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pankkake: I hope it didn't annoy the neighbors too long…
kakobrekla: must be all these cheap monitors
kakobrekla: im getting paranoid my office is going to end up in fire for some reason
pankkake: took me some time to actually understand that was the detector
kakobrekla: hm that could work
pankkake: oh, that is interesting. I came home and the detector was beeping
kakobrekla: are there any smart smoke detectors avail?
kakobrekla: b0n1 : trilema.com/2013/the-conference-second-edition/
kakobrekla: i dont think theres one correct link there
gribble: 2014-03-06: Texas Bitcoin Conference - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=363816.0>; Meetups - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=86.0>; Bitcoinvention - the First Bitcoin Conference in Asia - PRWeb: <http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11250158.htm>
b0n1: hey guys! I remember there will be a bitcoin conference in romania beginning for 2014, right?
the20year: just working on this rentalstarter biz plan
the20year: My goal there is to keep showing new revisions, asking for feedback on things people want answered, and add it to the next one
the20year: Anyone want to take a look at this next revision of the RentalStarter biz plan?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: apparently my mistake was thinking the mobsters can spell.
ozbot: More about Caesar cyphers pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/more-about-caesar-cyphers/#comment-97491 << the mystery solved.
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 1757489193.24 based on data since last change | 2051188187.74 based on data for last three days
mircea_popescu: given the nature of hashing these can only be extrapolated into a hash estimate, which may vary arbitrarily much from the real value
mircea_popescu: the only actual datapoints are the block timestamps.
Neil: Though he doesn't mention the 2015 block peculiarity
Neil: The facts are right I think; the code sucks.
mircea_popescu: Neil afaik that site/article is 1-2 years out of date throughout
mircea_popescu: decimation the argument could be brought that all loss of a bitcoin wallet is intentional.
Neil: There's a much faster way that uses no logs or bignums...
Neil: "Here's a fast way to calculate bitcoin difficulty" folllowed by lots of spaghetti from Amir.
decimation: and there are not any actuarial tables
KRS1: i bet the said wallet has to be hosted on their platform or something
decimation: Indeed, the risks are obviously much greater for a btc wallet
KRS1: its easier to lose or flush down the toilet..wondering how peercover will do this
Neil: The difficulty is known at the block prior to the block with the new difficulty (it's a 2015 block window). So theoretically bets in the period of the 2016th block should be refunded.
mircea_popescu: prolly the sort of thing i deserve for my hybric nature.
mircea_popescu: maybe some dork manages to send a donation bet for whatever, 5k btc
mircea_popescu: srsly, if there's a sudden gulp and it looks like no have the upper hand...
Neil: If it veers to no, I hate to think how big the bets become
Neil: I give it 60% chance of getting to 1690. The leeches will come in in about 1 week (on either side) when the outcome will be clear, even to scrape a 2%
mircea_popescu: decimation yes, but not against "i accidentally flushed it down the toilet" scenarios
mircea_popescu: i knew that'd turn into a challenge :D
KRS1: maybe thats why the U.K. offering is hosted on AWS
Neil: Ooh, that'd be tough
decimation: one can purchase jewelry insurance in the US
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ that's the prev record
KRS1: there is a new offering from the U.K. for that
Neil: Wouldn't be surprised to see 2bn difficulty bet could get to 1500 total. Would that be a record?
KRS1: is it even possible to provide wallet insurance and successfully make a profit?
mircea_popescu: the apex predator in africa is blond and that's that.
mircea_popescu: yes well just because we found a black swan is no reason to go looking for black lions.
Neil: But then I'd have said that about bitcoin back in 2009
mircea_popescu: or a dumbass and his website, or a website and its dumbass or however this works.
Duffer1: i don't see how it will be used for anything other than scamming
mircea_popescu: but that's just me.
mircea_popescu: KRS1 "yet another tranny thinking he's a woman / guy with dreamweaver thinking he's a coder / guy with a student loan thinking he's a financier making some dumbass social platform tht won't go anywhere and he won't stop talking about"
ThickAsThieves: come March, itll be petahashes added through the day
KRS1: what do you guys think of that?
Neil: July looking like the outlier
Neil: 5.6bn is quite high; could easily miss on the downside there
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/712/bitcoin-difficulty-over-5-6b-before-april/ << these'd look a lot better seeded the other way lol
mircea_popescu: i read it on reddit so it must be troe
ThickAsThieves: i sold one of my GPUs for more than I paid for it new
pankkake: gpus can be put in microwaves and they're as new!
mircea_popescu: and those had like you know, actual qa done on them
mircea_popescu: pankkake all miners eventually explode. even the radeon ones,
pankkake: knc delivers but from what I understand the miners eventually explode
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves in a functioning economy he gets it just in time to mine 10.98x btc off it
decimation: yeah, that's the dubious part, they claim 3 TH/s, but the difficulty in 6 months ...
mircea_popescu: i know they're coming.
mircea_popescu: i'm looking forward to the "bitbet should close all the bets and send all the bitcoins to me plzkthx"
Neil: ThickAsThieves: Was that your comment about closing the bet now? hehe
decimation: yes. I ordered a "2nd batch" neptune for ~11 btc and I was wondering about the probability it would actually arrive and work would be
mircea_popescu: i thought kako bought furries
decimation: hi. I'm a noob to the channel, but I note the conversation shifted to mining - and I was wondering if anyone had experience with kncminer stuff?
ThickAsThieves: we only need to mask the source in public
ThickAsThieves: its okay for the miner to see what they solcve and get paid bonuses
Neil: Apocalyptic: Miners don't know when they got the one that solved it? I'm sure they do.
mircea_popescu: and all the public has to go on is the very dubious blockchaininfo ip identification
ThickAsThieves: the goal isnt to hide earnings, its to hide who made them from the public
Neil: But then what would they be paying miners with? A miner would notice he got a block and the pool didn't claim it, at some point.
mircea_popescu: they can trivially separate broadcasting, what's to keep them
mircea_popescu: no but they just broadcast the block off a new ip each time
Neil: All GHash.io blocks are stamped that way.
ThickAsThieves: they could sort that too probly
Neil: mircea_popescu: Then the pool payouts wouldn't match contributed hashrate.
mircea_popescu: who's to stop them ?
ThickAsThieves: have it all be in the pool
ThickAsThieves: Neil, I'm sure there's a way they could do it
ThickAsThieves: i think it's funny that voting is optional
Neil: ThickAsThieves: ghash.io is part itself (cex?) and part individual miners. They could move their own hashing to appear anon. Can't do that with external miners to the pool I think.
mircea_popescu: another way of saying "concern trolling on a planetary scale"
mircea_popescu: then you get the us govt.
mircea_popescu: no but see, that's the electoral system. people with no skin in the game vote on how the game should be run
Duffer1: voting, that's cute
mircea_popescu: because i think their opinion is not worth the shit it's carved in.
ThickAsThieves: they voted to return the money, why havent you!?
Neil: Ah yeah I know that one.
mircea_popescu: read teh first one
Neil: mircea_popescu: You're on reddit? Dunno the history there.
mircea_popescu: basically bitcoin rewards exactly the opposite behaviour that us elections reward.
mircea_popescu: Neil take bitbet. part of its success has to do with me pissing all over the reddit crowd and its sensibilities.
Neil: ThickAsThieves: That thought occurred to me too.