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mike_c: couple stock holdings taking a hit isn'
t that big a deal
mike_c: berkshire isn'
t a holding company.
mod6: hmm. i can'
t get to any of 'em, maybe i r blocked
bounce: "idiot user" is too easily said. the real problem is lack of education and devs going "oh we'll make the software SMRT so you don'
t have to think at all!"
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'you lamer, betcha own x86 boxes and like it, trololol' << pete got a bunch of that on his software doesn'
t fail recent thing too
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla didn'
t, no. you're too dry for this language :)
Plaxant: mircea_popescu agree, if you have no negativity in your life you skate and just don'
t care about doing better.
mircea_popescu: commenting it to show when it won'
t work rather than "what you imagine it does" is even more useful.
mircea_popescu: <bounce> the bitcoin source is actually reasonably portable and doesn'
t depend on "helpful" stuff like cmake << also true.
mircea_popescu: <jurov> you have to feed it a blockchain to avoid endless waiting? << not like we can'
t keep an official copy for bootstrapping, or else people who have the patience can just make their own
mircea_popescu: othernubs`> let others extend. i don'
t want gpg to incorporate curl libs so it can automatically grab otps from gribs << EXACTLY. do one thing, do it well.
bounce: the bitcoin source is actually reasonably portable and doesn'
t depend on "helpful" stuff like cmake
mircea_popescu: othernubs`> i don'
t think gui should be a priority, at all. << prolly not. if they kill the qt branch it would be no loss anyway
bounce: they got derided for that, but really, the feature shouldn'
t have been in there in the first place. that, or something that actually did what it said it'd do.
othernubs`: i don'
t want real bitcoin to come default w/ candy
othernubs`: let others extend. i don'
t want gpg to incorporate curl libs so it can automatically grab otps from gribs
othernubs`: i don'
t think gui should be a priority, at all.
mike_c: charter ideas: 1) maintain a workable core with no shit in it. 2) specify bitcoin 3) write a new implementation because you can'
t polish a turd.
mircea_popescu: cazalla by the way, intel sez that the reason you've not heard from sgornick nor will you is that the guy meanwhile figured out i'm involved, and doesn'
t like me either because i said nigger or cunt at some point in the past.
othernubs`: SatoshiCore: don'
t run with the chumps
thestringpuller: you don'
t know if you're on death's door if you get assinated
bounce: perhaps not a good idea to rely on them. then again, hosting a git repo isn'
t exactly difficult.
mircea_popescu: jurov well, ideally people on death's door aren'
t in the chair position.
bounce: them 'merkins really can'
t keep their fingers out of anything and they manage to fsck up everywhere. not a new observation, but it hasn'
t ceased to be painfully true either.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: On a side note, I've noticed Roger Ver's bitcoinstore is not...around anymore? << well it wasn'
t really making all that much.
bounce: not that that wouldn'
t have happened a bit later anyway, with the sharia-huggers
mircea_popescu: bounce and whoever does won'
t have em for long, you know ?
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> sooo.... why military bases then ? // didn'
t get that either
mike_c: isn'
t somebody making a good alternative implementation? why take 0.5.3 as the b-a client.
bounce: wasn'
t forking the point of the whole thing?
mod6: so the debian source list generator thingy didn'
t put it in there that i need lines that tell me to go to just "squeeze" itself, not just "squeeze-updates" or w/e. will paste.
mod6: and the apt-get lines in the start of the script failed because the sources.list didn'
t have the things it's looking for. so I manually added some more that I got from the deb source list thingy, but that didn'
t seem to help much. it's in the pastes, check the log.
ben_vulpes: still caffinating can'
t keep up already
ben_vulpes: mod6: plenty of sense. i was a little startled to see that your debian dist didn'
t come with sudo.
mod6: when testing this, i don'
t wanna to "hack" a bunch of stuff together. i'd like to do it in a linear manner so seeing what was required is simple. because I'm sure that I can just start pulling down packages on my own and get it to work. just was trying to keep it simple.
jurov: can'
t stop chuckling
bounce: though that osfund.co website manages to fuck up harder. doesn'
t even render any content here, just the menu bar.
bounce: I don'
t care if maladjusted angry youths want to run away and make trouble in a war zone. I do care if they come back, recruit some more kids (to do the same), cause trouble, shoot some jews, what have you.
jurov: i don'
t know why i did not do more of it myself. only once tried SMB packed of death against neighbor's win machine flooding the ether with all kinds of windoze packets
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: this suggests a novel attack vector: depress price strategically to drive miners out, <<< except miners don'
t go in and out with the price. the market is amortisation driven, they have the gear and have to use it, so they'll use it.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: it's completely wild to see how much the bitcoin network hashrate fluctuates. << you understand those aren'
t directly measured, but more like calculated after the fact ? it's normal variance, you're trying to guess how many times a coin is tossed by how many heads you see. well...
☟︎ thestringpuller: couldn'
t you just ask trustworthy miners like slush for the pool stats?
pete_dushenski: i haven'
t tried their other equipment but it's priced to a point where i certainly have high expectations
pete_dushenski: ya wasn'
t there a dogecoin mining botnet on android fones too?
ben_vulpes: "i can read java and stuff, but can'
t handle cli programs"
ben_vulpes: that's a pretty funny self-indictment of javaland if you don'
t mind my saying so.
thestringpuller: not quite as bad as your private key isn'
t stored on some fuckers machine in his mom's basement
thestringpuller: old pete_dushenski will one day think like Jeezy, "Seen'
t it all"
pete_dushenski: this was after anthony tried calling me several times, leaving voicemails about how he "didn'
t know i felt that way about ethereum" and shit.
thestringpuller: You didn'
t link the article on "the problem of too much money"
pete_dushenski: and there hasn'
t been any anonslaught for the latest piece. but it's only been a few hours.
mircea_popescu: the noobs aren'
t really capable of handling the sort of requirements to dld a full chain.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to be perfectly fair : the bdb arrangement wasn'
t really tenable on the long haul. it had to be replaced with a better db.
mircea_popescu: you can'
t mix and match blkxxxx from one install with another's.
mircea_popescu: the client doesn'
t keep "blocks" exactly, it's messier
TheNewDeal: I've just seen up to block 315k on tpb, but wasn'
t sure what the file format was
mircea_popescu: but you don'
t want it to sync anyway, just feed it a preindexed chain.
mircea_popescu: my twitter's dead and i don'
t feel like social media anyway
othernubs`: Apocalyptic, i'm attempting to guide the conversation towards stating what is and isn'
t desired in the codebase
othernubs`: ...is anyone able to express succinctly yet accurately why current release isn'
t okay?
othernubs`: maybe we start with defining what's in current that we don'
t want
mod6: ben_vulpes: so the main issue was the deps so far. i went to the deb site and it gave me some to add to the sources.list, but didn'
t seem to help. i can try something different tomorrow if you have suggestions.
ben_vulpes: but i don'
t see any roadblocks at this time.
mircea_popescu: trade deal (that circumvents the US dollar). In comparison, the US is a dead man walking: unless it can continue rolling over trillions of dollars in short-term debt every month at record-low interest rates, it won'
t be able to pay the interest on its debt or its bills.
mircea_popescu: Financially, Russia's position is so solid that even the three Western credit ratings agencies don'
t have the gall to downgrade Russia's rating, sanctions notwithstanding. This is a country that is aggressively paying down its foreign debt, is running a record-high budget surplus, has a positive balance of payments, is piling up physical gold reserves, and not a month goes by that it doesn'
t sign a major international
mircea_popescu: five bux, which is a gross estimate of its actual net worth, won'
t make a difference.
undata: mod6: nah that wouldn'
t be general across distros
mircea_popescu:
t lots of conventional forces right in the heart of Europe)."
mircea_popescu: "For example, it is known that after the end of World War II America's military planners were thinking of launching a nuclear strike against the USSR, and the only thing that held them back was the fact that they didn'
t have enough bombs, meaning that Russia would have taken over all of Europe before the effects of the nuclear strikes could have deterred them from doing so (Russia had no nuclear weapons at the time, bu
mircea_popescu: this for a number of reasons, chief among which : the reported figures doesn'
t and hasn'
t for decades included all sorts of figures.
mircea_popescu: "You'd think that Obama has already overplayed his hand, and should behave accordingly. His popularity at home is roughly the inverse of Putin's, which is to say, Obama is still more popular than Ebola, but not by much. He can'
t get anything at all done, no matter how pointless or futile, and his efforts to date, at home and abroad, have been pretty much a disaster. So what does this social worker turned national masco
mircea_popescu: well... narratives aren'
t soldiers, narratives are whores. substantially different.
mircea_popescu: "At that time the stakes weren'
t very high yet. There was much noise around a fellow named Magnitsky, a corporate lawyer-crook who got caught and died in pretrial custody. He had been holding items for some bigger Western crooks, who were, of course, never apprehended. The Americans chose to treat this as a human rights violation and responded with the so-called “Magnitsky Act” which sanctioned certain Russian indi