asciilifeform: ( slightly less than double of what the comp i am sitting on now, eats )

asciilifeform: re energy -- my 3620 drew ~600 W.

asciilifeform: then alpha died and curtain.

asciilifeform: but toolate.

asciilifeform: last gasp was the emulator, on dec alpha ( forced choice, no other 64bit chip on the market then ) , ran at 3x speed of the best actual chip

asciilifeform: ( they didn't own a fab, either, contracted )

asciilifeform: because fab ain't cheap.

asciilifeform: *to death

asciilifeform: eventually they shrunk ~whole thing down to 1 die ( + crapple mac 'quadra' for support ) and bankrupted to dead in the process.

asciilifeform: as for weight, original bolix was doublefridge size. the 3620 (what i have here) was paraded when debuted by the ceo hand carried on a stage in front of audience, 'only 100 pounds!'

asciilifeform: if we're speaking of 1980s, no comp maker then engineered 'for power draw and ecology', it was a nonstarter

asciilifeform: ( lattice co.'s whole niche is micropower fpga )

asciilifeform: 1 that runs on 'aa' battery.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: you ~can~ make a i386. or a m68k. mips. 'ivory'... etc

asciilifeform: ( and that's the global clock net max, rather than 'hey i can make a pentium pro'. LUT delay is 10ns+ iirc )

asciilifeform: ice40 series tops out at 250Mhz iirc, so it'd be a modest thing. but working.

asciilifeform: upstack : in case it wasn't obvious : it is possible to make ddr2 sdram controller , nic, etc.

asciilifeform: hm.

asciilifeform: ( though admittedly i do not know the conditions which determine when )

asciilifeform: not every craft ends up creating a self-licking-icecreamcone guild

asciilifeform: varies.

asciilifeform: how's that

asciilifeform: was referring to 'medical profession' in the desirable 'people who actually use antiseptics and know how not to cut random arteries as they go' rather than 'caste of egomaniacal brahmins' american sense.

asciilifeform: the interesting bit re the comp is the absence of anything corresponding to the actual medical profession

asciilifeform: point ( and i stole it from naggum, it is neither original to me nor to him ) is that most folx know better than to operate on their friends' internals

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: it is not the fault of the knife, no.

asciilifeform: there used to be a population of quacks offering 'cheap, discrete' abortions with veterinary tools they somehow got hold of, & similar

asciilifeform: whipping also works.

asciilifeform: bonus re teflontape -- teflon + Al reaction -- explosion and HF. this requires strictly pressure to initiate. pressure that is sometimes reached in a water pipe...

asciilifeform: holyfuck.

asciilifeform: i recently saw a truck painted with ad, 'we are the plumber who will fix the pipe your husband 'fixed' '

asciilifeform: lol re c

asciilifeform: in old-time su, when auto aficionados all had access to a pit, they could

asciilifeform: but rather like bragging about changing oil in auto.

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: incidentally for some reason i remember kako bragging about his 'data diode' thing, apparently it was his crowning techno-achievement

asciilifeform: ( and toshiba is rotting in hell, who knows if toslink will be around in near future. and for some reason they use slow slew rate diode and it tops out at 1M/s )

asciilifeform: a trial with toslink is in the worx but omfg i have too few hands and infinite work

asciilifeform: it is not The Right Thing.

asciilifeform: and could fail if room gets too warm too cold etc

asciilifeform: bad thing because thing requires hour of manual fiddling

asciilifeform: and it ain't a 'cable too short' either -- i used a 4-metre fiber

asciilifeform: but currently i have nfi who -- if anyone -- makes a better one pcb-mounted visible-light one. that module is ubiquitous.

asciilifeform: btw that laser was a bit wonky, i hesitate to recommend it : it would overpower the receiver if the fiber were actually screwed in all the way 'to the hilt', and barf

asciilifeform: both may very well still make diff in a tactical setting.

asciilifeform: (i.e. made no diff, in a lab setting, whether power source was pc (mine is on isolated mains however) or batt )

asciilifeform: recall also http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/fibertest/fg_isol_sender.jpg + http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/fibertest/fg_isol_receiver.jpg gave similar null result for ~power~. ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( and revisiting http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/cagetest/2.jpg , for completeness, one coax is dc 5v , other -- ttl output )

asciilifeform: all it shows is that the thing did not ~obviously~ pick up voiceofamerica.

asciilifeform: correct.

asciilifeform: exactly same , as far as i can tell, as no box.

asciilifeform: btw i have 20GB or so out of that thing

asciilifeform: it shrinks ~80% at 80c

asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/cagetest/1.jpg << the material (in this case, clear, but comes in all types) curled around the ferrites in pic

asciilifeform: i used to make field-expedient photoisolators from diode+photocell+heatshrinkhose

asciilifeform: ( nao if i knew where i buried my serial-to-irda box from 1990s! )

asciilifeform: then yes.

asciilifeform: ideally you'd put a black hose around it.

asciilifeform: it's 'promiscuous' , vs qr gun

asciilifeform: ( moar than enough for, e.g., soft mips cpu, & similar )

asciilifeform: 1k LUTs.

asciilifeform: this is a 20bux board that gives fullspeed usb , lamps, ir i/o (why -- idk ) and various else.

asciilifeform: 'the lady goes'

asciilifeform: i since tested the j1forth thing on same board. builds, runs.

asciilifeform: https://blog.lse.epita.fr//articles/77-lsepc-intro.html << in other veryolds.

asciilifeform goes back to FFAism

asciilifeform: and buncha lights, and a pin header.

asciilifeform: has ftdi thing for usb i/o as well as programming.

asciilifeform: it isn't the only compat. devboard , by any means. but probably the smallest and most self-contained.

asciilifeform: maybe even cheaper elsewhere.

asciilifeform: http://www.semiconductorstore.com/cart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=57375&utm_source=GoogleShopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=Lattice%20Semiconductor&utm_campaign=ICE40HX1K-STICK-EVN&gclid=Cj0KCQjwtpDMBRC4ARIsADhz5O6lYGXDb4mfQa-6T-bZvt35DjOq1AJNVMLPxBN2i_K_lje_fekDtFoaAoUMEALw_wcB << 20.

asciilifeform: 25

asciilifeform: (carries own jtag-programmator along)

asciilifeform: *cables

asciilifeform: thumbdrive-shaped, no cabled needed

asciilifeform: 'icestick' is a notbad student devboard btw

asciilifeform: ( not a high bar, but probably enough to say now that next FUCKGOATS will NOT feature a xilinx no moar )

asciilifeform: examples/icestick/example.v BUILDS and programs and runs... blinkenlichten blink in the specified order.

asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/56j7x/?raw=true

asciilifeform: at some point will have to see re depython3ization.

asciilifeform: ( not even substantially slower than xilinx chain. though i have currently nfi re output quality in re path delays )

asciilifeform: synthesis appears to work.

asciilifeform: so can haz ice40!!!! ☟︎

asciilifeform: i did finally get http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1693606 going . had to edit makefile and ENABLE_TCL := 0 ☝︎

asciilifeform: meanwhile, ACHTUNG PANZERS!

asciilifeform: 'identity proofs (twitter, github, your website, etc.)' didjaknow. ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1693833 << the usual embrace&extinguish work. ☝︎

asciilifeform: heya mod6

asciilifeform: ohyea the one with 'chicago typewriter'.

asciilifeform: gekko << 'Скажите, заросли конопли, / ответь, пятнистый геккон, / За что двадцатая часть земли / Должна вдыхать эту вонь?' (tm)(r)(pelevin)

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and when pharaon ramses rules from anchorage, they will 'vote' ramses. beggars ain't agents.

asciilifeform: whossat?

asciilifeform: i suppose from humane pov they oughta be put out of their misery, but rockets cost money and i can't picture anyone will ever spare one for them.

asciilifeform: i saw transgenderfucked beggars, expelled from 'art school', on the pavement.

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: do you know even 1 name ?

asciilifeform: 2.7m of what.

asciilifeform: you can hear pipes laid in edison's life, groaning.