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mircea_popescu: it'd be really hard to say "My name is Joe Schmoe and I've been working WS for 20 years"
jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1u8c0r/if_you_own_3000_or_more_btc_wall_street_wants/ someone needs to send these people to #assets
mircea_popescu: b0n1 you mean whether they'l;l be delayed ?
jcpham: all my boxen were rooted when i got to work
zacm: are we all ready for the morph into govcoin? https://pay.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1u89qv/why_the_nsa_revelations_make_me_worried_about_the/
KRS1: Ah sunrise here on the US east coast. Gonna go enjoy the fresh air with a cigarette.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask KRS1!~userid@c-50-143-86-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net. Trust relationship from user KRS1 to user KRS1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=KRS1&dest=KRS1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=KRS1 | Rated since: never
mircea_popescu: aww didn't mean to hurt his feelers ;/
Duffer1: i'll wait till he starts charging for it, then say it sucks so i can get cheaper price
mircea_popescu: now we can tell him his blog sucks all the time
Duffer1: easy to pick on
Duffer1: ah i didn't mean ben's article, i meant the bloomberg one
mircea_popescu: no new year's in thieves' land
gribble: ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 18 hours, 8 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> CySEC is the Cyprus Exchange
mircea_popescu: ;;seen ThickAsThieves
mircea_popescu: there's no sloppy and trite prize
mircea_popescu: you can be sloppy and genius, you can be trite and thorough.
mircea_popescu: kinda low hanging, kinda not put the effort into doing the whole job, either.
benkay: foreskin, though...
KRS1: no matter how old i get i never seem to have enough foresight
KRS1: heh thanks
KRS|Gotyawallet: Duffer1: I never understood that about TaT and considering what he does
Duffer1: bro take a second to say that outloud :)
KRS|Gotyawallet: theres another KRS so I was going to slowly change over..thanks for making me realize this.
Duffer1: i cringe everytime i see thick-as-thieves
Duffer1: rather unfortunate username for that plan though man
benkay: firing up an #otc reputation a few months ago and ramping up your trades looks like a real good idea in retrospect, doesn't it?
benkay: i suppose he leaves the whys and wherefores to the low hanging fruits
benkay: mp says these things and everyone's like "u crazy romanian:
KRS|Gotyawallet: i think its worth looking at then-for sure thanks
KRS|Gotyawallet: ok i was starting to think along those lines- gotcha.
benkay: or whatever the eurobutt equivalent is.
benkay: some people don't really feel like going through the AML/KYC rectal analysis.
KRS|Gotyawallet: oh i see umm i'm not sure what you mean about the second part
benkay: a good price for a tiny amount of butts, or a clean transaction that keeps your name out of the dirt?
Duffer1: oh missed that
benkay: you'll note the link to my otc profile at the bottom of the page.
benkay: Duffer1: yes, that's mine.
benkay: not now. not for ten years, likely as not. and maybe even local fiat is more useful at that point, and those who are lucky enough to hold butts will transfer in and out of local fiat scrip as appropriate for their cashflow needs.
benkay: "to some degree" can be all sorts of things: international transfers, intergenerational transfers, highly obscured transfers, uninterdictable transfers
Duffer1: was that mihm article yours benkay?
Duffer1: if everyone just held then it would be a pure speculation vehicle for fiat and not much else
Duffer1: i dunno man, people still need to treat it as a currency to some degree
benkay: thanks for the post idea: bitcoins aren't for spending. stop being retarded, silicon valley.
benkay: and why would i do that now!?
Duffer1: might even be able to pay btc for it too
benkay: come march i'll be able to bike across the bridge and get my ganj on in the free market too.
benkay: quality of us "journalism" has declined to the point where the journos are now the story and the story is a picture
benkay: gotta give the hipsters something to chew on
pankkake: cascadia: first province of the cryptostate
benkay: regarding the recent Bloomberg piece: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/01/02_the-mad-mad-mad-mad-mr-mihm.html
mircea_popescu: yes, i'm the real dude.
ohider: ok I'm out stay tuned boco.bit will be up this month
Duffer1: based on the replies you got i'd say it's probably not a nick squater :P
ohider: @mircea_popecsu are you the real dude
BingoBoingo: Dunno that bitmessage is too worth looking into, there seems to be some vulnerabilities associated with how it works
BingoBoingo: Completely safe untraceable email isn't a thing. You need to worry more about protecting messages than trying to protect the channel.
ohider: is there such a thing?
ohider: i need to setup a safe email
mircea_popescu: incredible how often that is said about google these days
BingoBoingo: That last link http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc is the more important one
Duffer1: try the bitcoin-otc link, that'll have web of trust, otc, gribble etc
BingoBoingo: ohider: Or mayb flip the order of reading and registering aroud
mircea_popescu: not to imply there's anything wrong with mr newark.
BingoBoingo: ohider: Seems like it's time for you to register with Gribble and get to reading
mircea_popescu: im gonna print these out for when i'm old. just too good stuff.
mircea_popescu: a) the craigslist guy isn't a billionaire ; b) i am.
Duffer1: certainly but is the risk an par with the reward
ohider: if something has value there are ways of making money off it
ohider: im not initially worried about making money with the marketplace
mircea_popescu: they're there to go to college.
Duffer1: but to take that one step further into facilitating drug trade, i don't believe you're ready to hide from the awesome and terrifying might of the usgov
mircea_popescu: except college kids rarely are part of the local community
Duffer1: i think a bitcoin based localized community market is a great idea, maybe not so profitable but still something i think people would use
mircea_popescu: or at least so they said.
mircea_popescu: for instance, the silkroad kid they caught by discovering that he came here going "hey guise, how would someone make like a bitcoin tor craigslist"
ohider: but on top of exclusively buying illegal contraband it actually had a higher purpose
Duffer1: it would be absurdly easy to shut the whole network down
ohider: imagine if silk road was exclusive to a small community
mircea_popescu: well, that feeling of being in has a way of turning into a reality of being in.
ohider: just those kids who are willing to do the work
ohider: theres a feeling of being "in" when your privy to ways of getting illegal shit
Duffer1: silk road was just bitcoin and tor
Duffer1: they'd have to 1 - know about and use bitcoin and special handling for .bit domains, 2 - will have to exist at your school exclusively, 3 - understand bitmessage communication, 4 - do drugs
Duffer1: your target market just doesn't exist man
BingoBoingo: And all of these platforms for some tiny consumer use
ohider: if joeshmo user wants to buy an 8ball
Duffer1: with each of the platforms you're talking about using, you're adding another hurdle for joeshmo customer
ohider: just give them the means through bitcoin. bit message to do whatever they wabt
ohider: on my side, the t shirt business is legit legal
ohider: i might be selling t shirts or i might be selling contraband
ohider: i post my ad for these shirts and say hey, heres my bit message address i don't want to discuss financials over email or phone.
ohider: say I'm a seller selling custom t shirts
Duffer1: if users are free to list whatever they went then you'll have to actively police the listings
ohider: it has to be on the furnace above board
Duffer1: a bitcoin crowdsourcing site that's also a craigslist like marketplace for anything?
BingoBoingo: ohider: First I'd want to know what university... The wrong one could kill this whole thing at the start
ohider: i don't want to reinvent the wheel but it will be a craigslist/kickstart for anything college kids want
ohider: it will be a site that only students can register accounts on but anyone can view/donate
ohider: i want my site to be exclusive to the university that i go to