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BTC-Mining: No. Because it has to be set as a hard limit.
BTC-Mining: In 10 years, odds of data remaining gets slight, especially as the storage on which the data was is probably destroyed and unless some guy (who never gave news or disclosed this date), kept moving it to new storage as time went by, the data would be lost. Which is expectable and probable. Why would the guy keep to back it up if he's not disclosing it?
mircea_popescu: anyway, even the example as given is simplified, because it gonflates giga and glbse into A.
mircea_popescu: this makes B the involuntary bailee of C's claim, because B never leased to C any such thing as "future claims to the office space conditional on A's performance in court"
mircea_popescu: i might extend something like this as a courtesy, and for a limited time
BTC-Mining: Because you would have deleted all data with no intent to further honor it, it stands as a financial gain. Gigavps keeps track of what is due and would start paying out all missed payments.
smickles: An exception to all the above is the case of an involuntary bailee, one who by not intentional acts is made a bailee. For example, if one is given a stock certificate but it turns out to be the wrong certificate (intended for someone else), he is an unintentional bailee, he has made no intentional act to become a bailee. He is therefore entitled to divest himself of the certificate regardless of a duty of care, so long as he does no malicious or
mircea_popescu: you keep refering to nefario as if he's relevant. i don't see why he is relevant at all.
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-98-185.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user thestringpuller, with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
gribble: You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
BTC-Mining: Will you honor the most recent data available as of who owns what of the ETF should the information be disclosed and you get access to the funds received through it?
mircea_popescu: (as well as in your backups, if you're downloading the mpex backups with any frequency)
mircea_popescu: anyone can keep the stat saying "x F.GIGA" for as long as they think it's worth it.
BTC-Mining: If Nefario is screwing things up or being slow, it wouldn't excuse you from doing just as much in return. Plus it opens you to accusations. You should keep the data for at least more than 2 months is what I am saying.
BTC-Mining: I'm against opinion passing as facts, or misquoting.
kuzetsa: mircea_popescu: the glbse flaming and whatnot... don't you have ties to a competing exchange? as such, isn'
mircea_popescu: half the glbse shareholders are pretty much lieing scumbags, as it came out.
mircea_popescu: you know this as a fact ?
BTC-Mining: I claim payment period can possibly be more frequent, but not obligated. I want to know why, because of these faster periods (completly unrelated and optional), you feel it's ok to move on and delete all data just as much faster, without any knowledge of what's happening on Nefario's side?
BTC-Mining: I would attribute the frequent dividend to the nature of Bitcoins. They allow it for not being as slow and not requiring such wire fees for sending funds. Plus the small nature of operations can also manage to pay more often.
mircea_popescu: now, i haven't DONE THIS FIRST, but announced it with ample time in advance exactly so as to have the opportunity for this sort of conversation
mircea_popescu: time moves at a different pace here, as proven by the fact dividends are not paid yearly.
BTC-Mining: Especially with something as easy to avoid by simply not willingly deleting the data.
BTC-Mining: It's not like someone lost at see who is declared as such because he can't survive too long in the open sea so all efforts should be abandoned. Shares can't die, even if lost for years.
mircea_popescu: if it's not heard from in X time, the company is dissolved as worthless.
mircea_popescu: Barack Obama will be re-elected as the president of USA
BTC-Mining: As the correct issuer would not have the correct information.
BTC-Mining: eh, I'd consider that as information not released.
mircea_popescu: might as well not have happened
mircea_popescu: mkay. so " by feb 1st more than half the shareholders are reinstated in at least two of gigamining, asicminer, bitbond as a result of nefario releasing the lists to the respective asset owners"
BTC-Mining: But seeing as he sent payments (the good amounts) to many and it's not completed after one month, it doesn't look like he lost the database. But he's been incredibly slow.
mircea_popescu: as in, "get more shares of the same company for the same usd"
smickles: or they see it as an investment where they want a return in usd terms, they don't care about btc value fluctuations
mod6: “This ranks as the third worst relative performance for Q1-Q3 since our records begin in 1994, following 1995’s 12.8% and 1997’s 11%.”
mod6: “Hedge funds are up 3.04% year-to-date as of September, 2012, compared to 13.97% for the S&P 500,” said Mary Ann Bartels, technical research analyst at Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: so option prices will decline as the month closes?
jurov: as i said... he wants to reuse your ID for mtgox registration
smickles: well, it happens to be the same as mt right now
kakobrekla: [16:43:07] happyworld: margain trading as Bitcoinica
Chaang-Noi: at first i thought the site being down means nothing as he can still pay out, but then i thought, i bet not everyone has made claims...
Chaang-Noi: as you know, who gets their first gets awesome pay:)
dub: as in a part so small it cannot be measured
dub: I like to think of myself being as genetically removed from Luke-Jr as possible
kuzetsa: mircea_popescu: I don't understand. israel isn't structured in such a way as to have a royal family / nobles / prince and princess I didn't think.
kuzetsa: yeah uh... I live a couple hours south of buffalo with various "upstate rednecks" as neigbours. whee!
kuzetsa: http://goo.gl/zJBdq --- 16,000-square-mile (41,000 km2) urban area that is 26 times larger geographically than Greater London, or about the same size as the Netherlands, with a population of over 56 million (not including Hong Kong or Macau)...
mircea_popescu: as long as the block keep coming 6 an hour i think there's enough mining
mircea_popescu: as if there actually is something to do.
mircea_popescu: the uninformed public will for sure frame it as "central banks aren't doing enough!!11"
mircea_popescu: as bitcoin develops and the uselessness of their scrip will become more and more apparent
mircea_popescu: "do indeed fall within central banks’ responsibility as a result of characteristics shared with
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller go to http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/12ad2u/as_julia_a_moore_would_have_said_the_storm_that/
smickles: so it could be hit-or-miss as to whether or not it even gets noticed really
mircea_popescu: in the way of go here http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/12ad2u/as_julia_a_moore_would_have_said_the_storm_that/ and post something like
thestringpuller: do options get cheaper as the expiration date approaches?
Chaang-Noi: well i did not know it was a scam (and still have no proof it was) but thought might as well let people do what they want, esp since theymos asked for it
Chaang-Noi: they are being agressive as well
Chaaang-Noi: theymos as on record as saying he thought it was a ponzi and then asking people to list ppts on glbse makes him open to a lot of shit
Chaaang-Noi: pirate did not have a security so i thought it was kinda odd the sec was going after him, as all he did was borrow money
Chaaang-Noi: but the case started out as anti glbse the case is called "bitcoin securities"
smickles: np, take as long as you want
thepulledstring: It'll stay as reserve for now
smickles: i try not to define myself by something so base as what somet people call the ground i walk on ;)
mircea_popescu: i used to shot fuckers in the head and bury them in concrete pillars when i was his age, never was as much as charged.
mircea_popescu: (yes, i literally have nasa alumni on the team, they are ruining everyone's weekends with ideas such as "well what if this is used in outerspace")
jurov: i'm okay with fractional numbers as strings, that may be necessary to preserve accuracy. but wrapping integers into strings is overkill.
mircea_popescu: jurov and iirc the idea was that "everything as string" is the best choice for universal compatibility
jurov: dates in nonstandard format, all numbers as "strings"... looks like MPExAgent will stay useful
dub: as he is interested in pursuing his, looser, brother
knotwork: Bankers ought to love bitcoin because being limited in supply it lets them control markets by with-holding medium of exchange as usual plus also possibly unlike gold it can be bubbled to any arbitrary value for use as "reserves" and might be cheaper to store too
knotwork: oh sure I didnt tell judge I would not smoke it! but weed is more or less as expensive an indulgence for a starving datacentre-operator as beer is
knotwork: actually its been months since I so much as had a beer
knotwork: No I am taking over the world (as a loyal subject of King Linus, of course)
knotwork: I'd have to swear allegiance to the Queen of Canada, which would be an insult to me as a subject of the Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
OneMiner: Anyways. If the queen is only good for ceremony and drawing in tourists... then let her do that. They can be as royal as they want, just don't use any public monies or lands. Let them follow the same rules as everybody else if these rules are so good. Full disclosure: I'm not a UK citizen.
OneMiner: Ether one, I could use a .22 and get it done as well.
knotwork: 5th november is almost a national holiday so as never to forget
knotwork: actually it wasnt even selling charge its worded as possession with intent to sell so is not only assuming guilt its assuming intent
knotwork: I was willing to go to supreme court on that as assuming guilt so the dropped the selling charges and gave me 30 days weekends for the cultivation
knotwork: hmm maybe weekend countes as 3 days. it counted for more than it really was for sure
knotwork: come in fiday night leave monday morning counts as four days
Chaaang-Noi: thats why glbse was acting as the broker
smickles: "As of 26 February 2012, it appears that the satellite has not settled into the orbit properly. Due to a malfunction to its stabilizing system, it is expected that the satellite will spin uncontrollably and eventually get lost in space. However, the coordinator of the project, Mugurel Bălan has stated that the situation is under control."
mircea_popescu: as in, the roman curia
BTC-Mining: As long as issuers keep the accounting and putting the BTC aside for when that data is released.
mircea_popescu: it'd be about as useful as a bunion.
mircea_popescu: it'd have to be released as a per-issuer section, encrypted with the issuer's public key.
smickles: well, seems like it can be utilized as a very quick and simple check for differences
BTC-Mining: Would they be as performant for any task? Doesn't seem so. Aren't dev boards more like generic CPU for performing a larger variety of tasks?
BTC-Mining: And even if it's not a simulation... It's a universe with particles and a set of rules how they interact... It's basically the same as a simulation, but in more complex.
mircea_popescu: this is old as dirt.
jurov: i don't remember, it was months ago... but as you see, at least on decryption you don't have any parameter there
mircea_popescu: as the simplest and most common example)
mircea_popescu: (such as, for instance, if the company goes bankrupt you can't be clawbacked
jurov: i'm in a bit of a risky mood and don't think price will be back at 12 in 4 days, would create approriate options for you as a proper broker would... but my head is spinning already
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as if they would have otherwise sold/bought on the mtgox market for sure.
EskimoBob: bitinstant? in google search I can see "BitInstant.com is currently down due to site revisions. All orders placed up to this point will process as normal. If you have any questions or issues feel free to ..." but when I go to the site, it looks OK
jurov: as long as you don't expect to do X transactions per second or more, then it's possible
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining any guess as to what % of roman empire subjects ever touched a solidus ?
mircea_popescu: i take a number of measures to prevent as much as possible a crack