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mircea_popescu: and didn't the hack force the guy to wipe the equity of his investors, as he had no other resources ?
knotwork: its still an anonymous-owner exchange I think?
Apocalyptic: it still exists and people think it's legit
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, it's even worse than that
knotwork: It seems to be more picky about what altcoins to list than any others I came across, and I have been into merged mining since it was invented so wanted someplace that had at least some of the merged mined coins
mircea_popescu: this is like ghostships on the sea of forgotten memories
knotwork: which seems to be working so far, my highball sells are still being gobbled higher and higher
knotwork: Vircurex listed DOGE so I made a choice between abandoning Vircurex and taking a flutter of trying my devcoin strategy on DOGE
mircea_popescu: one of the few funny xkcd's
mod6: haha, drop that baby on its head.
mircea_popescu: mod6 alternatively, you could name your son that.
mircea_popescu: yep. mpex supports dogecoin by helping all the dogecoin owners stay out of trouble.
jcpham: i ypo'd the password
knotwork: jcpham you stored your "wallet" only on third party storage not on your own disk?
Namworld: That's poor website security. They could have hosted it on any platform, even the most secure, it doesn't fix incompetence.
Namworld: doesn't matter if you can fetch records without even hacking, just by going to an url
mircea_popescu: lol @obamacare. they should have used openbsd.
jcpham: well if i had 75k ripples the last time i logged in and now the account is gone
jcpham: i keep reading about on the interwebs
jcpham: who the fuck is this billionaire romanaian
mircea_popescu: whoa who is this jcpham guy
jcpham: i didn't type it wrong
Namworld: ripples are worth a good chunk. They were worth even a lot more earlier, like 5000 ripples for 1 BTC. Now 40k ripples for 1 BTC.
kakobrekla: i just dont want to leave extra money to those fuckers
knotwork: or are you saying they wiped your accoutns from their ledgers?
ozbot: It’s not the sauce, it’s the poultry and other metamathematical considerations pe Trilema - Un b
kakobrekla: i just found out i have btc change there and want to get it out
Namworld: For like two months where they made 10-20k BTC profits I think
knotwork: actually I sold the first 20000 or so they gave me for bitcoins, at way better price I think that I have seen since
Namworld: You could have accrued dividends on SD in the range of up to ~0.0002 per month per share at it's highest I think, or close to that
knotwork: maybe a couple of grand USD worth or a grand or so depending on when I check the price
knotwork: I have the giveaway ripples they gave out early on that were much bigger than later giveaways
jcpham: are they worth something yet?
knotwork: the charts indicate nothing about dividends though
kakobrekla: anyone has any monies on that thing called ripple
Namworld: At buyout, each share was bought 0.0032 I think
Namworld: SD went from 0.0022 - 0.0027 IPO slices to 0.007 and then back down or something
Namworld: SD started much lower than that
knotwork: but maybe the bonds behind the options were better earnings historically?
knotwork: not impressive growth though not a skyrocket, at least in that period, but maybe it was more impressive in the early days
knotwork: March by the look of it
Duffer1: i don't know how far back the data goes
knotwork: and maybe that would have made quite a chunk too? Are there historic plots/charts etc somewhere?
knotwork: If was going to bie at all back then I would have gone for S.MPOE itself or whatever it is called
knotwork: I wasnt about to risk precious bitcoins on some third party site let alone on fourth party offerigns on such a site
Namworld: Would have been enough to make a good chunk
knotwork: Maybe less than 100 bitcoins as it mgiht have been before I got the bounty for helping to create DVC
knotwork: Oh I was broke way back then.
Namworld: You should have bought a ton at IPO
knotwork: I didn't buy into Satoshi Dice since I figured it was only a matter of time before it ran into legal problems. Didn't think oh yeah it could get bought out by someone who has all the right licenses and jurisdiction (did it?)
jcpham: i think i just broke my nose that time
jcpham: everytime i see the word doge i facedesk
knotwork: Nice question. Maybe it is time for me to start looking into actually making some use of my MPOE seat assuming such things do not expire thus that I still have it.
knotwork: much profit on tiny amount of capital :(
knotwork: I should have bought more than just a few million DOGE to scatter across a huge range of highball sell offers, my selsl are being eaten up like crazy
Namworld: It's nothing new, been going for a long time
Namworld: I took a loan
kakobrekla: Namworld you took a loan or gave it?
knotwork: How much (ballpark) would an option to buy bitcoin in say six months or nine or a year for today's price cost?
knotwork: you pay a little each time BTC dives?
Namworld: Used to be 400
knotwork: maybe pick up and refurbish the other couple of places I have been looking at first. Go at them in cheapest place first sequence.
knotwork: It does sound more and more like the place is probbly going to remain available for quite a while yet so I guess I will check it out every month or few and see how desperate that become to get rid of it
the20year1: BTC>USD , get a cashout refi , then put that back into bitcoin
knotwork: and I wouldnt want a bitcoin-denominated one that would be crazy
knotwork: because anyone who believes bitcoin is good as collateral isnt going to want to issue a fiat denominated loan
knotwork: but that is a non-starter
knotwork: but land can be appreciated in other ways than by looking how much money it is worth
knotwork: even though anything other than cryptocoins would likely appreciate much slower
knotwork: I think even when it reaches only $2000 or $2500 or so I would start wanting to hive off 500k CAD or so worth into something other than cryptocoins
the20year1: 10k then :D
knotwork: maybe it will afterall still be available in november when bitcoin is $10,000 (i guess I was wrong about how long people think that might take to reach) and it will be cheaper then too as their desperation increases
knotwork: offer to take it off his hands for a nominal dollar to save him the cost of demolition
knotwork: Or figure out the cost of just the land, subtract the cost of removing the buildings etc etc and make crazy lowball offer to see how eager the seller is to sell
KRS1: i'm sorry i gotta step away for this
mod6: to the moon!
kakobrekla: take that USD!
Namworld: If that happen I can rebuild it mad an indestructible unobtainium shielding.
KRS1: ah shit i didnt think of that =/
knotwork: Well first I will just get my 400 amps into my country-house I might feel a lot less stir-crazy cabin-fever starved for outlets to plug machines into then
KRS1: Namworld you could have tons of fun with that..it would never get old.
Namworld: With giant laser cannon directed at the "ants" (people) on earth? So you can direct them around or randomly blast them?
KRS1: make sure to have a greenhouse and recycle your water
KRS1: find a way to live in orbit
Namworld: Now people need to drug you/knowck you out to get the private key.
Namworld: You could tattoo the private key on the underneath of your eyelid. Pull and read in a mirror.
KRS1: Just buy a ship. Done. imo choose the caterpillar diesel engines option..well worth it.
knotwork: See this place is a great resource for discovering whether one is oneself a great(er) fool.
knotwork: Maybe right in a city next to a police station could be more secure than out in the middle of no-where with gosh knows how long an RCMP response-time
Diablo-D3: the only machine that can be on you at all times is a cell phone. cell phones are not secure.
Diablo-D3: unless the machine is on you at all times and already secure, there is no such thing as a secure private key
Diablo-D3: you cant secure them.
knotwork: I coudl maybe put the keys in a machine in a vault or something
Diablo-D3: if you're not aware of how datacenter security works, go research that
Diablo-D3: it'd require no more physical security than an actual datacenter.
knotwork: though I could lock them out of the actual datacentre part maybe
knotwork: one problem really with the military base idea is it would need a guard or groundskeeper etc
Diablo-D3: if the NSA is going to spy on me or my customers
mircea_popescu: you know sooner or later you will have to take employees.
Diablo-D3: the farther you go down the chain, the more you get fucked with