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mircea_popescu: "No one observing
the Western governments
today can fail
to be struck by a massive sense of sleepwalking.
There is no unified consciousness or purpose behind
their actions. Each of
their decisions is an atom unto itself, made
through an almost ritualized process by a large number of very intelligent,
talented and ambitious people, whose abilities
tend
to cancel each other almost perfectly, leaving nothing but a chillin
mircea_popescu: btw, you
two,
that guy's post is a good checklist of what
to do. see if you can match all his links
mircea_popescu: it's what you get in exchange for a classics education, you can entertain yourself with any string of
text.
mircea_popescu: finally,
the kids got what
they really wanted all along!
mircea_popescu: one of
these days one of
those agents shoots his comanding officer and
then
there you have it, you bought m's
tea and cookies for him.
mircea_popescu: i am curious whether overall
the value of
the guy
to
the cia was greater
than
the value of
the cia
to
the guy.
mircea_popescu: The prison had a debriefing room, where Mohammed, who saw himself as something of a professor, held "office hours," as he
told CIA officers. While chained
to
the floor, Mohammed would lecture
the CIA officers on his path
to jihad, his childhood and family.
Tea and cookies were served.
jurov: kakobrekla i know i just wanted
to start something. when it gets bad i'll migrate
to something more customized
pankkake: someone smart/not lazy could probably game
the bet, with enough mining equipment
nubbins`: you might want
to remind
them
that you can't stop
them from doing so,
though!
ThickAsThieves: I decided it prudent not
to go convincing people
to list ATC
til i get
that source code
pankkake: it would have
to be on an exchange first
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i
tell you, if #bitcoin-assets
trollcoin made on a lark ends up disloging doge, you will have SO MUCH angry wanna-be financial darklord butthurt on your hands
mircea_popescu: there's been some formalisation of
this principle going on so far,
too.
decimation: anyway, if Bitcoinstein rises
to rule
the world one day, it is likely
that
the history recorded here will be used as
the basis for law
mircea_popescu: i keep
telling
these doods altcoins are useful, and
they only don't
throw
things at me because i'm fucking scary.
decimation: The more white altcoins
there are,
the more obvious
the choice of
the black pawn becomes
mircea_popescu: and nobody can understand why anyone
thought seinfeld was a big deal in 1995
mircea_popescu: sorta
the same
thing at work, in
the world which it made, which is entirely populated by its clones and copies, it seems... oddly banal.
nubbins`: pascale's assessment of funds on havelock: "none of
these seem
to be worth buying"
mircea_popescu: this is a well documented phenomenon in movies/entertainment, where a show
that pioneers a lot of new devices
that are
then amply copied, when seen by later generations seems "stale" and "uninteresting"
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> Apocalyptic perhaps
the reason it is an easy call
today is
that
today happens in an universe which was shaped by
the uneasy calling yesterday. // you may well be right
mircea_popescu: and perhaps had
that not been called
then, it'd be just as difficult
to call
today as it was
then, and
then you'd know about it,
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic perhaps
the reason it is an easy call
today is
that
today happens in an universe which was shaped by
the uneasy calling yesterday.
kakobrekla: gotta be persistent, you know, and
things
turn around.
mircea_popescu: "Unbelievable as it may sound,
the US economy
today is a shadow of what it was in
the '70s."
Apocalyptic: i don't specifically recall
these quotes
though
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic if you've ever seen V for vendetta,
there's
that scene with "i've already killed you"
decimation: Ja
the dictatorship of art is
the ideal
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves actually, strangest
thing :
they do! if it has my seal of approval on it,
they'll do it even if it makes no sense.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic it's not necessarily
true. if you won't live in a world without cunt, and right
this second i
turn all women's crotch into angels' how long would it be before you realise i did it ?
ThickAsThieves: How about
this bet : Altcoin is
the best altcoin.
This bet resolves as Yes if
the answer is No.
pankkake: I
think
there are
too many blocks per second and
thus even my good finds get rejected
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu,
that implies something must have recently changed
that is strong enough
to shift
the reality
to
the other category of worlds
pankkake: I guess
the bet could be "altcoin difficulty
to be exactly X", but I don't know what could be a good number
mircea_popescu: they have a set of worlds
they'll live in, and a set of worlds
they won't.
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 people generally do not wish
to live in any possible world.
mircea_popescu: pankkake make a bitbet bet as
to how many 4s you get ?
Duffer1: any
thoughts on
the recent high profile bankster suicides?
mircea_popescu: did i see 1024 altscamcoin difficulty earlier ?
that means you missed no quadrupling yet ?!
ThickAsThieves: just realized
that
this and our prior bacterial
topic bring new subtlety
to "trust your gut"
decimation: www.netagio.com <-- has anyone used
this exchange?
mircea_popescu: those with good reason for good reason,
those without good reason for d-k reasons.
mircea_popescu: this is
true of gold,
too, at least up
to about 2005 or so. however... it did
take > 2k years with gold.
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's not clear atm
that an improvement on bitcoin is in principle possible.
mircea_popescu: i suspect
the reason is people
tend
to spend more
time looking at other bits, and so lack practice.
mircea_popescu: possibly,
tho i find female facials easier
to read
than males.
ThickAsThieves: probly mostly cuz female facial expressions were never well-interpreted
too
ThickAsThieves: language exists so we dont have
to hit each other and grunt
to communicate, just more economy at work
decimation: At least James
Turk is smart enough
to recognize a good
thing when he sees it. Hopefully he will get his bitcoin exchange running at some point.
Duffer1: i'd be surprised if it
took 15 years
ThickAsThieves: and why in 15 years bitcoiners will be crying over some newer
thing
mircea_popescu: and
tbh i kinda feel for him. sadly
tho,
they also can't be helped, because... as
tat points out, "The problem here is
that you have no mechanism with which
to do so, and
that because language is not employed for
the purpose you imagine it employed."
mircea_popescu: imagine if after having pampered jesus for 30 years,
the entire
thing was suddenly
taken over by baby allah.
mircea_popescu: to have, within
their lifetime,
their cookie stolen by a newcomer...
mircea_popescu: well in
their defense,
they just rooted for
the correct principle
their whole life, fighting valliantly for
their sanity as an oppressed minority.
decimation: Whereas
that's bitcoin's greatest strength, as you point out.
decimation: I find
the goldbug's (enemies of
the fiatists) objections
to bitcoin
to be amusing, because
they complain about
the lack of physicality.
mircea_popescu: he does get a lot of mileage in wordcount out of restating
the banal, but he does so in a pleasant form and
this is a good
thing,
decimation: Right, and all
the game-theory arguments about savings is really just restating Gresham's law
mircea_popescu: this strengthening
the chief pillar of all hermeneutics.
mircea_popescu: or in other words,
the reasons all
the "experts" in old-fiat crap give for bitcoin's failure
chetty: You can pass such a law,
they pass unenforceable law all
the
time
ThickAsThieves: but when 20-yr contracts run out, his job gets
trickier
mircea_popescu: more importantly
tho...
there's no rational way
to represent property in yet-unmined blocks.
this is so obvious it escapes notice
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is immune
to human agency, which means you can't pass a law
to hinder it's fungibility.