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kakobrekla: man where is garrett, i really want
to hear what
that shitface has
to say
Duffer1: that's what
they were using
to fake
the hashrate
Duffer1: the ipo funds were used
to purchase bitfurys
Duffer1: i forget if
the bitfury revelation came before
the alberto link
dub: don't worry
though,
they hedged with activemining
kakobrekla: some prolly still dont, even
though raped by evidence.
kakobrekla: even
then some people just didnt want
to belive.
dub: bascially he's got
the kind of problems only bullets can solve
Duffer1: ya zenpad or somethin like
that
kakobrekla: and
the other was "adwords way before its
time"
kakobrekla: and
there are 2 scams of him from before bitcoin
time
jurov: aren§t
they behind doge?
Duffer1: 7000btc probably more, we suspect
they
traded on
their knowledge of update
timing
jcpham: how much did
they net?
jcpham: oh labcoin
turned out
to be scam after all?
Duffer1: they're probably busy devising
their next scam
dub: he'll just
throw
them a loli bunga bunga party
Duffer1: it will be interesting
to see what happens for sure
nubbins`: yeah, get
the italian authorities
to arrest a guy who owns a bunch of btc
Duffer1: besides, having policia postale go after
them is free
dub: no where near enough revenge killing in
the bitcoin scene
Duffer1: first communication in months is a
threat lol
Duffer1: labcoin shareholders,
the body of bagholders helping
to gather evidence for an italian criminal complaint
Duffer1: no it was a
threat
to one of
the LCSH members coordinating
the complaint
nubbins`: have
they adopted a meme animal?
Duffer1: wow so apparently
there's new communication from Labcoin
dub: russia afraid of competition in its own crime and
terrorism currency, no more buttcoin foundation..
nubbins`: shremmy looks like a silk road customer
too
dub: cockmeat sandwich
tiem
kakobrekla: you can hold
the switch in one hand or
tape it
to desk if you want
TomServo: hmm. Guess you need
to by a keyboard first?
kakobrekla: but by description,
that one is not for me anyway
kakobrekla: does not include
the newest 'green' switch
TomServo: kakobrekla: did you mention a cherry switch sample
thingy?
FabianB: that's why i say it might be
too late
Namworld: We might reach 40%
TODAY at
this rate
kakobrekla: >MtGox USD price of Bitcoin
to be 40 percent higher
than any of
the other major exchanges (BTC-e, BitStamp) any
time before May.
FabianB: can't see
the
text anymore
jurov: to keep
the suspense what will happen sooner
jurov: make it so
that it resolves as No if mtgox completely blows up
FabianB: hmm..
the bitbet proposition "MtGox premium
to exceed 40 percent" might be
too late..
jurov: ^at least
this one is in europe... but you need
to know
the locals
mjr_: but you are
the person
trying
to move
the dirty money
mjr_: now you know
they were mine at one point
mjr_: i can send my clean coins
that no one knows are mine
to you
mjr_: I can accept cash, in a briefcase, i
think
thats how
they do it in movies
mjr_: we are
talking about moving drug money
mjr_: we aren't
talking about laundering coins
mjr_: even if its been used a million
times as long as NONE of
those uses intersect with MY identity, you can never
trace it
to me
mjr_: super simple, OR it has come from random miner, and gone
to a new address on
the network
mjr_: to
the same address
dub: nepal is in china remember, better off staying in
the states
mjr_: i
thought it was just a bitcoin address
mjr_: what information do
they have
to rat?
dub: nepal is
the last place you want
to go
mjr_: these are
their bitcoin addresses, happy hunting
mjr_: why would
that matter
TATonaplane
mjr_: that is
the goal asciilifeform
mjr_: most of
the
transactions are
too small
to matter
to
them,
there are no digital records of what happened, and
the people were not involved in bitcoin as a business
mjr_: who met up with others at a meeting using
the satoshi square brand
mjr_: that EVEN if
they wanted
to go for individuals
mjr_: but
that leads me
to point B
mjr_: because
that was part A
mjr_: if
they used facebook
to buy bitcoins
to use on silk road
TATonaplane: Any individual acting as a
twoway dealer might
mjr_: pretty hard
to launder money when you've never HAD money, or
touched money
mjr_: we did not "make a market" ie offer
to buy and sell at
the same
time, in fact satoshi square as an entity if you can even call it
that has never bought or sold a coin
mjr_: in
that we were not counterparty
mjr_: which, is one benefit of
talking vs email
mjr_: because first of all i never heard
that
jurov: aren§t you complicite,
then_
mjr_: so a person AT satoshi square COULD be just as in
trouble
jurov: even if you overheard people
talking about doing btc business on silk road?
mjr_: the burden of compliance is devolved
to all individuals
mjr_: nor do we have any compliance because we are simply a host, a facilitator of people meeting for
their own reasons
mjr_: is
that satoshi square has never said we have any role in moving your coins
mjr_: the reason we brought
this up
mjr_: it was just someone breaking
the rules, bringing
tons of attention
to himself, and
then getting caught
mjr_: so I don't
think its a witchhunt
mjr_: i'm just saying
that admitting what rules you
think you are supposed
to follow means you should at least make it appear you follow
THOSE rules
mjr_: They even say in
the complaint "Bitcoin is not inherently illegal and
there are many approved uses"
mjr_: they are basically making
the case
that A. You knew
the rules you were supposed
to follow B. You were in charge of enforcing
those rules C. You did not follow or enforce
those rules
mjr_: i'm just saying
that is what
the DEA et al PUT INTO
THEIR COMPLAINT
kakobrekla: it wouldnt have mattered whats on
the website
mjr_: i'm saying you leave a huge liability on
the
table
mjr_: and when you say "I
take responsibility for making sure we follow all
these rules, I enforce
them"