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mircea_popescu: anyway, i dun see
the big deal. if
this wasn;'t a problem we wouldn't need
trademarks
the20year: These
tech aquisitions make no sense
to me
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mircea_popescu: how did
that clemens line go, "the less one is inclined
to make definitive universal statements,
the less likely
they are
to look like some random noob
that ended up in
the wrong channel"
the20year: it also doesn't include
the fact
that we haven't utilized 20% remaining capital in our account due
to it being insufficient
to buy more properties.
the20year: So let me stress
that, 14.3% dividend yield based on investments at $81 per BTC
the20year: At any rate, RentalStarter collected an average of $81 in fiat per BTC during
the IPO phase, bitcoin is now worth 10x more and our div yield in BTC will be 14.3% going forward which puts us right in
the middle of
the pack on Havelock. Only
two stocks would have higher dividends, 5 would have lower dividend yields.
rattaTATpow: its also possible forbtc
to decline in price
the20year: And even
though many of
the assets 'weren't in fiat'
they seemed
to suffer a good deal from fiat's decline in value relative
to BTC
the20year: That's kind of
the point i'm making. Everything from my perspective was hammered shareprice wise when BTC went from $200>$1200
rattaTATpow: all investors should knowvy now
thatstocks are merely denominatedinbtc
mike_c: yes, stocks
that aren't
tied
to a fiat income stream.
the20year: will any stock be better
than holding btc?
rattaTATpow: ozbot and gribble seem
to bemuch different
than Bitcoinwisdom.
mike_c: because i don't
think your roi will be better
than just holding btc
mike_c: good luck. i still don't
think you should be raising btc, but you should be one of
the better investments on hl :)
the20year: Whenever HL gets
the paperwork approved, already sent it out
to
them Monday
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KRS1: I
think its advantages like
that
those who scoff at
the 30 btc seat on
the exchange fail
to learn.
mircea_popescu: there's value in
this "theory / practice" approach anyway. for one
thing mpex contracts even allow assets
to skip a month entirely
mike_c: i didn't want
to force it
though. start arbitrarily applying divs
to certain months. because like, what about when a div is paid wrong? do I "fix" it? it does need
to be more clear.
jurov: HL croaks by
the
time mike manages
to do it
mike_c: btcalpha is mine, just launched recently. deals with
things i find interesting in btc finance.
the20year: Is
there a longer-term chart for it?
mike_c: no.
the stock price went up a lot last year, so
the div. yield is pretty small.
mike_c: 136 BTC in one month. probably bigger
than yours.
the20year: I was wanting
to compare
their div
to ours
mike_c: and
to jurov's point, it was actually 13.65 satoshi per share
mike_c: hm. ok,
thanks. i'll make it more accurate.
jurov: nope. if mpex pays 19btc
to 100bn shares, it shows as 1 satoshi per share
mike_c: i believe satoshi per share is accurate. at least, it is
the same as on mpex
jurov: for example, i have
to dig it up every month
to distribute divs without rounding errors
jurov: also, information
to how many shares was
the dividend paid is very useful in
this case
mike_c: mircea_popescu:
the
table is aligned as designed. whether it's clear is another question. I went with showing
the dividends in
the month
they were paid, which is generally
the month after
the profit was earned.
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mircea_popescu: stuff
that lays on
the bottom of still water, rolling its eyes and not putting any effort is scum,
that's what it is, look it up.
mircea_popescu: and for
that matter, calling
things you don't like
to hear opinions doesn't much change
the reality of
them.
truffles: now ur opinions are
truths umk
mircea_popescu: there's
the
truthfulness defense. something's not an insult just because you don't like hearing it.
truffles: one doesnt have
to use big words but if ure constantly using profanity
to exert an opinion its kinda hopeless
mircea_popescu: it does also save you from making a fool of yourself
thinking hemingway invented donne, but
that's i suppose a minor point, especially if you are careful
to live among people who won't laugh
to your face for it.
truffles: id have
to painstakingly present
the idea
truffles: arguing with u would
take effort
mircea_popescu: or in other words, any fuckwit can "roll
their eyes" pointlessly. actually reading a book
takes some effort.
mircea_popescu: they're
the same substance, "let's presume inferiority abroad"
mircea_popescu: <truffles> just
trying
to say u put in more effort
than most ppl prob << how do you distinguish
this from "niggers are just born with less smarts" ?
truffles: how was i being arrogant in
this case
mircea_popescu: and scum is one who
thinks
that
the solution
to
their own stupidity and laziness is enticing, encouraging and if need be forcing everyone else
to be equally lazy and stupid.
mircea_popescu: weasel is someone who behaves arrogantly and offensively anti-thinking, and when
they have it pointed out
to
them
they claim
they were "just observing", in your case.
truffles: id like
to know what definition ure using for weasel and scum
truffles: so over
the
top
trying
to be right?
mircea_popescu: didn't you just call
the guy a nerd for not being as stupid as you'd like people
to be generally ?
mircea_popescu: course
there are
those less fortunate who rarely get such a chance, but you're basically arguing
that
they should be opressed moar just
to keep it up.
mircea_popescu: people enjoy reading, because people enjoy not being americans every chance
they get.
mircea_popescu: truffles what's with
this arrogand, offensive anti-intellectualism ?
KRS1: its going
to be cold here in south florida next few days..might see 30 degrees, highs of only 60's 70 degrees. brrr..
KRS1: maybe..but idk
today is a new day and age..ppl suprise me from
time
to
time.
truffles: just
trying
to say u put in more effort
than most ppl prob
KRS1: They make
time
to read what
they are looking for, as long as its delivered
to
them in a way
they can digest it, I suppose. For instance, I read
the Wall St. Journal primarily for
the Marktplace section. I get and enjoy information from other parts as a side benefit.
truffles: u
think ppl have
time
to read wall of
text
KRS1: I see
twitter as a different
type of
tool
than a blog, not more or less important.
KRS1: In many cases it gives
the visitor a doggie bag or a sample of knowledge or data
that
they may be able
to use. Sometimes closing
the deal on sales or further investment of your idea or product.
VanCleef: twitter is more important
than a blog
KRS1: for me, personally, it has been
the realization
that people need more meat and potatoes so
to speak
than just a flashy website
that just gets
the point across..it provides a substantial base of information
that compliments and validates your site or your image.
truffles: what has caused
the change of view?
KRS1: i used
to
think otherwise
ozbot: A conceit, or
the importance of blogging pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
nubbins`: ah, okay, managed
to get
to
the ubuntu desktop again
nubbins`: 10-e020ca i guess, but i
think
that
the "ca" just indicates country
nubbins`: the black screen
thing seems fairly common
nubbins`: thanks, almost at
the end of my rope, but i can't let my poor mother use windows 8
nubbins`: i don't even get
this far unless i add "nomodeset"
to startup params. without
that,
the screen just
turns off after a point
nubbins`: hp pavilion 10-e020. google search doesn't
turn up much.