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nubbins`: for the first time
Vexual: the beauty is you can see other humans that select for this
nubbins`: i felt like a million bucks after doing some light mods to my press
asciilifeform: good example from (relatively) recent times
asciilifeform: rare bird, this.
nubbins`: it's at the point now where one is pleased to see a well-built, serviceable piece of equipment
Vexual: ice cube dispensers too nubs :)
asciilifeform: the soviet 'ZIL' fridge that my folks & i left behind in '92 is almost certainly still running, somewhere.
Vexual: those fuckers always slapsh gin on the floor
nubbins`: my relatives have a frigidaire refrigerator that's 70 years old. still works.
asciilifeform: it's more like, an analog scope with a display with response time measured in ms is a sad joke.
asciilifeform: esp. in exchange for the turd that passes for the typical lcd.
nubbins`: i'll leave the details to someone else
asciilifeform: many people have 'pro'-grade crts that they see no reason to part with.
nubbins`: pretty sure there's a joke about Zenith in there somewhere
asciilifeform: so this is how the u.s. tv industry died.
asciilifeform: mass of the tv tube goes up roughly with the cube of length
asciilifeform: (of known charge, that is, 1 electron)
asciilifeform: given as deflection, in a particular magnetic field, is proportional to velocity.
asciilifeform: to make shorter (lighter) tubes.
asciilifeform: you need relativistic electrons to get the wide deflection angle
asciilifeform: because they taught SR to engineers
asciilifeform: the first crt tv sets that weren't 'pieces of furniture' were japanese. why?
nubbins`: asciilifeform: no doubt, but that was my introduction
Vexual: all about the delta
nubbins`: gps taught me that time dilation has practical applications
Vexual: a gps sat needs an atomic clock to provide the accuracy for the reciever to exprapolate an accurate aproximation, a cd player just needs to know the wavelength
nubbins`: mildly amusing that you can disable hardware without even remote access to it :D
nubbins`: just read that link
Vexual: the lenses neing software rather than optics
Vexual: whya are these cncs so sesitive?
Vexual: but saying you're in the south china sea when thats out of vhf range is pointless, same is probably true with signal spoofing gps
asciilifeform: and how this was imposed from above by bureaucrats.
asciilifeform: linked piece describes how the high-end mills are made deliberately difficult to modify (a la 'drm')
Vexual: if they own the machine, surely they can create a different gps out
asciilifeform: less than thermal background, when seen at the receiver.
asciilifeform: (at least, the public signal doesn't)
Vexual: but the sats crank out some power
asciilifeform: iran and the stolen airplane.
asciilifeform: looks like even crapware artists publish teasers now.
Vexual: if usmil saw fit they can spoof from the sats over a small area, alowing a moved usesful factory to continue
asciilifeform: plus now we know that you can ddos a machine shop from 10km away.
asciilifeform: gps spoofers on the market in 3... 2... 1...
nubbins`: another time, perhaps!
truffles: i shall proceed then
nubbins`: ah, im actually gonna be turning in soon. i have a rare early rise tomorrow :)
nubbins`: not today, nope
truffles: i should prob play before i get the later half of a buzz marathon
asciilifeform: rather than clear in the usual sense
nubbins`: costly per-unit too, i'd imagine
asciilifeform: nubbins`: afaik you can '3d print' acrylic, but it looks like the windows found in public toilets.
nubbins`: Vexual: afaik you can't 3d print clear things
nubbins`: diametric: regarding contracts, find one you like the format of and use that as a guide
Vexual: doing that in-house too?
diametric: speaking of, i need images i can do test rasters now
asciilifeform: if you read the 'amazon' reviews for these items, they're almost all from 'grow-op' folks.
asciilifeform: almost anything that goes with a laser cutter (ventilation hardware, compressors, pumps)
asciilifeform: hah. though i'm probably on all of the relevant lists, if only because virtually every one of the tools is traditionally bought by weed growers
Vexual: plus you had to shut down your meth lab for reflow, gotta price that in
nubbins`: i'll print a single t-shirt of any design for $70 :)
asciilifeform: anyone who has bought electronic parts (or manufactured anything) knows this.
asciilifeform: the unit cost of the first batch is perceptibly greater than it ought to be, because of economics of scale.
nubbins`: i'm just trying to get a feel for how much they cost. i don't think 0.333 btc is still the intended sale price at the current exchange rate :D
Vexual: so no plan for my third cousin to sccess her iphoto library with a cardano yet then?
asciilifeform: (for anyone who doesn't know, mircea is the organizational/financial sourcerer in this project, i only designed the damn thing)
asciilifeform: nubbins`: plan is that we sell for btc only.
diametric: i should probably fix that.
nubbins`: i know a while back, 3 units for 1 btc was floated... is there a usd price point in mind?
diametric: i have determined i have no clue how to write a contract.
nubbins`: i can think of several people i know for whom that's incomprehensible
asciilifeform: where, if certain things are written to it, and the trigger is pulled, others will appear as well.
asciilifeform: considering that it appears, for all intents and purposes, as a usb flash disk.
asciilifeform: i'm hard-pressed to imagine how one could fail to figure out the use of the device
nubbins`: vexual, i think generally those who can't figure out the device as it exists probably don't have a pressing need for one, either :)
Vexual: let me ponder it, ill get back to you
asciilifeform: share your thought?
Vexual: not sure really, im just imagining they might be useful for more than intended
asciilifeform: my expectation is that some of the first batch of cardanos will be distributed as 'review' units
nubbins`: at least that's what i gather from where they ended up :D
nubbins`: afaik they were given to various business associates
asciilifeform: not sure how he picked who to give them to
asciilifeform: i gave away a few shirts to various people, and so did mircea
Vexual: oh, i thought thats how peeps got tshirts
asciilifeform: Vexual: we aren't taking orders quite yet
Vexual: can you tell us how many of the first run are sld?
asciilifeform: actually the costliest component on that board, not counting the board itself (as published in mircea's statement)
asciilifeform: the five boards pictured here will be reflowed a second time, with the shield anchors on.
asciilifeform: unlike similar shields found in many gizmos (cell phone, wireless card, etc) this one can be removed safely and many times (within reasonable limit)
asciilifeform: as you can probably tell, shield is missing.
Vexual: asciilifeform, do not use if sheild is missing, what is this?
truffles: just saw the game BingoBoingo did u get hammered towards the end geeeeez
ozbot: Loper OS » Cardano Prototype Tidbits: TRNG Boards.
VanCleef: :) thanks
ArsKisS: i can't say they are BIG, but they are definately bigger than what we are used to novadays
ArsKisS: where did all these walls come to cryptostocks :O
nubbins`: now there's a motto
jurov: maybe if we sent them backdoored cardano :DDD
jurov: you'd prolly need to place the eggs near major justdice players :D
KRS1: exactly the problem
jurov: then how does that relate to justdice?