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mircea_popescu: i didn't mean by hand yo
nubbins`: ah, nothing in particular, i don't think. merging bugfixes etc from 0.6 would be next i guess
undata: and.. ain't that some shit.
The20YearIRCloud: Your ATMs aren't outside?
mircea_popescu: lmao check that shit out, doesn't even exist in english.
mircea_popescu: well so you can't see.
undata: I can't see how it could be any other way.
mircea_popescu: but no, we can't do better, because otherwise the fucking bums start nesting there.
bounce: bit of a cop out. can't we do better?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla well that's the thing, they don';t.
mircea_popescu: (i don't mean it never is, i mean the noun is outside the domain of availability of the adjective. like a circle can't be heavy, 2d figures have no weight)
undata: obviously someone thought it worth writing about the barrel or you wouldn't be saying so.
asciilifeform: doesn't everyone presume his way of living best, or he'd do otherwise << 'you go to war with the enemy you have, not the enemy you wish you had'
mircea_popescu: anyway, you;ll appreciate i didn't bring him up in the definition of "fuck you rich"
mircea_popescu: but on anecdotic evidence, whether people believe that or don't is more of an indicator of whether the polis is on the upswing or downswing than anything personal.
undata: mircea_popescu: doesn't everyone presume his way of living best, or he'd do otherwise?
mircea_popescu: well, the problem with "discussing the art of living" is diogenes. as in, discussion requires common ground. which isn't a given.
The20YearIRCloud: TBH i can't remember what project you're involved in
mircea_popescu: yeah, guy famously got caught jacking off in the forum (roughly equivalent to putting pron tumblr pix in the serious #b-a chan) and when confronted said that his only regret is that hunger doesn't also abate by rubbing the stomach.
undata: mircea_popescu: I would never force anyone to live a certain way (provided it didn't encroach on my own) but I think it's essential to discuss ways to improve the art of living.
asciilifeform: even the comparatively smaller undertaking i'm presently engaged in - still doesn't come cheap. (i speak of the tooling which i have not charged to the piggy, but also of the fact that i cannot convert btc to usd even for those portions where expenses invoiced. as previously recounted here.)
mircea_popescu: undata how about "you don't get to say what should be interesting to other people" ?
The20YearIRCloud: I wouldn't say every american is driven by greed
asciilifeform: if i can't afford projects, it isn't life.
mircea_popescu: how do you figure the people in the vid fit that theory ? they don't seem overweight.
bounce: isn't that like a requirement for teenagers? whine, at least 50% of the time.
asciilifeform confesses he didn't have the audio plugged in
mircea_popescu: which 16 yo kids can't do, because highschool.
undata: wouldn't break a window; would swing for his dad. fascinating.
undata: coward wouldn't even go for a window, not that he could break one the way he was swinging
mircea_popescu: i don't recall anything being publicly announced.
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't be exactly static, no.
wywialm: mircea_popescu, quite well, but i don't see how can i use two linear instruments to obtain nonlinear payoff
wywialm: isn't it only for binary trades? that appplies to bitbet as well
mircea_popescu: well, basically, if you have a lot of volume you advertise it and you'll find someone. if you don't... well... you don't.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well you wouldn't go through life with your living decided by a five year old's understanding of what's going on, neh ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, there's land where "the indies" were supposed to be, too. that doesn't mean columbus found india.
chetty: I always thought it had more to do with being willing to live without whatever to the extent you would say $fuckyou to the boss, doesn't have to be money
asciilifeform: well it has a meaning - most folks aren't bums, and possibly don't even inhabit a mental space where bums exist (other than in the vaguely 'doomy' sense that death exists for them)
mircea_popescu: but that's besides the point isn';t it.
asciilifeform: and most of the speakers are not street bums, and so aren't sitting on a floor one cannot fall through
mircea_popescu: and that isn't a matter of perspective ?
mircea_popescu: well she doesn't seem to be working, does she.
asciilifeform doesn't quite grasp what he's seeing
Vexual: hey i don't give a fuck, im impressed you strayed on for so long
TomServo: Vexual: It wasn't intentional, my host was disconnected. Muhbad.
TomServo: Oh ahah, yeah - wasn't sure how/why I ended up with the ops either.
mircea_popescu: the pill against this, of course, is mp on rape, all that discussion about how the ignorant don't know what they're ignorant of and therefore can't make choices as to what to learn and how to learn it. which is why mp is so unpopular with this particular crowd of retards.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` "i don't believe i suck because i suck, let me rephrase this five thousand different ways maybe one sticks"
Vexual: okay, i wasn't born then, fill me in
Vexual: *can't
Vexual: i havent watched for a while, i don't know who is on it
Vexual: i can't talk i get silly on the stuff all the time
Vexual: Meng Fei wouldn't let him speak
Vexual: i don't know that one
Vexual: bit early isn't it?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Anyways with the dependopatomus I don't think the jealousy comes from them resenting what their actual highschool classmates had when they weren't in the service, but jealousy of what the hollywood version of the rest of their high school class ahd.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I think you wrote on geek wanting to be gifted a woman in his closet who doesn't need for anything. Dependopotamus trope is the inverse of that.
undata: mircea_popescu: this is the insecurity of many men, that if they can't keep their woman, it must be the wretched whore's fault.
Adlai pokes around to see if he hasn't lent out his copy
BingoBoingo: Adlai: It isn't cannibalism if you merely plan to take them to the rendering plant for fuel and not the abbatoir for meat
mircea_popescu: these considerations are important, i can't be immitated by merely taking pictures.
mircea_popescu: as in, don't shoot to have shot, shoot to have killed.
asciilifeform: 'hit such that ain't there one bullet but there's one enemy.'
asciilifeform: incidentally that phrase (in picture) doesn't translate one bit.
Adlai still maintains that human society is cannibalistic, we just don't eat flesh directly
undata: and don't they long for it?
undata: what's the next step? doesn't someone come along and become that meaning for them?
mircea_popescu: undata ^ there you go. he didn't say anything about oligarchs. he just promised order.
ben_vulpes: how am i supposed to read all these lines i didn't write?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i never heard of a colonel that wasn't ever a private.
asciilifeform: today - col. x won't blow away wh because he has an imaginary retirement with hunting dogs and cocksuckresses living in the spiderwebby recesses of his balding skull.
mircea_popescu: because if you don't charge might as well shave, oil up and go to the harem.
asciilifeform: many places will get things they don't strictly need.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it seriouslt doesn't need so much defense. would be smartasses are well shy
mircea_popescu: decimation doubt it. croatian military didn't "fracture". nor did serbian.
asciilifeform: the digital computer is a beautiful dream. good and well, but you can't dream the dream without some 'meat' to dream it with.
mircea_popescu: undata: a highly armed, extremely disciplined military doesn't just vanish because the congressmen stop coming to work << obviously not. it just starts working for me instead ?
asciilifeform: decimation: yes. incidentally this is why we can't really do asynchronous logic (e.g. muller's gate) on extant fpga.
asciilifeform: go find something other than chemical fuel that you can charge at 22 MW but won't discharge unexpectedly at 22 MW.
asciilifeform: but given example wasn't so bad, 'molten slag' is also a metastable state.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform isn't the probability to find a metastable state roughlt linear with system energy ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: no need for the 74xx to melt - enough to 'get lucky' and reach a metastable state in one or more switching elements << for pure wankeriferious interest : wouldn't supercooling it be a pill against all this ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparelty people don't trust that it apperently comes in different qualities
asciilifeform: welded to a boat, also doesn't work >>> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-01-2014#436318 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: just in case you don't like it, as it were.
mircea_popescu: "insurance policy" ? "here's a car that doesn't work, and just to make sure, we welded to it a boat that also doesn't work" ? is this a way to live?
decimation: all this does seem to break down to something like "we want a computer to enforce a human language contract" which ain't gonna happen
mircea_popescu: suppose you're with a girl that doesn't wanna fuck you.
mircea_popescu: kinda why i don't think much of the entire "multisig" bullcrap.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can't blame him. only way out of that one.
asciilifeform: protocol validator in the middle << people don't seem to get this. 'secure' is not a gigantic mechanized orchestra of quis custodiet ipsos custodes.
mircea_popescu: back when there weren't any enemies listening in on our lists
decimation: asciilifeform: wouldn't it be a good idea for the privkey need not live in the same memory space as the rest of the code, for instance
mod6: this hasn't been done for some time, and probably needs to come back.
undata: doesn't have to be git
mircea_popescu: and you can't just expect "conscience" to resist indefinitely.
mircea_popescu: so if version x is signed by people i know and version y is signed by people i don't know, x is official and fu.
decimation: asciilifeform: isn't the linux kernel still done this way?
decimation: the important part isn't the signature, it's the code