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asciilifeform: ( diana_alt lemme know after tried, i'ma switch it off, it's an unhygienic thing )
BingoBoingo: diana_alt: I never managed to deploy anything that worked as needed on nginx. I managed things that almost work on lighttpd, but it simply lacks the good stuff apache offers for blogs.
asciilifeform: diana_alt: reasons to suspect the pipe, include this: i have stood up temporarily a raw flask on port 33. try time curl "http://logs.nosuchlabs.com:33/log" > /dev/null
diana_alt: ah, nm, now I saw it in the footnote - it is L1 only
diana_alt: spyked: I don't recall and can't see at http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/081-feedbot-manual.html - is feedbot for L1 only or does it work for anyone with positive ratings or regardless of rating or what?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-19 13:53:04 diana_alt: asciilifeform: atm all my auth except this travel key are in various degrees of deep freeze but if it's not tested until I get back to my usual terminal, I'll try it out
diana_alt: ah, I *was* wondering re nginx as my only recollection of it was BingoBoingo trying it out and ending up with more trouble than it's worth
asciilifeform: previously i chalked this up to 'slow pipe'. now suspect also the proxying proggy.
asciilifeform: the reason why i currently suspect nginx as the culprit, is that i observed very similar delay when loading static (e.g. FG photograph) files via same.
asciilifeform: diana_alt: i have plan to move the box to traditional apache, but yet not figured out how to do so w/out unacceptably long disruption of service .
asciilifeform: i get (and on rather slow machine) load time for the 'heavy' example page comparable to the time it takes for the mouse button to go up an' down.
diana_alt: interesting at least in re pipe I suppose
diana_alt: asciilifeform: atm all my auth except this travel key are in various degrees of deep freeze but if it's not tested until I get back to my usual terminal, I'll try it out
asciilifeform: so i suspect you will find same
asciilifeform: diana_alt: i do not currently know, atm i only have access to 1 piz machine. if you have time, plz try from yours and share result.
asciilifeform: when someone sets up this logger outside of piz, i suppose will tell us sumthing re subj.
asciilifeform: diana_alt: fwiw i was not, to date, able to rule out mp's 'overworked pipe' hypothesis .
asciilifeform: diana_alt: there defo is. i've measured up to 0.6s (and all outside of the py proggy per se, i.e. vanishes if accessed at localhost )
asciilifeform: lobbes: i'ma try your proggy tomorrow. ideally time finally came to eat all of the back-archives.
mp_en_viaje: i thought that was the alice character
mp_en_viaje: and the other one is exactly the same situation : very good and clearly related, but not the exact item, which i am positive included the strings "you are male still" "abused your body"
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, the footnote is very good, but NOT actually the item i was looking for ;/ which is, i can see it in my mind'seye, specifically a line in the lgo saying that the problem with intelligent people is that they want to put that intelligence to use. the context was something about dying in the trenches.
snsabot: Logged on 2018-01-08 12:19:52 mircea_popescu: the claim "i am female" is fraudulent ; you are male and will die male. this is something decided at birth and unalterable.
asciilifeform: i was off re sprezz.
mp_en_viaje: and meanwhile progressed to also missing a line where i say "if you were born male, you're male still, irrespective of how you might've abused your body in the meanwhile".
snsabot: Logged on 2018-05-01 03:43:31 mircea_popescu: fellow strikes me as intelligent in conversation, then i keep having somehow the exact sort of problems with him that i usually have with idiots : i have no fucking idea what's going on, and i have to twist arms to sorta find out, maybe.
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, anyone happen to recall where the fuck i put in the log a line about how the problem with intelligent people is that they don't want mere solutions, but specifically solutions that rely on that intelligence.
mp_en_viaje: i guess it was a metaphore!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-18 09:51:47 hanbot_derpy: i wonder if that's an historical pattern, vague fiction - brink of hell.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-18#1929551 << this i suspect is right on the money. consider the liquishit that was printed in the interwar years.
asciilifeform: i was speaking of the sword-in-subway folx
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-18 09:05:23 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929434 << sword takes training to use this way, noob wrists get tired. i can't find now where i put the "two smgs, make sure you mow down everyone in your car then come out screaming and flailing armss down the tunnel with the rest of the muppets, let Inca sort you out"
mp_en_viaje: i'm done, Neil Fraser's a fucking moron.
mp_en_viaje: i can almost hear the cageworthy old woman impelling the nonsense, too, "oh, why don't you want to do $random-stupid-shit, ~are you too scared?!?!?!?~".
hanbot_derpy: i wonder if that's an historical pattern, vague fiction - brink of hell.
mp_en_viaje: heck, the 90s passed by undetected, i had nfi as late as 1999 besides a vague, unanchored and inexpressible feeling "something's wrong"
hanbot_derpy: howdy, ty. just wanted to say i'ma write to the povey d00d, has a sort of pre-joe stack feel...
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 21:31:25 asciilifeform: lobbes: tangentially -- any idea why #e seems to have fallen into disuse ? since i stood up logger, saw ~0 life there
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929501 << i've been travelling so not playing ; danielpbarron left for greener pastures in the intellectual desert ; diana working more playing less these days, same for mocky i suspect ; hanbot and nicole travelling with me, it's just... large potion of the userbase simultaneously quit, from a naive pov. from the connected pov ~everyone will be back, especially as new server / client are avail.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 15:43:42 lobbes: I figure my own understanding could use some improvement as well
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 15:43:38 lobbes: asciilifeform: could you point me to some threads/reading re: this 'fuzzy-merge' concept? V is the only version-control patch system I've ever used, so I'm having trouble comparing it to the 'anti-models' (I've never used shithub, for e.g.).
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929434 << sword takes training to use this way, noob wrists get tired. i can't find now where i put the "two smgs, make sure you mow down everyone in your car then come out screaming and flailing armss down the tunnel with the rest of the muppets, let Inca sort you out"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 21:31:25 asciilifeform: lobbes: tangentially -- any idea why #e seems to have fallen into disuse ? since i stood up logger, saw ~0 life there
lobbes: and okay. I'll bundle the eater fixes and znc2tmsr into the vpatch
lobbes: though I figure once mp is done traveling and diana_coman gets her young hands club running there may be more development chat in #e
asciilifeform: lobbes: tangentially -- any idea why #e seems to have fallen into disuse ? since i stood up logger, saw ~0 life there
asciilifeform: lobbes: let it eat the #u archive, then run reader.py, take a look at the known barf lines from before. if it ate correctly, make again vpatch (from current leaf of tree) and i'ma sign, then eat on dulap.
lobbes: In logotron testing news, (as probably expected) eat_dump.py still barfing on uniturd eating. Studying phf's algo to see if I can get it working
BingoBoingo: I'll shoot him a note unless you want to invite him to meet up for lunch or something. Seems like he's still in your neighborhood.
asciilifeform: 'if the worst comes to the worst I can always go to China or Russia' << lol, wasn't aware these needed american profs
asciilifeform: trinque: pleez. but for immediate eating by BingoBoingo , i'ma look slightly later
lobbes: micro-nit, but I noticed the example syntax for creating a database in logotron README.txt is noted as 'createdb', but in most of the documentation I've checked it is 'CREATE DATABASE' (https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.4/sql-createdatabase.html)
lobbes: aha now that I recall using
asciilifeform: lobbes: observe that the hashes you see in vpatches , in the pre-keccak (i.e. pre- disposal of gnu diff ) are not generated by gnu diff
lobbes: I see the problem there
lobbes: oh okay. I was not aware the others did not do this... yeah that shoehorning sounds... dumb
trinque: i.e. matches the prev and suceeding lines in the diff
asciilifeform: lobbes: observe that vpatches carry hashes, and demand that the output of prev. patch , going back to genesis, has to specific value. i.e. prohibit 'fuzzy'
lobbes: I figure my own understanding could use some improvement as well
lobbes: asciilifeform: could you point me to some threads/reading re: this 'fuzzy-merge' concept? V is the only version-control patch system I've ever used, so I'm having trouble comparing it to the 'anti-models' (I've never used shithub, for e.g.).
mp_en_viaje: i expect, socialmedia tards, really.
mp_en_viaje: i gotta find that "isis manual" now, was such a piece of lulzy idiocy...
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: as far as i can tell, they ~tried~ to '51st state'. problem is that inca can't even fully digest 1 baltimore, merely 1 small (physically large, but not so habitated) town where folx willing to ~sometimes~ shoot, much less entire iraq.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929372 << one of the disadvantages of the advantage, i guess.
asciilifeform: i see no reason to suppose that usg's 'computerized' planes behave any diff. from e.g. cisco's routers. ( and the turks appear to agree , fwiw )
asciilifeform: (i.e. fella inside ~could~ aim the cannon at the parliament and pull trigger and it ~would~ fire)
asciilifeform: famously peron was overthrown with help of the exactly 2 little jets kurt tank was able to build in argentina. but doubt that today could happen similarly in reich, i suspect that the 'modern' machines will neither take off nor land w/out magic coad from inca satellite.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 03:13:51 mp_en_viaje: i am aware various sysadmin-y folks flatter themselves that "something unixlike'd have existed anyway for our terminal&cmdline needs". this is utterly false, they'd have been clucking at GUI interfaces exactly like the medical profession / barristas everywhere, and been thankful when .jar finally rolled around.
asciilifeform: and i suspect the reason is along the lines of http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2016-09-26#1548766 .
asciilifeform: iirc may have been introduced by crapple, which i suppose is fitting.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 06:04:55 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929222 << i honestly thought that was the steaming turd icon.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929348 << ftr that'd be 0x1f4a9 . doesn't seem to display on any linux i can find tho.
mp_en_viaje: well, the registration includes an email, so i guess reset the pw
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929350 << no such rule at fleanode , afaik. i suspect q was 'wat-do when someone lifts bot's pw'.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 21:41:32 trinque: mnah, if I'm doing anything at all with "IRC" in the mix, I'm doing as little as possible
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 20:58:12 trinque: if we are content with that deedbot may come back under a different name (as if freenode is the canonical repository of anything) I'll remove the SSL cruft.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929222 << i honestly thought that was the steaming turd icon.
lobbes: i.e. I preserved 'as-is/was'
lobbes: but that; tomorrow. Now I sleep.
lobbes: ^^ and with that, I will turn my attention back to testing asciilifeform's logotron for importing the uniturds
lobbes: once I genesis the 'classic' #e logotron I intend to do some testing
asciilifeform has been digging through phf's output to see how he wrapped, initially i copied his stylesheet but had to break it to get 'checkerboard'
trinque: mnah, if I'm doing anything at all with "IRC" in the mix, I'm doing as little as possible
trinque: yep, so when I migrate, noob can hijack deedbot
asciilifeform: ( can be sat behind znc, in principle, if for some reason really want. but i haven't )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929258 << hrm i cannot resist to ask : what's ssl doing in there ?
asciilifeform: tarsnap's www indeed pretty good . i remember it from a 2015 thread.
trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wRpPY/?raw=true << here's teh kind of thing I'd do
asciilifeform: trinque: apropos -- i took the liberty to put piz banner on http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/ ( btw open to improvements, if someone knows how to draw... )
BingoBoingo: I'll have to take a break from reading news from the other side of the river for the laffs.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 08:33:52 phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926224 << perhaps quarter dead, but days go to going to hospital for daily wounds dressing, sleeping a lot and going for walks, i have another sugery on monday to close me up.
lobbes: the moral, I guess, is 'pretense kills'.
trinque: cool, I'm gonna spark a doob and work on deedbot
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929257 << I cannot argue with this. In any case, I no longer intend to be on said ass
trinque: if we are content with that deedbot may come back under a different name (as if freenode is the canonical repository of anything) I'll remove the SSL cruft.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 22:34:33 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927722 << i have a suspicion that trinque set it to cycle at 0hrs (in frustration re socket wedge ?)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 16:46:59 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: you actually improved my archive process with just such a bash one-liner. I still use it to this day to get around the 'cloudflare' crapola. But you know, 10 years spent in a pot-induced fog tends to make one miss the obvious. I'm working with a new brain these days
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 13:09:14 thimbronion: BingoBoingo: here is a re-encrypted copy of the encrypted message you sent me earlier as evidence I have the private key: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Kkmtg/?raw=true
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 00:44:50 thimbronion: BingoBoingo: I can't decrypt the invoice - it is encrypted to a key I don't have.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-11#1927317 << am looking into it this evening. there's a known issue with moving keys from A to B that I'm going to resolve ☝︎