid rather than capital-stupid.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is an exceedingly difficult proposition. my current belief is that mostly they're stupid in a different way.
asciilifeform: the way i see it, it's rather like a farmer lamenting that a rotting deer carcass in his field is being eaten by maggots, rather than himself
asciilifeform: and so on, up the foodchain
asciilifeform: but the people doing the fleecing, presumably have a bit more brain, and will do something moderately intelligent
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 you recall the guy a day or two ago with the "200% is 200% no matter how you cut it" ?
mircea_popescu: this is experimentally true.
asciilifeform: if not doge, then lolcatcoin, or whatnot
asciilifeform: what i meant earlier was, the 'doge' investors are going to do something idiotic with their coin, regardless of what happens
Duffer1: i don't disagree with you, i'm curious what the issue is though
mircea_popescu: does a guy in a pink hat appear to be a pimp ?
mircea_popescu: understand, thinking is not a crime. not thinking however is. you can't just gloss over stuff.
Duffer1: they 'appear' to be trying to go legal, but appear is my laymans perspective
mircea_popescu: this is the hardest job in all of banking, credit officer.
mircea_popescu: this is the topic of expertise. man walks into a bank, appears to intend to start a business. hoiw do you decide if you finance him ?
mircea_popescu: there is nothing more deceiving than appearance. how do you judge ?
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 what makes you think you are qualified to judge whether this is the case ?
Duffer1: they appear to be making a try at a legal exchange
asciilifeform: that was more or less my first post on the subject
mircea_popescu: in the end it's just a blank stare with a "wat"
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i think this may well be why otherwise intelligent people decide bitcoin is beyond stupid. they probably go through this intellectual cycle, "o, let's examine the data re this thing. what's intel got ? o wait, what ? you say what ? did what ? what ?"
asciilifeform: the occasional luser falls into crucible; free carbon that day.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, you're right, i've just gone through five minutes of disbelief. i'm fine now.
mircea_popescu: that's the news. this is how people think the reports of an it project look.
mircea_popescu: 13/12/13 ; Sadly the beta release we wanted will be delayed by a week or so, more details in the newsletter ; 27/11/13 We have the gui wireframes back from designers..
mircea_popescu: 24/12/13 Countdown reset due to delays, mailshot has copies of screenshots...merry xmas all
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform NOT when barnum thinks he's carnegie and his visitors think they're there spinning the world.
mircea_popescu: "Ciphertrade is a fantastic new service that will change the way you work"Ciphertrade is a fantastic new service that will change the way you work.". does that "fantastic" only sound krameresque to me ?
asciilifeform: p. t. barnum and carnegie can co-exist
mircea_popescu: endgame is at least 20 years away. the fuck im gonna do, that's my youth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no because they keep making doges.
asciilifeform: well, eventually all the coin will be in the hands of people with brains. ☟︎
ozbot: Kate Craig-Wood - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Craig-Wood << check out self-shipping wiki. arguably taaki's is better because at least he's original in his stupidity.
mircea_popescu: it has to be a mental disease. no other way to explain this.
mircea_popescu: teh leading british entrepreneur that was born last june and did a... leading green it company.
mircea_popescu: no other way to put is.
mircea_popescu: you people have what's technically known as a death wish.
mircea_popescu: bwahaha what do my eyes read. so some nut with a ltc denominated pnb is "making an exchange" and that's where the noobdom is all excited to go ?
kakobrekla: its all building up to my new brand name, SSSS
BingoBoingo: And yes, every forum bidding war looks the fucking same.
BingoBoingo: Well, your slanderous soul seems to have forced you into observing an unnatural cleanliness.
kakobrekla: but i guess you see one, you seen them all
kakobrekla: it seems i completley missed the latter battle
BingoBoingo: B/(asic) vs. BFL was big, but TF vs. BFL seemed, on the forum, Bigger. THen again the forum sucks and continues to suck
BingoBoingo: Yeah. The advertising battle was hotter late 2013 though... (fuck that is already late 2013?)
kakobrekla: sometime early 2013 i think
kakobrekla: yeah regardless of that facts there was an advertising battle at the time of uncertanty