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ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mike_c ^^
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 12:48:59; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell williamdunne explain this difference between "1 btc = 1 btc" and "anyone and everyone being able to have a bitcoin wallet".
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 2 for mircea_popescu with note: bitcoin sage. pimp of all pimps.
menahem: !v assbot:menahem.rate.mircea_popescu.2:7cc82d0435c8ff1762d08246dbadfdf1fd432f6719194f70ecaa5bf6457e89e4
menahem: !rate mircea_popescu 2 bitcoin sage. pimp of all pimps.
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 06:08:42; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell menahem you really don't know how to bother girls.
menahem: mircea_popescu thanks for the vote of confidence.
mircea_popescu: curl: (35) error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure
davout: jurov_ you manage the mailing list amirite?
punkman: http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2015/04/bot_makes_2_4_million_reading_twitter_meet_the_guy_it_cost_a_fortune.html
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 05:17:59; mircea_popescu: williamdunne so in retrospect : "immutable, fungible, non-discriminatory, and trustless" is really redundant. fungible includes "non-discriminatory".
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 05:33:34; mircea_popescu: williamdunne "The cost of enforcement of contracts grows over time as an increasing number of loopholes are found - as described in an article by Mircea Popescu" you know you could ~link it~ o.O
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 04:35:18; mircea_popescu: before smartphones, it was not uncommon to stop two people in the street whose clocks were 30 minutes apart.
Naphex: mircea_popescu: https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/161.pdf for bitcoin related sidechans
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 05:08:43; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111214 << being specific here would be interesting.
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.menahem.1:ef600b5ecdbf4fb4fc6975db6a8a625a670ccde4c18d5e5462f354dbec68aadb
cazalla: mircea_popescu, ya the taps, hitting ya head on that shit ain't fun
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i guess so, figured you had the kavorka yourself but guess not :P
jayk: https://scontent-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10386752_582362298543805_2330135579441782816_n.jpg?oh=87b63f5732878beee41e6429ce8196b1&oe=55CF0734
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.jayk.1:486e17533db78ce8c35a9aed04ec6c2e015f4f145af1c95a3188b499c90d6515
cazalla: mircea_popescu, but did ya have ya bandana on with ya feet on the table?
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mircea_popescu: !gettrust Pierre_Rochard
mircea_popescu: mike_c i noticed sorting earlier. pretty cool!
mike_c: mircea_popescu: requested changes to wot site are live.
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 22:32:39; ben_vulpes: there's nothing more undervalued right now than cheap old blades.
trinque: mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110960 << quite possibru. << http://www.ebay.com/itm/RLX-System-600ex-Xeon-CPU-Blade-2-8GHz-x-2-1GB-60GB-HD-/170369036116?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27aac92f54 big time ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l wut? clock towers existed
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel once i go to jerusalem
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: are you ever going to post the Jerusalem follow-up to your Istanbul article?
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 22:32:39; ben_vulpes: there's nothing more undervalued right now than cheap old blades.
asciilifeform: !up gabriel_laddel
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the end, the amoeba get the voice.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: it is a mistake to describe perl as 'based on' anything in particular. it is soup, consisting of the entire contents of a crashed delivery van. soup reflective of what is to be found in the author's skullcase.
trinque: gabriel_laddel: sure, seems you need code to be data to do metaprogramming well
trinque: mircea_popescu: right, so we're talking about the difference between systems which try to be general solutions to (not sure how to articulate it) vs specific tools which live in a given niche?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's so deeply baked into the structure of the world, you'll never be free of it. << johnson noise, shot noise, etc. are intrinsic to electrical circuit. yet we have to sweat and build whole other box to get pc to cough up random bits.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... there must be a reason for this. << same reason eagle doesn't have jet with afterburner in his arse
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> that may be. i'm just pointing out that biology offers a very significant challenge to theoretical cs. << i must confess, that i am at a loss as to which aspects of meat we should like to replicate in machines: intransigence? toe fungus? pneumonia? schizophrenia? ☟︎
trinque: mircea_popescu: seems like systems where there are a variety of ways to solve problems accept that they don't know the "perfect" way, if there is one
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mircea_popescu: !gettrust assbot gabriel_laddel
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mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot gabriel_laddel
mircea_popescu: !up gabriel_laddel
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel sure. which was this ?
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: oh, btw thanks for your input on my document
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel this is a very minor point. the chief point, still standing, is that cunts still run on perl. there must be a reason for this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if we get the stochasticity of meat, we also need to have the wide functional state space of meat.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: basic idea, perhaps, is that systems designed 'step at a time' by 'practical types' without any clear line of reason - will converge to resemble meat.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel this is cells.
Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: they created PCAOB - para-govt auditor of auditors - to avoid beheadings and only chop off fingers/toes. Beheadings will have to come exogenously. For log, background on lehman accounting fraud: http://drillingthrough.com/lehman/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure the example you cited is immunological
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel trisomies are usually aborted. spina bifida usually not. etc.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel no, no, we're talking about the reproductive system itself.
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard from what i see (and from what i know of these systems) there's periodically going to be a beheading.
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard i suppose it's the next head on the chopping block after AA.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel how familiar with the process are you ? like, for instance, the simple (lol) ShouldAbort() function ?
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 02:51:20; mircea_popescu: what the fuck is deloitte even
asciilifeform: ea how far into the process you got or how much of an incomplete task was actually performed. in my view, serious programmers don't deal with tools that _force_ them to hope everything works.' -- herr naggum who else
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel perhaps you don't appreciate how deep perl goes, or how unaware perl-people are of their perl-ness.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel has it
asciilifeform: !up gabriel_laddel
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: concept alluded to was 'fits in head.' i suppose this is a good time and place to note that it can be accomplished in three basic ways: a) small system b) big head c) powerful hydraulic press
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this'd all benefit from a lot more documentation << which 'this'
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 22:06:38; asciilifeform: to paraphrase mircea_popescu article, if christ saves in java - let me go straight to hell.
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 23:32:46; pete_dushenski: williamdunne mebbe you could have scoopbot_revived post to a page on your site ?
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: In a couple of days could you make your RSS feed show all bitcoin related articles for an hour or so?
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 21:16:50; menahem: seeing as everyone is posting their blog love, i did write this today: http://chedr.ca/2015/04/your-emotions-are-irrelevant-and-youve-missed-the-point/ (brings up mircea_popescu 's discussion on RIPple with W3C)
mircea_popescu: !up PFate_
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 20:45:01; ben_vulpes: savvy?
decimation: Pierre_Rochard: regulatory agencies indeed
Pierre_Rochard: williamdunne: had a similar head against wall bug yesterday, in pgsql: to_timestamp(‘2014-2’, ‘YYYY-Q’), doesn’t work because the docs clearly state “quarter (ignored by to_date and to_timestamp)” but it was three hours of desperate refactoring before I actually read them. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.menahem.2:ff2b6568a2919406cdfcef2c2fbd6c6c89985e454a358859584b18a3b7613147
pete_dushenski: !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.williamdunne.1:bbe7dc99e44de364bb27d4745e33db2b80fc3d8da77a371c288223af85f3c58b
menahem: pete_dushenski maintenance contracts - no good ? i love selling them. :)
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OEz_e9C4KM
menahem: pete_dushenski def, ill try <pre> as per ben_vulpes reco. always a work in progress. :)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it also matters, for what. usually these things need 3-phase mains, cooling water, often - a handy dewar with ln2, maintenance contract, etc.
menahem: pete_dushenski ive got a good assistant now.. freed up some time. ;) and agreed, my bad on the >>, it's an email thread.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: creature in the photo is pet, not owner of instrument
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al ^^^ mega-inflationary-l0lz4tr0n
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 22:27:41; ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ;;later tell ben_vulpes http://imgur.com/a/xogco << back from this << oooh
williamdunne: pete_dushenski: 18
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 20:39:52; mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/572468782057013248/WtdCdJXG_400x400.jpeg << so who are teh people ?
williamdunne: pete_dushenski: Very welcome. Not too big of a job
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williamdunne: pete_dushenski: Sure, a #b-a library of sorts
Naphex: gabriel_laddel: can you tell me anything about it?
Naphex: gabriel_laddel: maybe other people wanna know and ask questions
Naphex: gabriel_laddel: maybe other people want to know too, i will check the link
williamdunne: pete_dushenski: I'll do that tomorrow/Monday
Naphex: gabriel_laddel: what is it?
Naphex: gabriel_laddel: hi o/ thanks for the links, what is Masamune? did you write it?
pete_dushenski: williamdunne mebbe you could have scoopbot_revived post to a page on your site ? ☟︎
pete_dushenski: in any event... just read your bitcoin treatise, ben_vulpes. sharp!
williamdunne: gabriel_laddel:
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mircea_popescu on the contrary! http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/24/narrated-video-of-the-poem-stop-all-the-clocks-again/#comment-16132
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: almost made the mistake of trying to catch the planes by that clock, but realized in time.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that clock i bought from the street spammer works about as well as ought to be expected. sometimes stops for 2,3,4,5+ hours - then runs... then, again...