800500+ entries in 0.589s
Ademan: that's a hell of a banana "clip"
though
altkoin: thats
the "price" you pay for it.
Ademan: but
then
they said "clip"
altkoin: land by itself is useless, it needs human labor for value
to be created
altkoin: you cant claim large swaths of land lol
thats absurd
altkoin: it was nomadic
tribes. land becomes yours when you add value
to it
altkoin: they never had any land
to begin with
Ademan: these guys actually have good
trigger discipline... is
that gangsta?
altkoin: your
the one using words like "invasion"
BingoBoingo: altkoin: You sound like
the sort of self censoring mother fucker who would rather imagine North America was completely uninhabited (though how did
the Incas and Aztecs get
to
their ruins)
than suppose an ancestor of yours might have ever killed a motherfucker for
their land
Ademan: BingoBoingo: When did you plant
them?
ozbot: Tulip breaking virus - Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia
Ademan: one of
the dutch
tulips strains was really awesome
Duffer1: i guess what we really need
to know is
BingoBoingo: altkoin: Maybe you just work in
the wrong mindset. As a native Illinoisian I am accustomed
to measuring distance and
time in
the same units.
altkoin: everyone from sweden hates
themselves for some reason, i mean its
to
the point where your
telling me your super great ancestors even spread a virus
that wiped out a society lol
Ademan: I scrolled up and ended up listening
to da union...
BingoBoingo: altkoin: You sound like
the exact sort of person who
the North County Cowboys would be
thrilled
to harvest. Scroll up
to see youtube videos.
altkoin: bingoboingo: when
the europeans arrived it was a wasteland with nomads. i never disputed civilizations existing, but
they were subsistence level based on ritual sacrfiice and slaughter, and almost none were around when europeans began colonizing north america
Duffer1: bitcoin does it's own
thing, altcoins do
theirs
altkoin: i
think
the next leg up in bitcoin will not involve altcoin participation
BingoBoingo: altkoin: I don't dispute
that Europeans conquered North America. I dispute you supposition
that North (i.e. Richest nao America) was an uninhabited wasteland
altkoin: i wonder if we are witnessing
the end of
the altcoins in
this latest sell off
BingoBoingo: What I wonder is how dense a person has
to be
to suppose
that pecan
trees grow in massive homogenous groves, larger
than
the largest ollive groves in Europe at
the
time
BingoBoingo: altkoin: Iriqouis were
the original Chis Christie New Jersey fat asses
BingoBoingo: When Romulus and Remus raped
the Saibines, what protein were
they eating?
Ademan: depends on where you draw
the line for central america really
BingoBoingo: altkoin:
That doesn't sound very different
than
the Greeks or
the Dagas just a few centuries earlier.
BingoBoingo: Also altkoin If you want
to control a population and don't have pepper gas, what
tool would you use. Sacrifice mounds seemed
to be awfully effective...
BingoBoingo: Along
the Mississippi
there are other numerous and less impressive cities
altkoin: i guess you can call
that a city.
ozbot: Cahokia - Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia
BingoBoingo: They made dirt piles bigger
than some of
the pyramids
BingoBoingo: altkoin: Cahokia was a city of Native Americans roughly as big as
the collection of mistizos in
trailers living
there nao
Ademan: is
that really what you guys were arguing?
That sounds verifiable
altkoin: i mean its always something with
the self hating european
these days
Ademan: because
talking about dead vikings seems a bit
tangential
to discussing invading north america *now*
altkoin: hes
talking about how europeans invaded north america some 500 years ago or whatever
Ademan: What are you guys arguing?
That north america can't be invaded, or
that north america can't be invaded *now*?
altkoin: what city did
they inhabit
BingoBoingo: Oh, no evidence other
than a fuckton of dead vikinfs in canada and cities in
the eastern US
that suddenly collapsed due
to disease
altkoin: your
talking modernist revised history
that always puts everything bad on
the european.
altkoin: it was nomadic
tribes moving around
altkoin: bingoboingo dude how many
times are you going
to repeat
the disease fallacy,
there was nobody in north america
Ademan: wow haha what
triggered
this discussion?
altkoin: everywhere
they landed
the objective was violence
BingoBoingo: By
the
time
the english land in Massachussets North America had been depopulated by disease
BingoBoingo: Then a few centuries later
the spanish land
BingoBoingo: altkoin: I mean
they landed in Newfoundland and were repelled by large armies of native warriors
altkoin: like what do you mean by
that
BingoBoingo: altkoin:
The vikings
tried
to invade Canadia
altkoin: what cities did
they attack? which roads did
they use
to get
them
there.
altkoin: did
they invade florida swamps? or new york forests?
altkoin: there has
to be something
to invade first.
altkoin: your univerisity
tell you
that?
BingoBoingo: altkoin: Scandanavians were
the first Europeans
to invade
the Americas. And why weren't
they successful?
altkoin: the easiest way
to
tell if a culture is strong is
to look at
the art and music it produces, and modern art and music makes you want
to puke.
punkman1: re: baby killing, you know people did
that because
they didn't want
their kids
to grow up as slaves?
BingoBoingo: I wonder why scandanavian culture isn't much bigger in 'Murica
then.
altkoin: by
the way
the catholic church was
the only one
that raised
the issues of native mistreatment and slavery in
the new colonies.
altkoin: protestant reformation started
the chain of events
that would lead
to europes collapse centuries later
altkoin: dude most of
their wealth is illiquid
altkoin: europe needs
to go back
to its pre enlightenment roots if it wants
to survive, its been failed utopia after failed utopia in europe since
the enlightment, massive wars, genocides
altkoin: well, less gold
then
they expected
altkoin: actually most of
the new world had silver not gold
altkoin: also
the spanish were in complete shock when
they saw
the
type of activities
the inca's were engaged in
BingoBoingo: altkoin: Well, explain
the stands of nut
trees and fruit bushes
that resembled gardens
through
the entire eastern US by
the
time Squanto,
The last man standing met
the pilgrims.
altkoin: most of
the natives were killing each other off, hence if you study US battles youll see one
tribe always joins up with one of
the european powers against another
altkoin: your
talking politically correct history
that is
totally disconnected from reality
altkoin: the savagery
the spanish witnessed was absolutely shocking
altkoin: there was nothing in
the US other
then nomadic
tribes wondering about
altkoin: the spanish invaded
the US?
BingoBoingo: altkoin: How do you
think
the Spanish invaded
the US so successfully. It was mostly smallpox and demographic collapse.
altkoin: they enter a place, put up a few mosques and
turn everything in a huge ghetto
altkoin: well im pretty sure
they will just end up kicking all islam out
the20year1: although I
think
they'll resort
to 'traditional habbits' like genocide before it becomes a huge issue
altkoin: yea
the US isnt as bad as europe
the20year1: I guess, btu
there are still quite a few groups in
teh US
that are growing reasonably well
that are high population producers - latinos and evangelical christians
altkoin: which is
tied with economic collapse
the20year1: US is a big place, smallpox might do a decent job, but it'd have
to be quite effective
altkoin: its still a gigantic farm
to
tax
altkoin: the US is not going
to face economic collapse for awhile
the20year1: you'd have
to invade either from Canada or Mexico
kakobrekla: but im not long,
that would imply im borrowing.
BingoBoingo: altkoin:
The
thing is actual hard parts
to invade are not
the parts you probably are
thinking of
altkoin: its
too armed
theres like 10 billion in ammo in private hands alone
altkoin: US is impossible
to invade
BingoBoingo: If China invades 'Murica
to collect what fiat
they are owed I assure you it probably won't be hillbillies repelling
the invasion by
throwing
their flags up.
altkoin: yea i
think its still left in some of
the none eu areas