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benkay: but lisp is so awesome
that rich hickey wrapped it around
the jvm and made it almost invisible
BingoBoingo: I dunno why no one else wanted it,
the Sun monitor had really high DPI for being several years outdated in -04
BingoBoingo: benkay: I don't have very positive feeling for
the JVM, I
think releasing it was a low point for Sun. I say
this as someone who in
their first job after dishwashing had a Sun Ultra 80 as
their work computer because it was
they one
that was available.
benkay: i'll leave
the rusty stradivarius for
the man who can actually play it while i play scales on my plastic 'violin' over here, okay?
benkay: i'm glad
to hack in a lisp with which i can make jars
to stick on windows shops servers for cold hard cash, nahmean?
benkay: and even
though asciilifeform hates hates hates hates clojure, i
think it's an acceptable lisp for mortals who haven't actually played with symbolics machines while we wait for his lazy quixotic ass
to make us
the modern lisp machine
that we deserve
benkay: i'da done
that if i'd stuck with python
BingoBoingo: I'm not doing a bad pace on
the python, but
the language is feeling constraining
benkay: to be
taught, it must be learned.
benkay: programming is a
trade, not a
topic.
BingoBoingo: I have classroom evaluations
that show I'm better
than mediocre at pedagogy.
The problem is WTF do I have
to
teach. For one class I did
the first half I did was Aristotelian syllogisms and
the other was predicate logic for jocks.
benkay: (you'll notice how few of
those
there are)
benkay: tee hee BingoBoingo you're going
to have such fun
benkay: a little childish but a good
text
benkay: all
the colored coins in
the world aren't going
to keep you in a house
the local duke wants for himself.
BingoBoingo: It's like
TAT's blockchain drm suggestion earlier. Blockchains are only practical solutions in so many cases.
benkay: property etc need enforcement. property *is* enforcement. it's enforcement of whose property a
thing is.
benkay: bitcoin is stupid and weird enough: "here! an arbitrary
token! it's cryptographically secure and shit!"
benkay: mastercoin is
the gone-too-far surreal bitcoin
KRS1: of all
the projects
that came across our plates,
this one had
the most negative comments from sources within
the bitcoin community so i was unreluctant
to put any weight behind it
BingoBoingo: KRS1:
The fact
the game wasn't decided until
the last
two minutes
though supports my assertion
that at
the odds offered Auburn ML was a hell of a value.
KRS1: the investment group i belong
to funded some of
their project
KRS1: lol benkay i was starting
to
think about
that
benkay: it's rather ingenious -
they've managed
to break most of
the good features of bitcoin.
BingoBoingo: KRS1: I'm
the person who bet on Auburn
tonight, so I dunno if I am
the right person
to ask.
KRS1: idk enough
to say if its correct or not
BingoBoingo: Looks like line betting lives
to see another day
benkay: hard
to get close
to capital wielders without desks
benkay: hard
to seize opportunities and grow power base from behind a desk
pankkake: that's
the nice
thing about being a slave (or as other call it, employee); you don't have
to care about it
too much
benkay: huge risk in
that style of development.
pankkake: I fear, even more in
the btc world,
that you'd have
to be very specific about
the deliverable
benkay: don't really want a job
though - want more
to have projects
to deliver for fixed bids.
benkay: i want
to book all revenue in btc
benkay: js is somehow worse
though - if
tests are guardrails, ecma is like
the salt flats
pankkake: that is
true of any code really
benkay: feed a poor bitfag who wants only
to work and some btc for his efforts
Duffer1: oh shit i completely forgot about
that game
Duffer1: btw,
top gear UK is a great show even if you're not into cars
ozbot: Run out of Alabama - Offensive cars -
Top Gear - Series 9 - BBC - YouTube
Duffer1: did you see
the
top gear where
the guys drove
through alabama/georgia?
mircea_popescu: jeez, and here i
thought i'm a lone prophet in a sea of denial
mircea_popescu: According
to a recent Pew Research Center survey, more
than five-in-ten members of
the public and roughly six-in-ten members of
the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), a nonpartisan membership organization and
think
tank specializing in U.S. foreign policy, agree
that
the United States plays a less important role around
the world
than it did a decade ago.
benkay: they see
the writing on
the wall w/r/t drug seizures funding
their operations, i gather.
BingoBoingo: Oh, Auburn is still winning at half
time 21-10. However will line betting survive.
pankkake: once I went
to an interview,
they never called me back, but it was mutual
mircea_popescu: you apply for a loan,
they
tell you you're a fucking prole and you may never ever have a loan
mircea_popescu: case 2 : you got
to an interview,
they
tell you you're fucking retarded and get lost
mircea_popescu: case 1 : you go
to an interview,
they never call you back. you apply for a loan,
they never call you back. you give a girl your number, she never calls you
pankkake: unless
they get enough retweets
mircea_popescu: i would guess a large section of
the us poor has never encountered
this situation where an entity pointedly doesn't give a shit about
them
benkay: it's like a smouldering log - but whence
the o2?
mircea_popescu: benkay i
thought it's diff kids carrying
the
torch. perhaps not.
benkay: he can yell for six months at
that rate before
benkay: kid probably makes 2x
that a year.
mircea_popescu: i
thought he was doing more like a public service
thing
benkay: more like if you
think its
too long you probably don't have it in you
to actually read it ;)
pankkake: that bitbet
think will never die
mircea_popescu: sometimes he
talks in french. other
times he
talks in odd words only.
pankkake: I have abandonned my
trilema
TL;DR project :(
BingoBoingo: pankkake: I've
tried
translating MP a few
times.
Talking in
the
third person is
the least
tricky
thing MP does.
pankkake: don't forget mp
talks in
the
third person
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm looking
through my investment records (ie staring wistfully at my vodka) and dun see any record of me having invested in just-dice
benkay: then nsa's name will be
trashed on
the forums forever
benkay: ah just you wait - someone's going
to send in
the .3 butts or w/e for a cardano and scream scam
that it doesn't mine
BingoBoingo: pankkake: I imagine
this
time last year he would have given Blockbet.net an A+++
ozbot: Loper OS » Cardano Prototype
Tidbits:
TRNG Boards.
BingoBoingo: I dunno
that I was
the one
to
tell
that
to dooglus.
mircea_popescu: mp grins at BingoBoingo's link, knowing full well he was
the original investor
that insisted dooglus use a gpg scheme
to certify investment movements.
BingoBoingo: benkay: It is
the bottom post on
that page
benkay: BingoBoingo: anchors aren't working
today
benkay: mircea_popescu
there were dependencies if j-d had
to have a surety bond
BingoBoingo: Every year a new batch of people makes
that clear.
mircea_popescu: associating with
things like jd made sense in
that perspective. doog had enough sense
to keep it at arms length
benkay: all webwallet users are victims,
they just don't know it yet.
mircea_popescu: benkay
there was no depending,
tf was in search of adding value
to his otherwise not particularly useful service
BingoBoingo: That roughly seems
to be it. I've
traversed quite a bit of
this handle of vodka I
trekked
through
the polar vortex
to acquire, but it sounds right. Depositors just weren't inputs.io victims yet.
benkay: however *much*
that account *was holding when IIO went down