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the20year1: Our median individual income is around $28k/yr , the median plumber rate is $80/hr
the20year1: Most of the skilled trades are dying for workers
the20year1: I doubt it, the gas line I mentioned runs from colorado to PA
truffles: so these jobs that no one wants are only available in Ohio?
KRS|Gotyawallet: is that benkay's bls statistic though
the20year1: 7.5% unemployment rate, according to bls
KRS|Gotyawallet: that old guy with the spikey white hair has been spotted on the interwebz, sometime during this christmas holiday http://forums.newart.com/phpbb/download/file.php?id=145319&mode=view
truffles: what town?
the20year1: My contractor says the same thing, no one wants to work, he approached a half dozen guys who keep complaining about there being no jobs in town. Offered $15/hr starting pay, none would do it
KRS|Gotyawallet: cant tell which is the troll
truffles: benkay and the20year1 must be trollin now
benkay: modern hippies would rather not work than take a job that keeps them off the reefer
the20year1: Trans-state oil lines that run underground, you go from station to station checking readings, making sure lines are being maintained and built
benkay: i got out of the atom-smashing business a while ago
truffles: like thats some pretty job omg
benkay: yeah man if you like putting your hands on the line every time you go to work
the20year1: One is a line manager for one of the largest power co-ops in the US, he can't keep anyone
benkay: precisely. over educated and unwilling to work manual jobs.
the20year1: they have dozens of jobs available, no one wants them
benkay: and zero americans electing to not get degrees.
the20year1: I know two guys that have told me more than once, if I wanted to weld/tend oil lines i could start off making $60k-$70k a year
the20year1: the thing is , there are tons of great jobs out there that don't require college degrees
Duffer1: truffles an amount that can sustain you without forced reliance on a welfare system
truffles: everyone cant get that nice office job like u benkay
benkay: it's like counting labor camps in the employment numbers
benkay: but hey they're 'employed'
benkay: the whole notion is fucked. there's a generation out there laboring at fast food operations under a few tens of thousands of dollars of debt undertaken for useless degrees.
KRS|Gotyawallet: he might be right but i have no comment beyond that
benkay: there are some slim pickings of useful information out there.
KRS|Gotyawallet: the20year1- thanks but see what benkay said
benkay: dig into the conspiracy theory areas yourself
Duffer1: they stop counting those that stop looking (are forced off benefits)
the20year1: unemployment I believe has been changed twice
KRS|Gotyawallet: benkay where else can one go for those stats?
the20year1: laborparticipation is the one standard that hasn't been changed since the 80s
benkay: you guys eat these government employment statistics up wholly credulously
KRS|Gotyawallet: bekay I think its near 8%
KRS|Gotyawallet: Dyffer1 good point- i was shocked after going to college to see just how worthless a degree was..i felt like i wasted my time, but I'm happy to have been educated.
the20year1: According to BLS it isn't
benkay: and it's not there now?!
the20year1: That too
KRS|Gotyawallet: i think early 80's unemplyment in the US was near 14%
the20year1: Locally, a typical waitress could go out, and buy a lower end house with a FHA mortgage for her median income, alone
the20year1: Significantly lower cost of living, easier time getting a job
the20year1: most of the people i know who were adults during the 80s did extraordinarily well
KRS|Gotyawallet: makes me wonder how my parents did so well..even considering the high unemployment of the early-mid 80's
kakobrekla: buy before too late
the20year1: granted the late 70s weren't too easy on inflation
the20year1: Digital currency is the bigges threat because it's so easy to do, compared to physical stuff
KRS|Gotyawallet: thinking everything up until now, but with the addition of digital currency
KRS|Gotyawallet: I don't think the FED has ever been under so much attack as this day and age
mircea_popescu: if there's anyone left with a working brain over there
Duffer1: you know.. just to make it weird
KRS|Gotyawallet: folks within the FED are probably starting to poop their pants a little on the liquid side 1Q14
kakobrekla: Dogs preferred to excrete with the body being aligned along the North-south axis under calm MF conditions.
ozbot: Frontiers in Zoology | Abstract | Dogs are sensitive to small variations of the Earth's magnetic fie
pankkake: and its silver to gold TeslaCoin
KRS|Gotyawallet: they dont want to put the name 'bitcoin' out there right away because it seems they are offering investment plans on how to invest in it
pankkake: what the fuck is this
pankkake: why the fuck are they using edison
KRS|Gotyawallet: yeah the video is moving
pankkake: KRS|Gotyawallet: lol the investor comments on the bottom look so like the ones of scams
kakobrekla: also i thought their integration of webkit is going to save them
the20year1: There's our thread on bitcoin talk
kakobrekla: i would have to go way back to get a non sucky version
KRS|Gotyawallet: cant find it but..did you guys see this http://pro.moneymappress.com/NVXBITCOIN49/WNVXPC41/
mircea_popescu: not like you have to use their most recent brainfuck, or there's any incentive to do so
pankkake: it's a fucking option, put it behind an "Avanced do not go there"
kakobrekla: "http or https is too techical for people"
kakobrekla: you know what is the reasoning for that option removal
pankkake: the Chrome devs refuse to put an option, and close any bug on the subject without discussion
truffles: or rather lacking too much
truffles: i started using opera to get away from firefox, it required too much !
kakobrekla: they decided to remove the option to show full url tards.
mircea_popescu: fun fact : with internet kid at plastics factory. kid notices large HTPP spelled out somewhere, decides they've misspelled http
VanCleef: i dont like them because they are commiting crimes against nature
mircea_popescu: ok, to make the joke : "i don't hate sick people"
VanCleef: i'm cool with racism as long as we can be homophobic too
truffles: pankkake not necessarily that
mircea_popescu: but outside of the agent, his purpose and his circumstances, they're just that, cheese.
mircea_popescu: yes well. cheese is a particular way to process milk. racism is a particular way to process difference.
pankkake: less so? as in, if racism justifies slavery it's better than racism alone?
truffles: i see something wrong with it, but less so if its a means to an end
mircea_popescu: any more than there's anything wrong with cheese.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing intrinsic to intelligence that prevents racism (as you define it) nor is there in fact anything wrong with racism in principle
truffles: but were they doing so cuz they felt it or cuz of actual goals
KRS|Gotyawallet: i saw something on bitcoin tonight on tv- it was amazingly positive- its one of those off-brand "news" broadcasts. I shall see if I can find it.
KRS|Gotyawallet: could be a number of different reasons, imo most of the time it has something to do with their personality type
KRS|Gotyawallet: yeah truffles you are right about that, i'm not sure what to make of it myself
KRS|Gotyawallet: thanks- looking more into this
KRS|Gotyawallet: Tropes Are Tools, not clichés. - this will help me take a more critical approach to media
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mircea_popescu: my brain is still singed from the last binge
mircea_popescu: <KRS|Gotyawallet> its like information overload. << try reading tvtropes sometime
truffles: sometimes some really smart ppl r so closed-minded or narrow minded and it kinda surprises me too much
KRS|Gotyawallet: yea they do help, anything that floats to the top of their froth seems to be worth looking at for a final decision as to whether its worth my time or not
truffles: trolls prob would help u with filtering, putting them on ignore discourages this skill
KRS|Gotyawallet: i started smoking these e-cigs (vaporizors) this one is english toffee. i like it so far
KRS|Gotyawallet: its like information overload..i'm having trouble digesting so much news and information sometimes. hard to keep up with and exhausting. i'm afraid i might miss something so i work real hard at it. the world moves pretty fast.